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	<title>Comments on: Two More Health Care Supporters In Congress Means The Death Of Health Care Reform</title>
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		<title>By: cregan</title>
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		<dc:creator>cregan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this from kos at the Daily Kos for his list of lessons learned.

   1.  If you abandon Democratic principles in a bid for unnecessary &quot;bipartisanship&quot;, you will lose votes.

   2. If you water down reform in favor of Blue Dogs and their corporate benefactors, you will lose votes.

   3. If you forget why you were elected -- health care, financial services, energy policy and immigration reform -- you will lose votes.

I hope Democrats stick to these three rules. I really, really do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this from kos at the Daily Kos for his list of lessons learned.</p>
<p>   1.  If you abandon Democratic principles in a bid for unnecessary &#8220;bipartisanship&#8221;, you will lose votes.</p>
<p>   2. If you water down reform in favor of Blue Dogs and their corporate benefactors, you will lose votes.</p>
<p>   3. If you forget why you were elected &#8212; health care, financial services, energy policy and immigration reform &#8212; you will lose votes.</p>
<p>I hope Democrats stick to these three rules. I really, really do.</p>
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		<title>By: djfourmoney</title>
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		<dc:creator>djfourmoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) I agree

 2) The Right doesn&#039;t understand what they are doing and seem to think if they move more toward FAR Right, that somehow will get them more seats. Maybe in traditionally Republican Districts but not in most races and it will make the them even smaller.

 What stinks is that people like Nelson will look like liberals when they aren&#039;t and keep their seats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) I agree</p>
<p> 2) The Right doesn&#8217;t understand what they are doing and seem to think if they move more toward FAR Right, that somehow will get them more seats. Maybe in traditionally Republican Districts but not in most races and it will make the them even smaller.</p>
<p> What stinks is that people like Nelson will look like liberals when they aren&#8217;t and keep their seats.</p>
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		<title>By: btweenmanwoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>btweenmanwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Number One: Nearly ALL the Blue Dogs are suspect in their voting records and rhetoric as they are merely corporatists. These are the same people who say disappearing jobs can never return.

Number Two: Every one of them who are up to bat this election cycle will likely lose unless the Republicans continue their maniacal march into conservative He!! Good Riddance. May the door hit you in the arse on the way out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Number One: Nearly ALL the Blue Dogs are suspect in their voting records and rhetoric as they are merely corporatists. These are the same people who say disappearing jobs can never return.</p>
<p>Number Two: Every one of them who are up to bat this election cycle will likely lose unless the Republicans continue their maniacal march into conservative He!! Good Riddance. May the door hit you in the arse on the way out.</p>
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		<title>By: cbsunglass</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbsunglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media has their collective villager heads in the dark opening of their butts about the implications of the 2009 elections.  I just heard Chris Mathews say that the Virginia Governor&#039;s race results should strike fear into the hearts of &quot;moderate&quot; Democrats and move them toward opposing the PO and Health Care Reform.  Why?  Because Deeds, who opposed the PO and other issues supported by progressives, like environmental regulations, lost by nearly 20 points!  Hopefully people like Blanche Lincoln and Ben Nelson will realize that they will meet the same fate as Deeds if they try to act even more like Republicans and vote against the PO.  I&#039;m not sure they are wise enough to read the handwriting on the wall, but I know they can&#039;t win their states if the base doesn&#039;t show up at the polls.  This is a point that needs to be driven home to the Blue Dogs everyday, and perhaps to President spare change himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media has their collective villager heads in the dark opening of their butts about the implications of the 2009 elections.  I just heard Chris Mathews say that the Virginia Governor&#8217;s race results should strike fear into the hearts of &#8220;moderate&#8221; Democrats and move them toward opposing the PO and Health Care Reform.  Why?  Because Deeds, who opposed the PO and other issues supported by progressives, like environmental regulations, lost by nearly 20 points!  Hopefully people like Blanche Lincoln and Ben Nelson will realize that they will meet the same fate as Deeds if they try to act even more like Republicans and vote against the PO.  I&#8217;m not sure they are wise enough to read the handwriting on the wall, but I know they can&#8217;t win their states if the base doesn&#8217;t show up at the polls.  This is a point that needs to be driven home to the Blue Dogs everyday, and perhaps to President spare change himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somone stupid said last night on MSNBC that the entire Virginia and New Jersey delegations would now be voting against the health care reform bill.  Not sure who that was, at racist Pat Buchanan&#039;s face appeared next, so I clicked off the teevee.

But when the final vote happens, I will be interested to examine that hypothesis.  I predict not a single vote in either state changes.  

Both Democratic House candidates ran on support of Obama&#039;s health care plan.  Both were elected, in historically GOP districts.  Democrats swept the House races yesterday.  Nancy has two more votes in her caucus, which means health care opponents need two more votes to stop it.

The train accelerated down the tracks yesterday, although TradMed argues that health care reform was derailed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somone stupid said last night on MSNBC that the entire Virginia and New Jersey delegations would now be voting against the health care reform bill.  Not sure who that was, at racist Pat Buchanan&#8217;s face appeared next, so I clicked off the teevee.</p>
<p>But when the final vote happens, I will be interested to examine that hypothesis.  I predict not a single vote in either state changes.  </p>
<p>Both Democratic House candidates ran on support of Obama&#8217;s health care plan.  Both were elected, in historically GOP districts.  Democrats swept the House races yesterday.  Nancy has two more votes in her caucus, which means health care opponents need two more votes to stop it.</p>
<p>The train accelerated down the tracks yesterday, although TradMed argues that health care reform was derailed.</p>
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