Comments on: Report: 34,000 More Troops For Afghanistan

By: jayt

jayt — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:53:52 +0000

Shit – I was gettin’ ready to take off on a rant. I yield.

But who was it who reecently said that the estimated number of Al Qaeda personnel in Afghanistan was estimated to be about 100?

I no longer give a fuck, so I will now tell what my son told me that the (rumored) plan for Afghanistan is. They are gonna form a line in the south, and move steadily to the north, clearing every goddamned cave along the way.

The anticipated U.S. casualty rate is huge.

By: Arbusto

Arbusto — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:34:40 +0000

Ouch!

By: opit

opit — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:20:42 +0000

Change we can believe in…never. You don’t change targeting of American bombing to Afghanistan and Pakistan from Iraq and expect any reaction except Mission Accomplished. And what would that be ? Somalia redux will do.
The PNAC statment of mission for American supremacy has been implemented for years. The only thing wrong with peoples’ perception of it is that they won’t see past the cover story to the ugliness beneath.
Look at Palestine and check back on the bulldozing of their wells and orchards while the country is partitioned by walls which UN complaints are as powerless to affect as their 18 years of bitching about the blockade of Cuba.
Iraq was a ‘liberation’ from U.S. installed Saddam. Uh-huh. Funny how the Occupation dragged on. Bremer’s Orders are still not common knowledge…nor the destruction of their seed stocks accumulated over thousands of years to be replaced by Monsanto’s patented destruction. Now the place is deprived of water by Turkey and stories of cancer in Fallujah are filtering out…from Gaza too BTW.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=42948
Agent Orange is passé. Now we have what was perfected in Hawaii…Depleted Uranium…in the Balkans too.
Scorched Earth has nothing to do with anything except creating a wasteland. That’s how Monopolies and Empire work…and war. You deprive the so-called ‘enemy’ of necessities of life…like water, food, shelter, sanitation, etc.
That’s why Iraq’s infrastructure was never fixed…despite the charges of billions budgeted for graft and corruption of ‘No Bid’ contracts.
Go back to the very beginning of Baghdad Burning. The U.S. attacks the poor and defenceless and promotes thievery. That’s a classic definition of brigandry…the so-called reason for central government.

Sanctions. George Bush Senior put those in place.
They killed children by the tens of thousands.
There is no higher education in Iraq and liitle medical help. Water treatment ? What’s that ? Troops refer to the place as ‘The Sewer’.
Hazardous waste is burned in open pits, causing a lung disease affecting all exposed.
But Afghanistan never was a ‘country’. There is very little central authority except under the Pashtun…who are demonized as supporting al Qaeda.
I could go on for a long time…and have. The best outline of serial assassination of government being carried out as the PNAC – oil money – said is the War Game which said destruction of Iraq had the potential to destabilize the region…something Dick Cheney outlined quite nicely when asked why George Bush Sr. did not invade Iraq for the Gulf War.
That’s on YouTube. The War Game is Post Saddam Iraq : Desert Crossing. Rumsfeld knew all about it.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB207/
I’ve been referring to that for years without much reaction. State was more sanguine.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB198/index.htm

By: Arbusto

Arbusto — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:26:19 +0000

It’s interesting how the JSoS/DoJ and theater commanders continue acting against the teaching and consequences of their actions by Sun Tzu. And the Administration, from its own ignorance or ~~cowardliness~~ pragmatism, buys into an unwinnable war/occupation with a weak tactical strategy and the only real conceivable, though unstated, objective is an oil pipe line some time in the future and sustaining the military/industrial complex.

Change we can believe in. When?

By: bmull

bmull — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:13:54 +0000

I hope this isn’t true. It would be a terrible mistake if it is.

By: ubetchaiam

ubetchaiam — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:08:44 +0000

“that it hopes will boost popular support for Karzai and erase the doubts about his legitimacy raised by his fraud-tainted re-election.” ; they can hope all they want but it just shows they won’t accept reality.
“The Afghan foreign ministry issued a statement rejecting such criticism, saying it breached “accepted international norms” and “violated respect for Afghanistan’s national sovereignty”.

And ‘they’ just don’t learn, meaning from both the Brit and Russian experiences; again I ask, how much longer and what does it take for us to withdraw ALL support for Obama until he changes his ways?