Matthew Hoh, the highest-ranking foreign service officer to resign his post in Afghanistan, says he completely understands US Ambassador Karl Eikenberry’s move to privately speak out against an escalation of forces, given the corrupt central government in place in the country.
Hoh, the former Marine Corps captain who served in a civilian capacity in eastern and southern Afghanistan and made headlines with his resignation, participated in a panel discussion on the eight-year war after a screening of Robert Greenwald’s “Rethink Afghanistan” last night in Los Angeles. He believes that there is a window of opportunity for those who want to stop the escalation in Afghanistan while Barack Obama muses over his decision. “We have a window. Maybe not to end the war tomorrow, but to make it a year instead of four or five years, and save a lot of lives. We may not have this opportunity again.”
Hoh served under Eikenberry while in Afghanistan and did brief him a couple times about the provinces where he was posted. “I briefed, had a couple heart-to-heart talks with him. I’m glad he spoke out internally. And I’m not surprised.”
Hoh described Eikenberry as one of the more credible voices on the situation in the country. “He’s basically lived there since 2003, his wife lives there with him now.” But he was clear that Eikenberry was not alone in his skepticism of the Afghanistan project. “There are a lot of guys, not just in the foreign service but in the military, who are looking at this thing and they don’t understand what we’re doing there. I get emails all the time from junior and midlevel officers, telling me, ‘Keep it up. This makes no sense to us.’”
Hoh was joined in the panel discussion by antiwar activist and local radio host Sonali Kolhatkar, filmmaker Robert Greenwald and famed Vietnam-era activist Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon papers. Ellsberg praised Hoh for speaking out. “People are more aware of the internal dissents now than they ever were during Vietnam, because of people like Matthew,” he said. “We are at the same moment that Lyndon Johnson was in the summer of 1965, and there were a lot of dissenting voices in Washington then – George Ball, Clark Clifford, even Hubert Humphrey, the Vice President, much like today, who told Lyndon, ‘You will lose the nomination of your party if you go through with this.’ But now we have the possibility of acting as citizens to help stop this war. We know more today.”
Ellsberg called for Eikenberry to immediately return to Washington for Congressional hearings, along with Hoh. While Hoh has spoken to members of the Administration and Congress, he has not been invited to formally testify, nor has there been practically any floor debate or hearings on the matter of escalation, as deliberations have taken place entirely inside the White House. “(Eikenberry) should be brought immediately back to Congress,” Ellsberg said. “The range of debate has been between 10,000 or 25,000 or 40,000 more troops, not whether we stay or go. And that should change.”
For his part, Hoh said there’s a lot of receptivity to other points of view on the war in Washington. “That’s because this doesn’t pass the sniff test. It’s irrational and illogical, and they all know it. 60,000 troops doesn’t bring stop Al Qaeda. It doesn’t stabilize Pakistan. Our presence there doesn’t make us safer. The majority of the people fighting don’t want us or the central government in their valleys and villages. They feel like they’re defending their way of life.”
He had a particular scorn for Hamid Karzai, who he charged with operating a kleptocracy. “We’re propping up a government that isn’t worth dying for.”




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Thank you David. It was with a stroke of brilliance that FDL added your “News Desk” feature to the FDL offerings. I suspect we here have lots of company sneaking over to take a peek at your extraordinary coverage of world events. I don’t know how you do it. I’m just thankful for the huge boost to easily available knowledge to help us navigate through seemingly impenetrable thickets of obfuscation every place else we look for reason and reasons. Bravo!
Ar what point do we realize that the 2 stupidest questions in the world are to ask a General “Do you think we can win this war?” and “Do you need more soldiers?”
The answer to the first is always “Yes Sir!” and the answer to the second is always “How many ya got?”
It appears that we are fighting to prop up the mayor of Kabul who is corrupt and weak. This can’t continue. I get the impression that this war in Afghanistan is unpopular across the political landscape. Iraq is now hardly mentioned although troops continue in harms way.
FUBAR is FUBAR.
Recognize that and get the fuck out.
No one is going to change anything internally in Afghanistan except the Afghani’s.
The problem with sending more troops to Afgahnistan is that unless you commit totally to that option – not just 40,000 more, but reinstitute the draft and send at least the 400,000 that McChrystal reportedly thinks will ultimately be needed – it will fail. Incremental increases in troop strength will prove no more effective in Afghanistan than it was in Viet Nam. Even with such a commitment, success in traditional terms is highly unlikely.
There really are only two options: stay or leave. If Obama opts to get us out, prolonging our exit will not improve the situation. Whichever option he chooses, he should commit to it totally and decisively.
I can’t believe this is even being debated. Nobody knows what we’re doing there or how long it will take. This is beyond a travesty. This is a crime still in process. For the love of God, get out.
Sending more of our soldiers to die for Karzai is plain stupid. It is one more example of not knowing history. We propped up Somoza and got Ortega. We propped up the Shah and got Khomeini. We propped up Batista and got Castro. We propped up the Venezuelan elite and got Chavez. We never learn that people don’t like being abused and when they can’t take it anymore, they replace their abuser with whomever is able to take his place. If we actually took the side of the people rather than the kleptocrats, life would be so much easier for everyone, even the kleptocrats.
DON’T SUPPORT KARZAI!!! It is that simple..
Obama and others are probably backing Karzai as the lesser of evils, which is a bit of a coincidence since that is the way we usually elect politicians in this country.
Obama should have a big sign in the Oval Office with only 2 words “LYNDON JOHNSON”
You are probably right but the warlords are still operating, the Taliban is going strong, the poppy crops are thriving so the worst of the 2 evils is in fine shape. I wonder what we have stopped.
Emptywheel has a fresh cross-post ready: “The Torture Question”
You gotta love irony.
And heroes like Robert Greenwald, Seymour Hersh, Matthew Hoh & former General now Ambassador Eikenberry.
Methinks this is as good a time as any to pause, reflect, and realize once and for all that the lesser of two evils is not acceptable because it’s settling for evil.
Remember when Petraeus’ COIN book was god? That book’s prescription would require something like 300,000 troops in Afghanistan. To what end? And with the support of which American people?
Can’t wage a war without the support of either the occupied population or the population of the occupying country. It’s time to face facts: the American people don’t want us there. Neither do the Afghans.
Declare victory. Come home.
Our continuing occupation of Afghanistan has nothing to do with whether or not the regime is corrupt. It has nothing to do with keeping the evil Taliban from being mean to women. It has nothing to do with stopping the drug trade. It has nothing to do with preventing al Qaeda from rebuilding camps to train recruits how to swing on the monkey bars.
Our occupation there has EVERYTHING to do with regional hegemony. It has to do with maintaining influence on the steppes of southwest Asia, where oil and natural gas are VERY plentiful.