Jim McGovern’s statement in the Rules Committee session on health care should be echoed by every Democrat in Washington. He rebuts a number of points:
• Republicans have been whining about how there’s been no committee hearings on this bill, which is nonsense. They’re getting off on a technicality, as the House leadership has blended the three bills numbered HR 3200 into HR 3962. In actuality, the relevant committees held hundreds of hearings and markups, and practically all of that work is featured in the bill. By contrast, the Medicare Part D process featured 1 (one) hearing.
• He looks at the Republican health care bill as it is, and uses the CBO analysis which destroyed it yesterday. He notes that “The Democratic bill covers 12 times as many people, and saves $30 billion more” to the deficit. That’s pretty simple.
• He notes that the Republicans dealt with health care when they were in power by saying “Take two tax breaks and call me in the morning.”
• He directly takes on the health care bill being compared to terrorism – and denounced it – with Virginia Foxx (who made the statement) in the room. When Foxx makes a separate point that Medicaid patients visit the emergency room at higher rates than the uninsured, McGovern snapped, “I thank the gentlelady for making the case for keeping more people uninsured. I don’t agree with it.”
It would be nice if more Democrats were armed with the information that Rep. McGovern has, to knock down this nonsense and fight the smears.
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the Grayson effect ?
Yeah, have some of the Dems found a Vi*gr* for spines?
jim mcgovern is my rep and in general i think he has done a pretty good job of representing us.
unfortunately this is not one of those cases. he had a conference call town hall on this issue wednesday night, and you read my notes (and my conversation with pow wow and ralphon about it) on this thread:
http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/04/that-strange-biofuels-rider-in-the-house-managers-amendment/#comment-2669
Sounds the other way around to me. I keep hearing how Congressional Democrats are “worried” about supporting this bill after Tuesday’s elections. Tuesday’s elections were first of all, not as bad as CW has it (The Democrats INCREASED THEIR MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE), and secondly, as far as New Jersey and Virginia are concerned, were the result of poor candidates and a lack of support from the base, not a repudiation of Democratic policies. But of course, when the right wing owns the media the “word” throughout all the land is drawing the wrong conclusion, I guess it’s hard to blame an average Joe for seeing it that way too.
Wow, more of this please.
Need to stop the lies.
There’s the bottom line. And didn’t one of the losing gubernatorial candidates say he would opt out of the Public Option? And that guy lost!
That’s the lesson that needs to be taken from Tuesday.
But I’m preaching to the choir here.
yes, i agree. but that’s no excuse for jim to tell a few whoppers himself.
Your are such a tough cookie.
Do you ever smile? Even a little?
If there are mandates to buy for profit insurance in the final bill the Dems are going to be in big trouble.IMHO
I’m afraid you’re right – though improving the Public Option would help a great deal.
How about strengthening the public option and removing the mandates? Not gonna happen, but I think it would be a politically better move for Democrats.
I’m afraid what we’re going to get is something that’s both politically stupid AND bad for the country.
Cheers for his smacking Virginia Foxx.
Yep, she creeps me out. She was right there yesterday at the rally. I could be mean, and say more, but I won’t. Shudders.
selise, you know enough about politics to know an honest person couldn’t even get elected to the school board. Politicians lie– they have to.
Go ahead. Mike Stark has a video of her playing mafia chief with a poster board trying to hide from his camera.
The health insurance mandate is simply unprecedented in our nation’s history. If Congress wants us to have health insurance provided by private industry, they should tax us for it and provide everyone with an insurance voucher. But that would mean the wealthy would pay more. Under the mandate, the poor and the middle class get the tax increase.
It’s good to see this happening more and more. Stephen Israel called out Bachmann and Cantor on the Tea Party posters. It’s going to take time, but by continuing to hammer them every time the thugs stick their heads up, the Dems will eventually alter the public image they constructed around the myth of Saint Ronnie. What I am looking forward to is the day when a Democrat turns to a Republican and says ‘there you go again.’ It’s going to happen.
What a fine-looking fellow.
Bet he knows what I do and more.
Sorry. He’s a piece of shit.
I don’t care. Tear it all down. The House. The Senate.
Let’s have a fucking revolution.
Sit back and enjoy your country’s destruction.
I say, revolution.
Would you, if you were a grandchild of hers, eat dinner at her house? I’ve been watching way too much of her stuff on CSpan.
She just is the worst of all possiblilties for America. What a mean hearted, soul-less, cranky, wrong person. And, how does she get the exposure she does. She creeped me out even before she spoke out against Matthew Shephard when his mother was there. For a long time, the Viggie Fox’s like her have made me wonder why I am a Human. If I am one.
LOL. Perfect.
I’m wondering why it’s been so slow here in the comments.
Is everyone totally burned out?
I believe there are a lot of lurkers, ’cause when something Really Substantial comes out, there are a lot of comments and many from past commen commenters.
Wondering if I should join the lurkers? Wondering.
if we really believe that and are going to give our pols a pass, then we have no business criticizing the republicans when they lie.
personally, i’d rather call them all on their lies. if accepting lies, as opposed to knowing they are present, is a requirement for being an engaged citizen, i’m going to have to opt out. :(
it’s poisoned our political discourse and i think we should demand a change. my 2 cents.
lol! i must have a really twisted sense of humor because you’ve got me laughing so hard the cats are frightened. thanks!
Smile, hon. Most of it sucks, but we have to continue and to do that we have to enjoy a moment once in a while, yes?
PS…fuck me. Ha! I try. I really do.
(((demi)))
i may hate the lying bastards, but i love you and all honest and caring citizens (and non-citiizens) here.
The obligation to buy insurance if you are currently uninsured is a good thing because it reduces the cost of non-reimbursement to providers.
And if you purchase the public option through the exchange even better. For this group there is no obligation that you purchase insurance from a private company. In fact for everyone eligible to buy insurance through the exchange they should not send any businees to private insurance companies at all.
It is the 80% who get their insurance through their employer who are unjustly (and illegally?) being held captive. After all by what legal justification are their choices of where to buy insurance being abridged.
Your reasoning is a bit unclear there.
I sooo love it when you talk dirty. *g*
That’s the entire explanation right there. And the funny thing is, whenever someone points it out, the right, amplified by the entire media that they own, cry CLASS WARFARE!!!! (BTW, crying and whining seems to be what they do best when they’re not screaming with rage).
Yet I’ve got news for everyone. Class warfare has been going on now for three decades, and they’re the ones that brought it on and they’re the ones that keep fighting it and they’re the ones that are winning. We have no chance of winning if we don’t ever fight back.
obviously you haven’t learned the lurkers’ secret handshake and password. s
You noticed that I did qualify that by saying “some” didn’t you?