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	<title>Comments on: Jim McGovern Sets Them Up, Knocks Them Down In The Rules Committee</title>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/jim-mcgovern-sets-them-up-knocks-them-down-in-the-rules-committee/#comment-3003</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You noticed that I did qualify that by saying &quot;some&quot; didn&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You noticed that I did qualify that by saying &#8220;some&#8221; didn&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: VJBinCT</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/jim-mcgovern-sets-them-up-knocks-them-down-in-the-rules-committee/#comment-3002</link>
		<dc:creator>VJBinCT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obviously you haven&#039;t learned the lurkers&#039; secret handshake and password.  s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obviously you haven&#8217;t learned the lurkers&#8217; secret handshake and password.  s</p>
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		<title>By: OldFatGuy</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/jim-mcgovern-sets-them-up-knocks-them-down-in-the-rules-committee/#comment-2997</link>
		<dc:creator>OldFatGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the entire explanation right there.  And the funny thing is, whenever someone points it out, the right, amplified by the entire media that they own, cry CLASS WARFARE!!!! (BTW, crying and whining seems to be what they do best when they&#039;re not screaming with rage).  

Yet I&#039;ve got news for everyone.  Class warfare has been going on now for three decades, and they&#039;re the ones that brought it on and they&#039;re the ones that keep fighting it and they&#039;re the ones that are winning.  We have no chance of winning if we don&#039;t ever fight back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the entire explanation right there.  And the funny thing is, whenever someone points it out, the right, amplified by the entire media that they own, cry CLASS WARFARE!!!! (BTW, crying and whining seems to be what they do best when they&#8217;re not screaming with rage).  </p>
<p>Yet I&#8217;ve got news for everyone.  Class warfare has been going on now for three decades, and they&#8217;re the ones that brought it on and they&#8217;re the ones that keep fighting it and they&#8217;re the ones that are winning.  We have no chance of winning if we don&#8217;t ever fight back.</p>
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		<title>By: OldFatGuy</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/jim-mcgovern-sets-them-up-knocks-them-down-in-the-rules-committee/#comment-2996</link>
		<dc:creator>OldFatGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sooo love it when you talk dirty.  *g*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sooo love it when you talk dirty.  *g*</p>
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		<title>By: PJEvans</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/jim-mcgovern-sets-them-up-knocks-them-down-in-the-rules-committee/#comment-2995</link>
		<dc:creator>PJEvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your reasoning is a bit unclear there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your reasoning is a bit unclear there.</p>
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		<title>By: gamd521</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/jim-mcgovern-sets-them-up-knocks-them-down-in-the-rules-committee/#comment-2994</link>
		<dc:creator>gamd521</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The obligation to buy insurance if you are currently uninsured is a good thing because it reduces the cost of non-reimbursement to providers.

And if you purchase the public option through the exchange even better. For this group there is no obligation that you purchase insurance from a private company. In fact for everyone eligible to buy insurance through the exchange they should not send any businees to private insurance companies at all.

It is the 80% who get their insurance through their employer who are unjustly (and illegally?) being held captive. After all by what legal justification are their choices of where to buy insurance being abridged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The obligation to buy insurance if you are currently uninsured is a good thing because it reduces the cost of non-reimbursement to providers.</p>
<p>And if you purchase the public option through the exchange even better. For this group there is no obligation that you purchase insurance from a private company. In fact for everyone eligible to buy insurance through the exchange they should not send any businees to private insurance companies at all.</p>
<p>It is the 80% who get their insurance through their employer who are unjustly (and illegally?) being held captive. After all by what legal justification are their choices of where to buy insurance being abridged.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/jim-mcgovern-sets-them-up-knocks-them-down-in-the-rules-committee/#comment-2993</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(((demi)))

i may hate the lying bastards, but i love you and all honest and caring citizens (and non-citiizens) here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(((demi)))</p>
<p>i may hate the lying bastards, but i love you and all honest and caring citizens (and non-citiizens) here.</p>
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		<title>By: demi</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/jim-mcgovern-sets-them-up-knocks-them-down-in-the-rules-committee/#comment-2992</link>
		<dc:creator>demi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smile, hon.  Most of it sucks, but we have to continue and to do that we have to enjoy a moment once in a while, yes?
PS...fuck me.  Ha!  I try.  I really do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smile, hon.  Most of it sucks, but we have to continue and to do that we have to enjoy a moment once in a while, yes?<br />
PS&#8230;fuck me.  Ha!  I try.  I really do.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/jim-mcgovern-sets-them-up-knocks-them-down-in-the-rules-committee/#comment-2991</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol! i must have a really twisted sense of humor because you&#039;ve got me laughing so hard the cats are frightened. thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol! i must have a really twisted sense of humor because you&#8217;ve got me laughing so hard the cats are frightened. thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/jim-mcgovern-sets-them-up-knocks-them-down-in-the-rules-committee/#comment-2990</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if we really believe that and are going to give our pols a pass, then we have no business criticizing the republicans when they lie.

personally, i&#039;d rather call them all on their lies. if accepting lies, as opposed to knowing they are present, is a requirement for being an engaged citizen, i&#039;m going to have to opt out. :(

it&#039;s poisoned our political discourse and i think we should demand a change. my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if we really believe that and are going to give our pols a pass, then we have no business criticizing the republicans when they lie.</p>
<p>personally, i&#8217;d rather call them all on their lies. if accepting lies, as opposed to knowing they are present, is a requirement for being an engaged citizen, i&#8217;m going to have to opt out. :(</p>
<p>it&#8217;s poisoned our political discourse and i think we should demand a change. my 2 cents.</p>
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