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	<title>Comments on: Jim Cooper Discusses Stupak Amendment Without Revealing He Voted For It</title>
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		<title>By: mstn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mstn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. As a TN-5 voter I&#039;ve been waiting to see this competitive, progressive primary challenger emerge. If you read local news you would know the Right and Cooper&#039;s MANY Independent/Moderate supporters have been pushing back hard. Cooper&#039;s reluctant yes is still a yes and I think TN-5 would do better to put some steam behind their existing Democrat (whose voted party-line on every major Democratic initiative this year - i.e. stimulus and cap-and-trade) or risk losing it to Repubs. And to those not from around here: You may be happy to do away with my Blue Dog Dem for a Repub if Dems maintain a majority in Congress, but I live here and I&#039;m not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. As a TN-5 voter I&#8217;ve been waiting to see this competitive, progressive primary challenger emerge. If you read local news you would know the Right and Cooper&#8217;s MANY Independent/Moderate supporters have been pushing back hard. Cooper&#8217;s reluctant yes is still a yes and I think TN-5 would do better to put some steam behind their existing Democrat (whose voted party-line on every major Democratic initiative this year &#8211; i.e. stimulus and cap-and-trade) or risk losing it to Repubs. And to those not from around here: You may be happy to do away with my Blue Dog Dem for a Repub if Dems maintain a majority in Congress, but I live here and I&#8217;m not.</p>
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		<title>By: saltyc</title>
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		<dc:creator>saltyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No it is not important for anyone to state clearly and constantly a lie.  I am in favor of abortion, it is a beneficial procedure to terminate a pregnancy that is not desired. I find it a much better alternative to many others, which would have to include forgoing sex, mandatory birth control, or creating a needy child. I am perfectly fine with abortion so long as it is the woman&#039;s intention to not be pregnant. You really have to bring up metaphysical beliefs such as a soul existing in what is a potential human being. No, I don&#039;t see abortion as sad and tragic always, and it will always be around so long as women want to stay fertile and have sex, and I really am OK with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No it is not important for anyone to state clearly and constantly a lie.  I am in favor of abortion, it is a beneficial procedure to terminate a pregnancy that is not desired. I find it a much better alternative to many others, which would have to include forgoing sex, mandatory birth control, or creating a needy child. I am perfectly fine with abortion so long as it is the woman&#8217;s intention to not be pregnant. You really have to bring up metaphysical beliefs such as a soul existing in what is a potential human being. No, I don&#8217;t see abortion as sad and tragic always, and it will always be around so long as women want to stay fertile and have sex, and I really am OK with that.</p>
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		<title>By: dangood</title>
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		<dc:creator>dangood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On abortion: it is important for all those who state their strong opinions to state clearly and constantly: no one, neither man or woman, left nor right, or anthing in between, is &quot;in favor&quot; of abortion. No matter what the circumstance abortion is always sad and tragic. This being so, how can a politician (think of it!) win an election advocating what no one is in favor of? Advocate alternatives and you have an argument; otherwise you are up against a stone wall. And ponder this: why is it that after eight years of right-wing rule under Bush does Wade Row still stand? Could it be that it is convenient for the right to have this issue out there? The best way to get rid of the issue is to come up with credible and human alternatives. Then no one will even care about Wade-Row.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On abortion: it is important for all those who state their strong opinions to state clearly and constantly: no one, neither man or woman, left nor right, or anthing in between, is &#8220;in favor&#8221; of abortion. No matter what the circumstance abortion is always sad and tragic. This being so, how can a politician (think of it!) win an election advocating what no one is in favor of? Advocate alternatives and you have an argument; otherwise you are up against a stone wall. And ponder this: why is it that after eight years of right-wing rule under Bush does Wade Row still stand? Could it be that it is convenient for the right to have this issue out there? The best way to get rid of the issue is to come up with credible and human alternatives. Then no one will even care about Wade-Row.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulaT</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulaT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t live in his district, so I&#039;ll never have the pleasure of voting his ass out.  But I would love to have the chance to donate to the campaign of a good progressive primary challenger. I highly doubt I&#039;m alone in that, or even in a small crowd.

I should add that I have my own issues with forcing people who object to pay through their taxes for abortions that I still have not completely worked out to a satisfactory conclusion in my mind. But this guy and the Stupak deal are outrageous. And I have to say that if taxpayers can be forced to pay for illegal wars they object to, it&#039;s a bit much to pick on women who are choosing something perfectly legal after more thought than Bush put into invading Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t live in his district, so I&#8217;ll never have the pleasure of voting his ass out.  But I would love to have the chance to donate to the campaign of a good progressive primary challenger. I highly doubt I&#8217;m alone in that, or even in a small crowd.</p>
<p>I should add that I have my own issues with forcing people who object to pay through their taxes for abortions that I still have not completely worked out to a satisfactory conclusion in my mind. But this guy and the Stupak deal are outrageous. And I have to say that if taxpayers can be forced to pay for illegal wars they object to, it&#8217;s a bit much to pick on women who are choosing something perfectly legal after more thought than Bush put into invading Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: BMcGarth</title>
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		<dc:creator>BMcGarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,they came in with BClinton and triangulating,anyone remember that.And they are still around today.I agree with you the &quot;big tent&quot; BS is ineffectual idiocy.

