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	<title>Comments on: Health Care Debate Continues</title>
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		<title>By: dcblogger</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/07/health-care-debate-continues/#comment-3173</link>
		<dc:creator>dcblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly true
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.openleft.com/showComment.do?commentId=195877&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this comment at Open Left&lt;/a&gt; sums up my feelings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly true<br />
<a href="http://www.openleft.com/showComment.do?commentId=195877" rel="nofollow">this comment at Open Left</a> sums up my feelings.</p>
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		<title>By: jawbone</title>
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		<dc:creator>jawbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then, again...this thing could turn out to be so bad, killing it might be just the best thing to happen.

Then, Medicare for All...with a robust private option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then, again&#8230;this thing could turn out to be so bad, killing it might be just the best thing to happen.</p>
<p>Then, Medicare for All&#8230;with a robust private option.</p>
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		<title>By: jawbone</title>
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		<dc:creator>jawbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, time for a national call to De-Register from the so-called Democratic Party.  

They think we have nowhere else to go, which may be true, but I can&#039;t see how I can support this bastardization of the Democratic Party values.

If these ostensible Dems had been in office in the 30&#039;s we&#039;d have none of the the great FDR programs; had they been in power in the 60&#039;s, we&#039;d have none of the Great Society programs. Soc Sec? Medicare? These wankers couldn&#039;t have imagined how to accomplish such things. They&#039;d have sold out to the nearing corporatist/classists they could find. Grrrrr.

(Weird--here on Libary Land PC, all the contractions have three back slashes instead of an apostrophe. Whassup with that? Well, only in preview....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, time for a national call to De-Register from the so-called Democratic Party.  </p>
<p>They think we have nowhere else to go, which may be true, but I can&#8217;t see how I can support this bastardization of the Democratic Party values.</p>
<p>If these ostensible Dems had been in office in the 30&#8242;s we&#8217;d have none of the the great FDR programs; had they been in power in the 60&#8242;s, we&#8217;d have none of the Great Society programs. Soc Sec? Medicare? These wankers couldn&#8217;t have imagined how to accomplish such things. They&#8217;d have sold out to the nearing corporatist/classists they could find. Grrrrr.</p>
<p>(Weird&#8211;here on Libary Land PC, all the contractions have three back slashes instead of an apostrophe. Whassup with that? Well, only in preview&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: bmull</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/07/health-care-debate-continues/#comment-3167</link>
		<dc:creator>bmull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s safe to assume that keeping Stupak&#039;s votes in play is another chapter in the Pelosi / White House &quot;maximum votes&quot; strategy.

Sad to say, but it gives leadership another thing they can use to keep the progressive caucus in line:

&quot;Give us your vote or we&#039;re going to keep the anti-abortion language to get Stupak&#039;s votes.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s safe to assume that keeping Stupak&#8217;s votes in play is another chapter in the Pelosi / White House &#8220;maximum votes&#8221; strategy.</p>
<p>Sad to say, but it gives leadership another thing they can use to keep the progressive caucus in line:</p>
<p>&#8220;Give us your vote or we&#8217;re going to keep the anti-abortion language to get Stupak&#8217;s votes.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ubetchaiam</title>
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		<dc:creator>ubetchaiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Without passage of this House bill, the Senate could delay reform indefinitely. &quot;; which they can do anyway unless they want to take the reconciliation approach. Cooper&#039;s statement is bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Without passage of this House bill, the Senate could delay reform indefinitely. &#8220;; which they can do anyway unless they want to take the reconciliation approach. Cooper&#8217;s statement is bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: bmull</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loretta Sanchez (CA-47) wins the award for talking out of both sides of her mouth. She wrote on HuffPo in support of the ROBUST public option, then voted against that--and now she&#039;s voting against the watered down bill too. Liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loretta Sanchez (CA-47) wins the award for talking out of both sides of her mouth. She wrote on HuffPo in support of the ROBUST public option, then voted against that&#8211;and now she&#8217;s voting against the watered down bill too. Liar.</p>
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		<title>By: cassiodorus</title>
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		<dc:creator>cassiodorus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If it’s that close, and Pelosi allows it to pass, you can only conclude that she wants it that way. Same for the President.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then this is a moment of truth...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If it’s that close, and Pelosi allows it to pass, you can only conclude that she wants it that way. Same for the President.</p></blockquote>
<p>Then this is a moment of truth&#8230;</p>
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