A second high-profile Senator has slammed the “trigger” idea favored by Sen. Olympia Snowe and, according to published reports, the White House, saying that a bill without a real public option would have a hard time picking up his support. Appearing on Face The Nation, Sen. Russ Feingold joined Sen. Jay Rockefeller in opposing the trigger idea, calling it “an invitation to the insurance industry” to keep themselves in line for a couple years, only to find new ways to abuse the system thereafter. Feingold praised Sen. Harry Reid for moving toward putting a public option in the bill that would come to the Senate floor, and dismissed the suggestion by host Bob Schieffer that it would move the bill too far to the left, saying that liberals favor a single-payer solution and this represents a compromise. Faced with the question of whether he could vote for a reform bill that did not include the public option, Feingold said the following:
SCHIEFFER: But could you yourself vote for health care reform that did not include the public option if it came to that?
FEINGOLD: To me that would be a very serious gap and it would be a very strong reason not to support it. We need a public option. We need something that would cause some control over the abuses that have occurred in the insurance industry.
SCHIEFFER: Would we be better off with anything if it did not include a public option?
FEINGOLD: I, at this point I think we need to do something fundamental. When people start talking about having a trigger, that we might have a public option in two or three years, to me, that’s just an invitation to the insurance industry to manipulate the situation for a couple of years just so they can avoid the trigger, and so they can convince members of Congress to delay it again. We need to do something now. These costs are overwhelming people. The current system is actually a system of rationing through the insurance industry. We need to take action now.
Given the trajectory of the debate, with anonymous sources charging the White House with wanting to preserve the bipartisan nature of reform by including the trigger, Feingold’s trashing of that idea takes on more significance. With the 60-vote hurdle to break a Republican filibuster being demanded, it would only take two or three Democratic Senators (if Susan Collins can somehow be persuaded to join Snowe in support of a public option-less bill) opposing the bill from the left to block passage. Feingold is the kind of iconoclast who would be a likely candidate in that regard.
…video courtesy CBS:



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we are making phone calls today in CA to push the idea of NO Public Option, NO BILL.
these calls target dianne feinstein.
It was my impression that quite a few senators–including Boxer–are already holding that position.
Thanks for this, David. Notice Schieffer’s framing on who supports the public option: only the liberals. He shows he hasn’t read any polls showing strong support amount independents for a public option, and even pluralities in some Republican states — it’s just those crazy liberals.
Agree that if we have three good Senators for a “block” it would help our position. Did Rockefeller say anything to reinforce that idea?
I’m beginning to have a tiny glimmer of hope about the outcome on this issue.
What number are you calling? (I’m asking because it’s Sunday and it’s hard enough to get through to her on a week day.) Thnx.
Without a public option that enforces firm and long-lasting control over the insurance industry, what’s the point of health care “reform”?? If the only sector to truly benefit is the insurance industry, what’s the point?
There’s only one solution, and it has two permutations: either cut the insurance industry down to size and control it from now on, or (preferably, in my view) get rid of it once and for all and forever. All it has ever accomplished is to raise costs and reduce availability. Some legacy.
but I am seeing too much of this today.
@JoeNBC: sources confirm that we should expect the final #HCR bill to contain a trigger that creates a public option if goals aren’t met.
@DavidShuster Every indication Obama cares more about Senator Snowe than about the public option. Progressives infuriated.
@DavidShuster One wonders how all of those young Obama activists from ’08 are feeling today. Change you can believe in?
I am not trusting the White House, sadly. Politics over conviction.
Once again Feingold steps up to the plate. He has more integrity than 3/4 of the Senate combined. I must have been very gullible. I knew Obama was a politician. After all, you can’t get elected President and not be, but I did not think he would blatantly stab us in the back and out right lie to us about supporting a public health insurance plan. This is the kind of crap we came to expect from Bush. I only hope the Democratic Senators realize that their survival depends on the public option and that if a health bill doesn’t pass with a good one, their majority is over in 2010. As far as Obama is concerned, I believe his behavior is deceitful and indecent. Forget the 60 votes and pass healthcare with a simple majority. It would be justice, if Biden were forced to cast the deciding vote.
Re: Healthcare debate
Wouldn’t it have been nice if our congressional representatives had the same lengthy, convoluted, tedious, back-and-forth before invading Iraq or bailing out the big banks?
would it be too difficult for the TM to read the polling of Nate or Marcos? Or discounted because of being bloggers?
There are few better Villager water-carriers than Bob Schieffer. He is steeped in conventional wisdom and ascribes anything to the left of Dick Cheney as dangerous untested liberalism.
You rarely hear it mentioned that his brother was a Bush Ranger and an Ambassador appointee of W’s.
You’re frugal with your words, too, but, boy, are they powerful.
Good for Russ for reminding the Villagers that Public Option is the compromise, not any liberals’ preferred choice.
There is little (if any) historic precedent in this country for the government running something as lucrative as the health insurance industry completely out of business, which is why single-payer was off the table from the beginning. Hard enough in this era to get legislators to impose or enforce regulations on ANY big business.