Someone needs to challenge Cooper in the primary.Remember folks,the congress has a piss pour approval.And the way the Dem congress is going about legislating has no popularity among Americans for chrissakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,they came in with BClinton and triangulating,anyone remember that.And they are still around today.I agree with you the &#8220;big tent&#8221; BS is ineffectual idiocy.</p>
<p>Someone needs to challenge Cooper in the primary.Remember folks,the congress has a piss pour approval.And the way the Dem congress is going about legislating has no popularity among Americans for chrissakes.</p>
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		<title>By: pineywoodsfats</title>
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		<dc:creator>pineywoodsfats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I just don’t see how a true socially progressive Dem could win a seat in a district like TN-5 or a State like ND, OK, or NE.&quot;

Not all of Tennessee is even close to the electoral politics of ND, OK, or NE.  TN-9 (Memphis) and TN-5 (Nashville) are two of the most reliably democratic districts in the United States.  Kerry handily carried both districts as did Obama--42.94% McCain 55.85% Obama in TN-5 and 22.51% McCain 76.92% Obama in TN-9.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I just don’t see how a true socially progressive Dem could win a seat in a district like TN-5 or a State like ND, OK, or NE.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not all of Tennessee is even close to the electoral politics of ND, OK, or NE.  TN-9 (Memphis) and TN-5 (Nashville) are two of the most reliably democratic districts in the United States.  Kerry handily carried both districts as did Obama&#8211;42.94% McCain 55.85% Obama in TN-5 and 22.51% McCain 76.92% Obama in TN-9.</p>
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		<title>By: Knoxville</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/09/jim-cooper-discusses-stupak-amendment-without-revealing-he-voted-for-it/#comment-3845</link>
		<dc:creator>Knoxville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely! Mention it to Jane. Seriously, this guy is vulnerable. He knows it. We know it. I mentioned it to Jane, but haven&#039;t heard back from her yet.

Btw, what do you think of Rob Miller, the Democrat who&#039;s running to defeat Joe &quot;The Heckler&quot; Wilson in SC-02?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely! Mention it to Jane. Seriously, this guy is vulnerable. He knows it. We know it. I mentioned it to Jane, but haven&#8217;t heard back from her yet.</p>
<p>Btw, what do you think of Rob Miller, the Democrat who&#8217;s running to defeat Joe &#8220;The Heckler&#8221; Wilson in SC-02?</p>
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		<title>By: NorskeFlamethrower</title>
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		<dc:creator>NorskeFlamethrower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Citizen Knoxville:

Then primary the slippery bastard&#039;s skanky ass!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citizen Knoxville:</p>
<p>Then primary the slippery bastard&#8217;s skanky ass!!</p>
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		<title>By: Knoxville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knoxville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norske,

Cooper&#039;s district, TN05, isn&#039;t a Republican district. Davidson county/Nashville is largely Democratic.

Obama beat McCain there 55%-44%.

Now all the people of TN05 need is a real Democrat who will do a much better job representing their interests.

See my Nov 6 diary (link above in this thread @ 4).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norske,</p>
<p>Cooper&#8217;s district, TN05, isn&#8217;t a Republican district. Davidson county/Nashville is largely Democratic.</p>
<p>Obama beat McCain there 55%-44%.</p>
<p>Now all the people of TN05 need is a real Democrat who will do a much better job representing their interests.</p>
<p>See my Nov 6 diary (link above in this thread @ 4).</p>
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		<title>By: NorskeFlamethrower</title>
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		<dc:creator>NorskeFlamethrower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Citizen upstateNYerMdwst:

That tired old line that a DINO is better than a Republican in Republican districts is what has got us into the mess we&#039;re in and as a matter of fact, I think you could make an argument that that kinda thinkin&#039; got the Republicans into power in 1994 and kept the Dems from excersisin&#039; their power in both the House and Senate since 2006.  Get rid of the Blue Dogs in Republican districts as long as you maintain a majority in the House...the Democrats will be leaner but meaner and will give the people in those districts real choice every election when they are tryin ta figure out why they don&#039;t have any political power, healthcare or jobs in their towns and cities. The whole idea of liberalism and progressive democracy is to make politics work for change NOT the staus quo...the Republican Party is on the edge of the cliff and American women could push &#039;em off next November iof they&#039;re given the chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citizen upstateNYerMdwst:</p>
<p>That tired old line that a DINO is better than a Republican in Republican districts is what has got us into the mess we&#8217;re in and as a matter of fact, I think you could make an argument that that kinda thinkin&#8217; got the Republicans into power in 1994 and kept the Dems from excersisin&#8217; their power in both the House and Senate since 2006.  Get rid of the Blue Dogs in Republican districts as long as you maintain a majority in the House&#8230;the Democrats will be leaner but meaner and will give the people in those districts real choice every election when they are tryin ta figure out why they don&#8217;t have any political power, healthcare or jobs in their towns and cities. The whole idea of liberalism and progressive democracy is to make politics work for change NOT the staus quo&#8230;the Republican Party is on the edge of the cliff and American women could push &#8216;em off next November iof they&#8217;re given the chance.</p>
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