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	<title>Comments on: Senate Likely To Need 60 Votes To Insert Stupak Amendment Into Health Care Bill</title>
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		<title>By: mikesong</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/09/senate-likely-to-need-60-votes-to-insert-stupak-amendment-into-health-care-bill/#comment-3858</link>
		<dc:creator>mikesong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Barbara Boxer and she repeated the claim this article does, but it&#039;s only technically right.  Reid said he does want to strengthen the anti-abortion language (just not as far-reaching as Stupak) and write it into the bill - I don&#039;t think this is going to be a case of amendment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Barbara Boxer and she repeated the claim this article does, but it&#8217;s only technically right.  Reid said he does want to strengthen the anti-abortion language (just not as far-reaching as Stupak) and write it into the bill &#8211; I don&#8217;t think this is going to be a case of amendment.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidByron</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/09/senate-likely-to-need-60-votes-to-insert-stupak-amendment-into-health-care-bill/#comment-3829</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidByron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would the Republicans need sixty votes?
The filibuster only applies against Democrats not Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would the Republicans need sixty votes?<br />
The filibuster only applies against Democrats not Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Knut</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/09/senate-likely-to-need-60-votes-to-insert-stupak-amendment-into-health-care-bill/#comment-3828</link>
		<dc:creator>Knut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have to have children early, because by the time they are thirty, their husbands are beating them to a pulp, and they are unable to conceive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have to have children early, because by the time they are thirty, their husbands are beating them to a pulp, and they are unable to conceive.</p>
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		<title>By: Knut</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/09/senate-likely-to-need-60-votes-to-insert-stupak-amendment-into-health-care-bill/#comment-3827</link>
		<dc:creator>Knut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the repeal of the anti-trust exemption, which I am coming to think is the magic wand of health reform, is there any chance of this coming up in separate legislation?  Or was it always tied to the farrago of health reform?  It strikes me as absolutely essential if the costs are to be contained.  There is no reason why the return on equity in the health business should be that much higher than in manufacturing tee-shirts.  It&#039;s not like they face any real risk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the repeal of the anti-trust exemption, which I am coming to think is the magic wand of health reform, is there any chance of this coming up in separate legislation?  Or was it always tied to the farrago of health reform?  It strikes me as absolutely essential if the costs are to be contained.  There is no reason why the return on equity in the health business should be that much higher than in manufacturing tee-shirts.  It&#8217;s not like they face any real risk!</p>
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		<title>By: PJEvans</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/09/senate-likely-to-need-60-votes-to-insert-stupak-amendment-into-health-care-bill/#comment-3823</link>
		<dc:creator>PJEvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>n rural areas it isn&#039;t unusual for girls to get married within a year of leaving HS. Not just Mormons - it&#039;s the ones not going to college, mostly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>n rural areas it isn&#8217;t unusual for girls to get married within a year of leaving HS. Not just Mormons &#8211; it&#8217;s the ones not going to college, mostly.</p>
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		<title>By: cregan</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/09/senate-likely-to-need-60-votes-to-insert-stupak-amendment-into-health-care-bill/#comment-3821</link>
		<dc:creator>cregan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you are right.  With only three votes needed to switch to defeat the bill in House, if it is not included, it won&#039;t get anywhere.

I have not doubt some Dems who voted for Stupak would vote for a conference bill that didn&#039;t include it, but for certain there are at least three who will not vote for it.

It is just the price of the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you are right.  With only three votes needed to switch to defeat the bill in House, if it is not included, it won&#8217;t get anywhere.</p>
<p>I have not doubt some Dems who voted for Stupak would vote for a conference bill that didn&#8217;t include it, but for certain there are at least three who will not vote for it.</p>
<p>It is just the price of the bill.</p>
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		<title>By: oldgold</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/09/senate-likely-to-need-60-votes-to-insert-stupak-amendment-into-health-care-bill/#comment-3820</link>
		<dc:creator>oldgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this statement is at a bare minimum way over the top. This kind of broad-brush bigotry is something one would hope not to find on a progressive blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this statement is at a bare minimum way over the top. This kind of broad-brush bigotry is something one would hope not to find on a progressive blog.</p>
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		<title>By: fatster</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/09/senate-likely-to-need-60-votes-to-insert-stupak-amendment-into-health-care-bill/#comment-3818</link>
		<dc:creator>fatster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See the link @ 38.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See the link @ 38.</p>
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		<title>By: fatster</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/09/senate-likely-to-need-60-votes-to-insert-stupak-amendment-into-health-care-bill/#comment-3817</link>
		<dc:creator>fatster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you did know that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-na-pelosi9-2009nov09,0,2168556.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pelosi called the Roman Catholic Bishops&lt;/a&gt; and consulted with them about the House bill, didn&#039;t you?   First Amendment?  Really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you did know that <a href="http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-na-pelosi9-2009nov09,0,2168556.story" rel="nofollow">Pelosi called the Roman Catholic Bishops</a> and consulted with them about the House bill, didn&#8217;t you?   First Amendment?  Really?</p>
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		<title>By: frandor55</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/09/senate-likely-to-need-60-votes-to-insert-stupak-amendment-into-health-care-bill/#comment-3815</link>
		<dc:creator>frandor55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having spent a little time in Mormon country (Utah), it was striking to see the high number of 19 and 20 year old married women with 2 children with them at the grocery store. Women are  primarily breeders for Mormons,--- just my take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having spent a little time in Mormon country (Utah), it was striking to see the high number of 19 and 20 year old married women with 2 children with them at the grocery store. Women are  primarily breeders for Mormons,&#8212; just my take.</p>
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