If a public option passes it will only be under great and sustained public pressure. We also need to continue to watch closely because if passage looks imminent measures will be introduced with the intention of weakening the PO.
So Feingold, Burris, and Rockefeller are against a bill without a public option. It’d be nice to strengthen that block. I wonder how Sanders and Boxer would respond if they were asked the same question.
Straight from the horse’s
assAP:About freakin’ time — if more people (with a high profile) had been saying this from the beginning we might be much closer to at least getting the public option.
Can anyone really explain why Obama does seem to care more about Snowe than real health insurance reform? I just don’t understand it. Having one freakin’ Repub vote with you is NOT bipartisan, not even a fig leaf of bipartisanship. I just don’t get it.
his Lincoln complex seems to be intruding upon reality?
here is the call sheet and numbers that we are using.
we dont call DC or LA because the Feinstein numbers there DO NOT have answering machines.
We want the bill that comes out of the Senate to include a strong public insurance option. That’s what at least 52 Democratic Senators want, what most of the House and the House Speaker Pelosi want, what 67% of the American people want.
That is what I want. To get that, we need a nationwide public insurance option to be in the bill that is introduced in the Senate by Majority Leader Harry Reid.
What do we want? The strongest possible public insurance option available nationwide with no triggers, co-ops or delays.
When. In the bill, NOW. NOT as an amendment.
CALL: Senator Dianne Feinstein
(619) 231-9712 – SD
(559) 485-7430 – Fresno
(202) 224-3841 – DC
Tell her. “We need you to continue supporting a strong, nationwide public option. No triggers, co-ops or delays. We want you to announce that you will vote NO on any bill that lacks a public insurance option.”
I’m beginning to think health care reform was nothing more than a political calculation for Obama, that if Dems can pass a reform bill (any bill) it will help them in the midterms and in 2012. If his intentions had been altruistic he would not have been making closed door agreements with Big Pharma, etc. and he would have been advocating for a PO from the outset.
As for courting Snowe, it is to give the Blue Dogs cover and Rahm is their king. Obama knew that when he selected Rahm for COS, which provides some indication where his actual sympathies lie.
This is why I’ve voted for Senator Feingold twice for President.
I think I get it, and I’ve had it.
I was sooooo eager to get to the polls last year and vote for this guy. Never again. If a rethug wins in 2012 and it’s because of the state of Virginia and it’s because of my one vote, I still don’t care. I’ve simply had it with Democrats that aren’t Democrats. And Obama is just as full of shit as Bush was. Well, ok, maybe not quite that much. Close though.
The public option is the “plan B.” Military men understand this when presenting options to their civilian bosses. “Plan A is we surrender. Plan C is we nuke the shit out of them. Plan B is really the plan.” Not giving the single payer option any oxygen whatsoever in the beginning allows the pundit runts to frame the public option as the DFH plan when clearly it is not.
Book Salon up at the Mothership with Steve Fox’s Marijuana Is Safer: So Why Are We Driving People to Drink hosted by John Holowach
Dude, have you read this? Not that I TRUST Sci Fi Further Than I Could Throw Her
What make you, or Teddy P or any other’s about this?
BBBBBbuttttttt, 12 dimension man!
“Make Me Do It!”
There’s enough ammo in both to think BO and WH has leveraged Senate (always contentious and in support of the corporate overlords, always) to come to this place where the masses and their anger (progs/blogosphere) have actually FORCED The Senate to come to Heysoos!
And by playing middle of the road, both sides of the road, and holding the cards close, Obama/Rhama have forced Senate into a corner, for their elected lives.
Course, the same tea leaf readings say Obama sold us out long ago, and was a corporate shill.
I DEFY anyone to prove either, one way or another, before this is all done.
FISA, and EFCA, and DOMA, DADT, and even the failed (failed us masses and jobs creation) econ giveaways MIGHT be ‘splained away over time . . .
So, evil corporate fuedalist overlord supporter, or 12th dimension chess player for the masses?
Story’s not over hosses and hossettes.
WE sit and wait, with baited breath.
THEN we bite, if we don’t like what we got.
It ain’t over. Yet. Nor is it easily measured or debated.
Very, very deep politics. Impossible to read.
Just keep the pressure on!!! Keep the pressure on!!!
THAT’S how we get what we want.
Dear Prez Obama, enable REAL HC reform or yer outta here and so are the dems.
THAT’S our card, that’s our ace, that’s our leverage, over it all.
And Kudo’s To Mz. Hamsher, and all the FDL folks and affiliates for running this dog down and keeping it fed and healthy to run some more.
WE PROG ON!!!!
(Norske, lil help here, ok?) *G*
Well put hoss, yer on it like Sugar Hill Gang on Apache.
Public option or not, the most outrageous portion of the bill is the mandate. Why should anyone be forced to purchase an insurance policy from these shysters? What about the people who wish to deal directly with their health care providers, rather than have an insurance company come between themselves and their doctor? Government as enforcer for the insurance industry = fascism.
not to mention the fact that these changes aren’t going to be implemented for years. If you have a trigger then it delays real change for even longer. As of now people who need it most will have to wait until 2014. http://cli.gs/BMABst