Comments on: The Backdoor Rate-Setting Effort On The Public Option http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/02/the-backdoor-rate-setting-effort-on-the-public-option/ Sat, 18 Feb 2012 02:34:58 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: David Dayen http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/02/the-backdoor-rate-setting-effort-on-the-public-option/#comment-2192 David Dayen Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:41:48 +0000 http://news.firedoglake.com/?p=608#comment-2192 Good points all around. Good points all around.

]]> By: selise http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/02/the-backdoor-rate-setting-effort-on-the-public-option/#comment-2190 selise Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:26:07 +0000 http://news.firedoglake.com/?p=608#comment-2190 <blockquote>Even 6 million subscribers, the CBO estimate (which I think is low), is as big as all large insurers.</blockquote> 1. there will be 0 to begin with, not 6 million. 2. not spread over the whole country. what will matter is the number of subscribers that can be realistically delivered locally to each provider (or provider network). if i'm a provider in vt, it doesn't matter to me that the po has a million subscribers in ca. what matters is how many there are in my area. <blockquote>Plus, I don’t think it’s deniable that the government purchaser will be seen by providers as parts of a whole.</blockquote> good point. i will have to give this some thought. thanks.

Even 6 million subscribers, the CBO estimate (which I think is low), is as big as all large insurers.

1. there will be 0 to begin with, not 6 million.

2. not spread over the whole country. what will matter is the number of subscribers that can be realistically delivered locally to each provider (or provider network). if i’m a provider in vt, it doesn’t matter to me that the po has a million subscribers in ca. what matters is how many there are in my area.

Plus, I don’t think it’s deniable that the government purchaser will be seen by providers as parts of a whole.

good point. i will have to give this some thought. thanks.

]]> By: David Dayen http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/02/the-backdoor-rate-setting-effort-on-the-public-option/#comment-2189 David Dayen Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:16:38 +0000 http://news.firedoglake.com/?p=608#comment-2189 Even 6 million subscribers, the CBO estimate (which I think is low), is as big as all large insurers. Plus, I don't think it's deniable that the government purchaser will be seen by providers as parts of a whole. Even 6 million subscribers, the CBO estimate (which I think is low), is as big as all large insurers. Plus, I don’t think it’s deniable that the government purchaser will be seen by providers as parts of a whole.

]]> By: selise http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/02/the-backdoor-rate-setting-effort-on-the-public-option/#comment-2187 selise Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:04:50 +0000 http://news.firedoglake.com/?p=608#comment-2187 unless the public option can deliver a large customer base (as medicare does), why would providers accept the lower medicare rates? unless the public option can deliver a large customer base (as medicare does), why would providers accept the lower medicare rates?

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