Last night Rahm Emanuel held a “frank discussion” with a collection of pro-choice groups in the White House about the Stupak amendment. He’ll be meeting with “faith groups” next, according to the readout.
One wonders if Rahm was making the same argument to those pro-choice groups that liberal elite opinionator E.J. Dionne makes in the Washington Post today.
The Michigan Democrat’s measure — passed 240 to 194, with 64 Democrats voting yes — would prohibit abortion coverage in the public option and bar any federal subsidies for plans that included abortion purchased on the new insurance exchanges [...]
Whatever else is true, Stupak’s amendment is unlikely to have a significant effect on the availability of abortion. And most abortions are not paid for through health insurance. The Guttmacher Institute, for example, reported that only 13 percent of abortions in 2001 were directly billed by providers to insurance companies — although the institute has cautioned that the proportion of women whose abortions were covered by insurance could be higher because the figure did not include those “who obtain reimbursement from their insurance company themselves.”
This is untrue in several respects. First, as Jon Walker has tirelessly pointed out, the amendment as written could easily apply to multiple funds given to employer-based plans in the health care bill. Second, saying that the restrictions will be “confined to the exchanges,” even if true, neglects the fact that the exchanges under the bill are set to expand, perhaps encompassing the entire insurance market.
And third, the widely-used Guttmacher Institute study, claiming that only 13% of abortions in 2001 were directly billed to insurance companies, has been misappropriated to minimize the consequences of the Stupak amendment. You don’t have to believe me – believe the Guttmacher Institute, who posted this response on their website.
However, that statistic alone misrepresents the situation on three counts:
Our study included all women who obtained abortions in 2001, including women on Medicaid and those who are uninsured. If one looked only at privately insured women, the percentage of procedures billed directly to insurance companies would be substantially higher than 13%.
Perhaps even more importantly, the 13% statistic does not include women who pay for an abortion up front and then seek reimbursement from their insurance provider. This is common when a medical provider does not participate in a patient’s insurance plan, as is often the case with small, specialized providers, including abortion providers.
Lastly, some of the women whom our study identified as paying out of pocket likely had insurance coverage for abortion care, but may not have known they had it or chose not to use it for reasons of confidentiality. Given the stigma that still surrounds abortion, many women might not have wanted their insurer or employer—or their spouse or parent who may be the primary policyholder—to learn that they had obtained an abortion. That antiabortion activists who have worked for decades to perpetuate that stigma are now turning around and using it to argue why women should not be able to purchase insurance coverage for abortion is deeply cynical.
Guttmacher says that available evidence shows most people in employer-based coverage, in other words a majority of the country, have abortion services covered in their health plans. Restricting that coverage, and eventually carrying that restriction into the entire market, would represent a tremendous change, not the small, meaningless alteration that Dionne – and I suspect, Rahm Emanuel – is arguing.
Meanwhile, the GOP is sitting back and just laughing at this.




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Thanks for this, David. And good on Guttmacher!
We need an amendment: NO FEDERAL FUNDING OF MALE RECREATIONAL DRUGS (ie: Viagra). Let men purchase a separate policy rider to cover this.
nice work, again.
The Marta Evry piece on the detachable penis — yesterday — with the link to the salon article on how women’s reporductive health including BIRTH CONTROL and routine gyno are NOT covered in the basic plan is worth repeating.
Can we expect to see that on the real news shows on Comedy Central and MSNBC???
Chris Matthews are you listening or is that 4-hour engorgement got you distracted?
As well when I read “availability” it means to me “is it available through the program”…not “was it used”. After all, when I buy fire insurance the “availability” is whether its covered, not if I actually have used it.
In addition to the Medicare coverage, Federal workers and military also lack coverage yet are insured. And then there are the uninsured.
But even if only 13% of the women who actually obtain abortions would be potentially affected if their employers shift to the exchange, or if they would have to forego that coverage to receive a subsidy…that’s still on the order of tens of thousands of women. And if one is talking about the issue of coverage (the protection) it would affect millions of women.
That’s what Rahm is trying to downplay.
So Rahm thinks it’s perfectly fine to “only” disregard the constitutional rights of “some” American citizens.
You make a valid point regarding use of the 13% statistic. Too bad you couldn’t do it without calling E.J. Donne a “liberal elite opinionator”. That sounds like something Sarah Palin would say.
I’m of the opinion that this entire year’s debate on Health Insurance Reform has been a big waste of time.
