The CBO did a preliminary estimate of the Republican amendment to the House health care bill. There are now hard numbers to compare between the Democratic and Republican notions for health care.
Coverage:
Democrats – 36 million more covered by 2019, 96% of US covered
Republicans – 3 million more covered by 2019, 83% of US covered
That’s pathetic. Because the population is expected to grow over time, under the Republican health care plan there would be 2 million MORE Americans uninsured in 2019 than there are today, according to the CBO (50 million today, 52 million in 2019). But let’s look at cost:
Democrats – $104 billion in deficit reduction by 2019
Republicans – $68 billion in deficit reduction by 2019
The “fiscal conservatives” reduce the deficit LESS than the Democrats in the budget window, under their plan. And in the large-group market, where 80% of Americans get their private insurance, there would be a 0-3% reduction in the cost of their premiums; in other words, almost nothing (although that’s a preliminary figure that CBO doesn’t stand behind very aggressively).
Ezra Klein notes:
The Democratic bill, in other words, covers 12 times as many people and saves $36 billion more than the Republican plan. And amazingly, the Democratic bill has already been through three committees and a merger process. It’s already been shown to interest groups and advocacy organizations and industry stakeholders. It’s already made its compromises with reality. It’s already been through the legislative sausage grinder. And yet it saves more money and covers more people than the blank-slate alternative proposed by John Boehner and the House Republicans. The Democrats, constrained by reality, produced a far better plan than Boehner, who was constrained solely by his political imagination and legislative skill.
Watch the Republicans now argue that the CBO estimates don’t matter and that they aren’t comprehensive in their analysis. After eight months of hyping every draft the CBO sent out on the Democratic plan.
UPDATE: Since the amendment could never pass in a million years, I don’t think it’s worth it to cut an ad about it, but Americans United For Change did. A snarky blog post seems about the right level of attention, IMO.
UPDATE II: Jon Cohn notes that the GOP plan actually shifts the burden of payment from the healthy to the sick:
Many individuals and families would experience changes in premiums that differed from the changes in average premiums in their insurance market. As explained below, some provisions of the legislation would tend to decrease the premiums paid by all insurance enrollees, while other provisions would tend to increase the premiums paid by less healthy enrollees or would tend to increase the premiums paid by enrollees in some states relative to enrollees in other states. As a result, some individuals and families within each market would see reductions in premiums that would be larger or smaller than the estimated average reductions, and some people would see increases. [Emphasis mine]
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Republican plan endorses Grayson’s analysis. “Don’t get sick – If you get sick, die quickly”
Why does the term “worthless as tits on a boar hog” come to mind
Finally, they Stand and Deliver, or maybe notsomuch.
I wonder if Boner’s insurance would pay for cosmetic surgery so he would no longer look like a Dr. Suess character.
“Health Insurance Profits Protection Act”…hehehehe. Spot on!
Yet another Underpants Gnome proposal from the GOP. Quelle surprise!
The Democratic bill is a steaming pile of SHIT also.
Well, yes. Yes it is.
Shorter Republican message. If you are sick it’s your fault, just like it’s your fault you’re poor. Live with it.
Or die from it.
Good Morning David and Firedogs
I was just skimming it over at TPM – would love for the wonkier among us to take a peek at the PDF – Boeher et al incorporated Eshoo’s giveaway to Bio PHRma verbatim - was trying to see if CBO took a crack at it, but I’m not conversant in bureaucratese
Aren’t the republicans embarrassed to put out crap like this? How can they possibly let each other do it?
Reading this post felt just like the day I quit once and for all reading dead tree newspapers. Once we are reduced to defending this nasty excuse for A Dem health bill… all is lost.
Absolutely correct. But progressives should be focused less on the public option and more on the mandate. This equals the most regressive tax in our nation’s history. Is this the direction we want to take our tax system? To force people to pay up to 11% of their income for health insurance is an attack on the poor and middle class (ignore the subsidies, which will come and go according to political will). The wealthy will in many cases pay only a fraction of 1% of their income. It would be more progressive to tax everyone according to income, then give everyone a voucher equal to the lowest cost health plan, if we are to keep our present, disfunctional private system.
I am thinking the republicks have no shame. I doubt there is anything under the sun they could be embarrassed about.
ezra is, respectfully, full of shit.
the cost of reform is NOT the fed deficit numbers. that is probably the least important and most misleading cost number one could quote.
what matters is the total cost — total nation health expenditures — and how that total cost breaks down to costs to households (at various income levels), costs to states and local govs and cost to employers.
our national “discussion” on healthcare / health insurance reform makes my head hurt. not enough advil in the whole world……
(((Eureka Springs)))
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Which is of course less than could be saved, by the govt. and by people, if the limit was shorter and the evergreening possibility eliminated.
Huh, I feel the EXACT same way about our national “discussion” of climate change, finance reform, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the war on terrorism, our Israeli policy, etc. etc.
My. Head. Always. Hurts.
Since much of the GOP base is older people, do they really want them to die? Doesn’t sound very smart to me.
dday – do you ever sleep? Thanks for all the great posts.
Spencer Ackerman has a fresh cross-post ready: “So. Was Suppressing Goldstone Worth It?”
LOL. LOL. and amen. if i had any extra cash i’d be either investing in ibuprofen manufacturing or creating a massive stock of the stuff in my basement.
thank you! you are the shizz
That stuff can kill you.
The ibuprofen or the stuff in her basement?
Ibuprofen which she would store in the basement.
Any ability to feel shame or embarassment disqualifies that person from being a Republic.
lol, yep. Any ability to feel anything other than raw outrage probably disqualifies a person from being a Republic.
Reading. Is. Fundamental.
Don’t know how I mis-interpreted that originally. Reading it again it’s pretty clear. Oh well, like I said, my head always hurts. That’s my excuse. *g*
You’re just tired from your campaign. :)
Damn! I was going to say the exact same thing. Only come to find the very first comment was that as well. Anyway, good point!
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Good One,
I never thought of it, but he does look like an alcoholic resident of Whoville! I wonder what kind of Suessian jingle could be generated for Boner-who?
But if they gave you affordable healthcare, Sen. Hatch tells us, then you’d be grateful and vote for them, and they don’t want that.
Erm, hang on…
It’s their staff and lobbyist cadre that they let do it…keeps their nose clean, so to speak.
“…donating huge sums of money to Crooked Politicians…”
and just where does we think this here ‘Huge Sums’ comes from? Look to your left, look to your right, look in the mirror…that’s who. You.
Tomorrow’s lesson “Who’s Crooked? Show me the list.” Recommended reading list: lieberman $12.6M, mcconnell $7.8M, baucus $7.7M, cornyn $6.7M, kyl $5.6M, grassley $5.4M, ensign $5.2M, conrad $5.1M, cantor $4.9M, nelson $4.9M, burr $4.8M, boehner $4.4M, hatch $4.4M, lincoln $4.1M, vitter $3.9M, carper $3.6M (hattip NAVDOC3rdMAR)
put a checkmark by any who rep for you…