Comments on: Feingold: No Public Option “A Very Strong Reason Not To Support” A Health Care Bill

By: stephhunter

stephhunter — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:01:15 +0000

not to mention the fact that these changes aren’t going to be implemented for years. If you have a trigger then it delays real change for even longer. As of now people who need it most will have to wait until 2014. http://cli.gs/BMABst

By: LKN2

LKN2 — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:01:58 +0000

Public option or not, the most outrageous portion of the bill is the mandate. Why should anyone be forced to purchase an insurance policy from these shysters? What about the people who wish to deal directly with their health care providers, rather than have an insurance company come between themselves and their doctor? Government as enforcer for the insurance industry = fascism.

By: Larue

Larue — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:29:42 +0000

Well put hoss, yer on it like Sugar Hill Gang on Apache.

By: Larue

Larue — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:13:30 +0000

BBBBBbuttttttt, 12 dimension man!

“Make Me Do It!”

There’s enough ammo in both to think BO and WH has leveraged Senate (always contentious and in support of the corporate overlords, always) to come to this place where the masses and their anger (progs/blogosphere) have actually FORCED The Senate to come to Heysoos!

And by playing middle of the road, both sides of the road, and holding the cards close, Obama/Rhama have forced Senate into a corner, for their elected lives.

Course, the same tea leaf readings say Obama sold us out long ago, and was a corporate shill.

I DEFY anyone to prove either, one way or another, before this is all done.

FISA, and EFCA, and DOMA, DADT, and even the failed (failed us masses and jobs creation) econ giveaways MIGHT be ‘splained away over time . . .

So, evil corporate fuedalist overlord supporter, or 12th dimension chess player for the masses?

Story’s not over hosses and hossettes.

WE sit and wait, with baited breath.

THEN we bite, if we don’t like what we got.

It ain’t over. Yet. Nor is it easily measured or debated.

Very, very deep politics. Impossible to read.

Just keep the pressure on!!! Keep the pressure on!!!

THAT’S how we get what we want.

Dear Prez Obama, enable REAL HC reform or yer outta here and so are the dems.

THAT’S our card, that’s our ace, that’s our leverage, over it all.

And Kudo’s To Mz. Hamsher, and all the FDL folks and affiliates for running this dog down and keeping it fed and healthy to run some more.

WE PROG ON!!!!

(Norske, lil help here, ok?) *G*

By: Larue

Larue — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:04:14 +0000

Dude, have you read this? Not that I TRUST Sci Fi Further Than I Could Throw Her What make you, or Teddy P or any other's about this?

By: dakine01

dakine01 — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:03:28 +0000

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By: Oilfieldguy

Oilfieldguy — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:56:29 +0000

The public option is the “plan B.” Military men understand this when presenting options to their civilian bosses. “Plan A is we surrender. Plan C is we nuke the shit out of them. Plan B is really the plan.” Not giving the single payer option any oxygen whatsoever in the beginning allows the pundit runts to frame the public option as the DFH plan when clearly it is not.

By: OldFatGuy

OldFatGuy — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:49:15 +0000

I think I get it, and I’ve had it.

I was sooooo eager to get to the polls last year and vote for this guy. Never again. If a rethug wins in 2012 and it’s because of the state of Virginia and it’s because of my one vote, I still don’t care. I’ve simply had it with Democrats that aren’t Democrats. And Obama is just as full of shit as Bush was. Well, ok, maybe not quite that much. Close though.

By: Nathan Aschbacher

Nathan Aschbacher — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:35:00 +0000

This is why I’ve voted for Senator Feingold twice for President.

By: ratfood

ratfood — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:32:04 +0000

I’m beginning to think health care reform was nothing more than a political calculation for Obama, that if Dems can pass a reform bill (any bill) it will help them in the midterms and in 2012. If his intentions had been altruistic he would not have been making closed door agreements with Big Pharma, etc. and he would have been advocating for a PO from the outset.

As for courting Snowe, it is to give the Blue Dogs cover and Rahm is their king. Obama knew that when he selected Rahm for COS, which provides some indication where his actual sympathies lie.