Health Care Reform is what Obama originally promised, and that is what’s needed. Lots of folks around here agree that single payer is the way to go, but this Stupak thing has me thinking.
If politicians can’t even get a Public Option or subsidized insurance for the poor without Forced Birthers screaming about abortions, how would 100% single payer ever have a chance unless Choice was completely eliminated?
Blue Texan’s regularly scheduled post is ready: “George W. Bush, Apparently Unironically, to Unveil Public Policy Institute Today at SMU”
E.J. Dionne is a “liberal elite opinionator”, I rarely read his columns because he seems so out of touch.
I keep posting this because I feel it’s relevant. There’s no question that Stupak for his 18 years in Congress has always been clear about his position on abortion. He and the other like minded Democrats, in my opinion should have made their argument a lot louder and more forcefully before running as a member of the party that adopted this provision into their Platform:
Renewing America’s Promise
The Democratic Agenda
http://www.dnc.org/agenda.html
Choice
The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman’s right to choose a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right.
The Democratic Party also strongly supports access to affordable family planning services and comprehensive age-appropriate sex education which empowers people to make informed choices and live healthy lives. We also recognize that such health care and education help reduce the number of unintended pregnancies and thereby also reduce the need for abortions.
The Democratic Party also strongly supports a woman’s decision to have a child by ensuring access to and availability of programs for pre- and post-natal health care, parenting skills, income support, and caring adoption programs. (page 50)
My point being if Stupak and those Democrats holding the same views had been as loud and forceful in August 2008 about including their voices in what goes into the Platform paper then Rahm, and the rest of the surprised and shocked DC Dem Establishment, wouldn’t need to invite either group to a “meet-up.”
I think it’s emblematic of the problem that so few are posting on this topic..
The point I was trying to make is this: If we expect to win the battle of ideas being waged in this country, we need to leave the name calling to the tea-bagers and defend our ideas without insulting everyone we don’t agree with by calling them names like “liberal elite opinionator”. All my life I’ve watched the left wing in this country set itself back needlessly by attacking it’s own. I don’t think Mr. Donne is out of touch & I generally like his commentaries.
I agree that it is not helpful to name call or to use verbage that is overwrought. Unfortunately when you are the target as women have been throughout, at least, my life time, then it’s hard not to begin levitating. That said: I do not care another day about this legislation. It grows less as reform and more for the benefit of the insurance company everyday. So I say start over and insist on single payer. I also do not consent to any infringement of women’s rights. I will only support candidates who are lockstep with me—I don’t trust any of these common ground kinds of guys who will betray me at a moment’s notice or start talking double talk— women need to be supported in their choice to carry a child and therefore I am really pro-choice! What do you think? Finally I will not give a dime to the Democratic party since it includes the Blue Dogs and the New Democrats and all the rest. I am appalled by Obama’s lack of support for women and his staff, including Rahm Emanuel. I am also saddened as I like him very much, but I do not trust him anymore. Finally I am tired of hearing how we need to get less having fought so hard for even a modicum of equality. So no, now I am not a loyal supporter of the Democrats. I am a feminist woman first and we can then go from there.
The Democratic leadersheep quietly laughed when Dick Cheney shot a friend in the face, in all probability by accident or through negligence (ignoring the later cover-up and spiked investigation of a shooting).
How ironic that that same leadersheep is shooting itself in the face, their party, many American women, and some of their staunchest current and future supporters.
Barack Obama is far more conservative than his campaign image and he likes to follow more than lead. Rarely a man willing to break new ground, Mr. Obama and his hand-picked assistant principal and chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, have chosen to follow in Mr. Bush’s footsteps here, too. They are presiding over the demise of their own party and a goodly chunk of America.
Another way of looking at these stats is to use the obverse statistic. That’s often much more revealing.
So that means that 87% of abortions were NOT covered by insurance but paid for by women directly out of their pockets. So that means that there are women who either
a) entirely lack coverage of any health program yet who would benefit from abortion coverage [yet these women would not be able to obtain abortion coverage although compelled to purchase mandatory insurance because of STUPAK]
b) were covered by insurance, but that insurance didn’t cover abortion because of the Hyde Amendment (Medicare, children on SCHIP, women in the military (or wives or teen dependents of a soldier), women in the Federal government (or the female dependents of a Federal employee).
c) a State employee in one of the 12 States that denies abortion coverage to their employees.
d) residents of the four states that deny insurers from covering elective abortions
Eliminate STUPAK and many women in that 87% – on Medicare, and in these other classes- would be able to obtain insurance options (their choice) with coverage for abortions.
