Comments on: Yes, The Stupak Amendment Would End Insurance Coverage Of Abortion Over Time

By: KarenM

KarenM — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:47:05 +0000

I wonder if my very passionate email to Sen. Casey last week on this very issue had any effect…

By: Redshift

Redshift — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:08:56 +0000

Have you been paying any attention to statements from senators as the bill has progressed through the Senate? Senators have been making statements for months about “this doesn’t have enough votes to pass” which really just mean “I’m against it but I don’t want to put myself on record.”

But hey, the guy who wrote this piece obviously knows more about who will vote how than Kent Conrad.

Hey, no need for all this analysis, one cherry-picked statement from a single senator is obviously absolute truth. But wait, I could easily find statements from several other senators that it will pass! Gosh, however will we resolve this paradox…

Get a grip.

By: gayle

gayle — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:43:47 +0000

Senator Stupak should be ashamed to call himself a Democrat. This is an insidious “expansion” of government that the extreme right is prepared to live with. But we have to keep discussing the distinctions, why and how this is a coup against the Hyde Amendment because many people will not understand. When they do I don’t believe most thinking Americans will balk. Really, I thought Women’s Sufferage was a phenom of the early 1900s; are we going to have to start over.

By: PJEvans

PJEvans — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:27:15 +0000

We might have to go back to the kind of instructions we had in the 20s and 30s, under Prohibition: they explicitly told you how not to make wine with grape juice. (do not add ….) I understand there are similar ones on how not to induce miscarriages.

By: boloboffin

boloboffin — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:07:18 +0000

Any medication that might induce an abortion from fertilized egg on down could be put on the other side of the government funding line.

By: dakine01

dakine01 — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:01:29 +0000

Book Salon is up at the Mothership with Marc Hetherington and Jonathon Weiler's Authoritarianism and Polarization in American Politics hosted by Henry Farrell

By: xargaw

xargaw — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:47:26 +0000

Do the mainstream Democrats have a line in the sand? They act like abused wives. Will this amendment be scrapped? It is getting harder and harder to hope they will come through.

By: masanf

masanf — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:35:46 +0000

“In fact, there are already 33 Senators pretty much on the record against the stricture, including several Senate moderates and Republicans.”

Yeah, because those Republicans are going to pass up one of the best chances to sink this piece of shit. If you are relying on that, you will be sorely disappointed.

By: masanf

masanf — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:33:50 +0000

This piece of shit bill hasn’t a fucking prayer of passing. Kent Conrad said this morning on CNN that if Stupak-like language isn’t inserted into the bill, it will not pass the Senate. Furthermore, if Stupak is removed during the committee process, you can bet it cost more than enough votes to sink the bill in the House, considering it only passed by two votes to begin with.
And I would hardly like to place my faith in the notion that Ben Nelson can be swayed over abortion when he has stated explicitly he will filibuster if the language is not in the bill. It only takes one Dem, ONE, to join the Republicans over the abortion issue and the bill is done.

But hey, the guy who wrote this piece obviously knows more about who will vote how than Kent Conrad.

By: Sharkbabe

Sharkbabe — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:30:43 +0000

yep and yep. testify!