If you wanna be mad at somebody be mad at Obama for steering this thing from day one and for not wanting to take on the Insurance Industry, which he did have the Political Capital to do actually.

There are still a few tricks we can use to get more people covered and to give power to the States to do Single Payer. If your State is not Progressive enough to have a bill ready to rock as we do in California (for the 3rd time), then I don’t know what to say.

Let’s put in a back door to Single Payer.

He sounds more confident than I am.

Yes, David. That pretty much speaks for all of us here. Thank you for your analysis, and for this whole new series for FDL. It’s wonderful.

What would Brown accomplish by claiming flat-out disaster as the only possible outcome, regardless of any efforts on his part, or from anyone else?

KingSlayer @ 10:

I was not born in OH. I’ve only lived 38 years of my adult life in OH.
If that’s not enough time to know tit from tat, I can’t change it at this point. What’s your point?

tropicgirl @ 12 & GDC707 @ 17:

C’mon. spit it out. tell us how you really feel. Oh, and what do you request for dessert after the total system collapse you apparently desire?

rafflaw @ 19:

Thank you for sane discourse. I prefer that to the total breakdown apparently desired by a distressing number of politicians on the right, those in our pockets, and many long overdue for retirement from self-serving pretense at governance.

Earlier today on MSNBC, Brown said that a few “dissenters” won’t stop the forward motion on health care reform. He said that he and Tom Harkin count 55 votes for the public option and that the five others in the Democratic caucus won’t join a Republican filibuster.

Or what? The other Senators will shun them? They have it in their heads that they can block anything they don’t like at the last moment. What are the consequences if they do vote against closure at the end, and the vote comes out 55-45? It seems we’ve already made all the concessions we can and still come out with a bill that can pass.

I missed what Sen. Snowe said today on MSNBC, and it sure looked as if she was giving a pretty full explanation of her rationale. Since I was on the phone on a business call, I couldn’t hear what she said. Anybody have any suggestions how I can get that interview back? I sure would like to have some understanding of what her thinking is that has her convinced the public option is such a bad thing.

ummm, because he’s Rahm?

I only speak English – is there any other language into which “Rahm” translates into “evil, incompetent, morally-vacant vessel”?

On the Ed show, he just called Pelosi’s bill “a watered-down piece of garbage written of republican toilet paper”.

works for me.

How could Rahm criticize them, but not “Short Ride” Lieberman?

They should pass a bill which outlaws denial of care based on pre-existing conditions, and start over on everything else.

(BTW, is BHO still promising that we’ll all have the option of choosing the coverage that members of Congress have?)

This thing is TOO BIG TO NOT FAIL. Too stuffed with PORK for the insurance companies and a PISS POOR EXCUSE FOR HEALTH CARE REFORM.

Everyone in the world knows single payer is the only thing that will work. Even Pakistan has universal care for gods sake. More than the soldiers that are killed supposedly for their cause. Lets give THEM more tax money and screw the American family again and again.

Take your puffed up attitude and wait till we see the mess that you all wrote.

As soon as your majority is gone, it will all be reversed. It should FAIL now and we should start over.

I’m tired of being played by the Obama Jack a s s Team. Including Reid, Pelosi, Frank, Dodd, Shumer, Sherrod, Levin, Feinstein, and all the freaks in Washington. I’m done. Have a good election.

And if Obama would spend more time telling the truth and doing the right thing, he wouldn’t have to be wallowing in the pathetic contaminated political toilet bowl he spends most of his time in, losing elections for people.

This is downright shameful.