These are women who currently opt for the more expensive option of carrying a pregnancy to term because the government WILL pay for that (but ignore the social costs involved…poverty, loss of educational and career opportunities, child abuse or abandonment, crime, welfare, etc.).
And because STUPAK eliminates coverage of women who have coverage in that 13% (underestimated) who opt for the exchange or receive subsidies it essentially violates Obama’s pledge that “no one will be forced to drop an insurance plan that the currently have.”
Rahm is now arguing that it’s okay if several million women give up their plans and many million more to join with those functionally denied their right of choice.
I am so glad to see you say this. It is affirming for me and I believe to most women.
I am so old that I have been alive from a period of profound, if not extreme, oppression of women’s rights.. When I applied to an advanced degree program, I was told if there were any openings males didn’t take I would only then likely be offered a place.
Fears of unintended pregnancy dominated female male, and family, relationships etc. Then came birth control (fought as vigorously as abortion now by the Catholic church) and a vibrant feminist movement, insistencing on equal civil liberties including contraception and abortion flourished.
I think it began to die when ERA failed to pass and momentum was lost. I have no idea how to re-energize it. But I hope Stupak and the disinterested Obama administration may do it.
Query? What makes pro-lifers so unpleasant? I will post my idea later. Even the ill informed blow hard clown Matthews becomes intolerably hateful when speaking about abortion, especially with pro-choice women.
I enjoyed your post…You wrote- What do you think? We’ll, I’m very much pro-choice, but I could see from a mile off that the abortion controversy has the potential to kill publicly funded health care in this country now and forever. I think Obama is taking the right strategy to try and make the health care legislation “abortion neutral” because of that- which of course the Stupak amendment is not- we certainly need to oppose it. As far as starting over and insisting on single payer, I think we don’t have the political power to do it, even if Obama were on board. I believe going down that road would lead to certain defeat- a repeat of 1994. We need to fight to make the upcoming legislation be the best it can be- but we need to pass it. Finally, I’m not so much a “loyal supporter of the democrats” either (although I’ve never voted for a republican since I cast my first vote for George McGovern quite some time ago). I am a loyal supporter of progressive ideas because that’s what I believe in. I’ve never heard any support for those ideas from the Republicans in this country and they are the only other choice real choice. Look what Ralph Nader brought us in Fla.- Twig….
I’m pretty old, too, TalkingStick- old enough to have been active in both the anti-Viet Nam War and the Feminist Movements. We seem to be going backward in this country in far too many ways (although I acknowledge that progress has been made in many areas). I am way past the years of childbearing so that abortion doesn’t directly affect me, but it affects my daughter, my nieces, my younger friends, and the daughters of my friends. I’m not willing to give up on this so that a so-called “health care” plan that is otherwise quite mediocre will pass. I have contacted my Senators to let my feelings be known, and I have notified the DNC, Organizing for America, the DCCC and the DSCC that they will never receive another dime from me, ever, if Stupak is in the final bill. Neither will any individual Democrats who vote for it. My money will be going instead to those organizations who will provide abortions to needy women who are seeking them.
Digby wrote a great satirical piece about the Stupak amendment yesterday. Check it out.
Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses in large part find blood transfusion immoral? What I’ve read suggests this is true. If so, where’s the amendment forbidding this medical treatment be covered by government-funded plans and requiring a separate rider?
I’ve always been a bit wary of Guttmacher’s polls and stats in some areas. For example, I’ve felt that their polling fails to capture health reasons except as a very narrowly defined concept. I’m not sure how this is accomplished, unless we are to believe women very narrowly define their own health concerns. It is hard for me to accept that the respondents do this when I hear women discuss their reasons for abortion within my own sphere of influence. Not wanting to be sick, in pain, and at heightened risk of various painful and expensive health problems and illnesses are always given. Selection bias on my part, perhaps. It may be that many women have just been conditioned to disregard their own health when the subject is discussed.
Further to the point, it would be as if one is shown results of a poll suggesting that the reasons for women taking statins are primarily financial (can’t afford a heart attack) or “personal” (fearing disruption from work or school activities, etc.), with health reasons weighing in at <10%.
While I recognize that there are differences, I am not persuaded yet that more women don't take their own health concerns into account, particularly with the rise in asthma, diabetes, obesity, and other medical conditions that are complicated by pregnancy, sometimes with devastating consequences.
Rahm takes another trip to the veal pen to convince the veal therein that it’s good to be in a pen.