It’s already been shown that Stupak’s full of hot air on this. (Funny how FOX won’t have him on to talk about the environment — an area where he actually votes like a Democrat — but about this.)

Give Stupak an A over his C Street studies.

I say that from Saturday forward, progressive women need to take all these threats seriously and not budge an inch. Don’t give us any handouts, but do not expect us to give way just for some supposed greater good. What I am seeing is a wholesale attack on women. Why is contraception not in the list of basics needed in the exchange insurance policies? Why are mammograms now not needed so often, or even at all? Why should women not have covered a procedure that is legal and if they say is necessary, then it is? Who has the higher authority to treat them like second class citizens? Who ever is at the bottom of undercutting women is now my enemy. We have compromised all we ever will.

No mo boner pills for Stupak.

Wasn’t it Bart Stupak the father who tragically lost a teenage son some years back. He wanted us to support some legislation against the drug industry then… my memory is foggy but wasn’t it accutane, an acne medication.
So why is he so selfish now? Where is the man’s empathy to the pain and suffering of humans out of the womb?

‘Lysistrata’ your counterparts, insist they first write letters and petitions.

Can someone provide backup for this: ” In fact, before the vote, Stupak HIMSELF said that health care would pass whether his amendment passed or not.”?

I’m writing a letter to the Economist, their recent article stated:

“And the bill would not have passed at all but for the incorporation of a highly controversial “pro-life” amendment from Bart Stupak, a Democrat from Michigan, designed to prevent subsidised plans purchased in the proposed new insurance exchange from covering abortions except in cases of rape, incest or a threat to the mother’s life.”

which is clearly nonsense, but I’d like the quote from a verifiable source to back up my letter.

Stupak is enjoying his 15 minutes of fame. But it is going to cost him big time. Rahm will put the wood to him. The Democrats are not going to piss off the core of their base, which is women voters. If Stupak tries to fuck this bill up, they will toss him out of the caucus, and let him sit with the Thugs. That’s a seat we can afford to lose. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Maybe that’s why Joe’s still called a Dem: Two’s company. There can be a caucus of two selfish, unthinking ideologues- Joe and Bart! Wonder if they will enjoy each other’s company?
Wonder what insurance company paid for his son’s fateful drug? Was there a pay off?

I have never seen so many Dixiecrats since the Nixon era. Only thing they are NOT popular with Dem voters today.. they will probably be voted away soon maybe. The Dem Party will die a caustic death without a ‘robust public option.

I disagree. Dems have perfected the art of pissing on the base. Rahm et al want to pass anything just to declare a victory.

Which is why it’s up to folks like us to remind them that they do need the base for the things like GOTV, donations (although Goldman seems to be willing to help that offset) and actual votes.

Stupak’s son committed suicide in 2000 and the family blamed it on his taking Accutane. Of course, I’m sure there was more to it as there usually is under these circumstances. But don’t blame Stupak, blame the Dems that voted for this piece of crap and Pelosi. Any idiot can come up with crap amendments, but they need help to get them attached to the bill. Pelosi is full of shit.

Pain and suffering of non-millionaires does not count.

Let’s face it, Stupak doesn’t really oppose abortion. Even if it was banned in all 50 states Bart and his Washington colleagues would still have access, flying their family members and mistresses out of the country when necessary.

If he were honest Bart would tell you, poor people expecting legislators to represent their interests is the worst part of the job…

Leader of Senate: All fellow members of the Roman senate hear me. Shall we continue to build palace after palace for the rich? Or shall we aspire to a more noble purpose and build decent housing for the poor? How does the senate vote?
Entire Senate: FUCK THE POOR!
–”Mel Brooks’ History of the World, Part I”

AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…

Citizen David Dayen and the firepup Freedom Fighters:

Stop givin’ this lunatic any more’n his 15 minutes…for Christ’s sake, he doesn’t have the votes but if we keep takin’ his blowhard bullshit seriously we may convince some whimpy Democrats that he does. And anyway, ObamaRahma and One Hung Harry Reid don’t need any more cover to pull the public option from the Senate bill.

It certainly looks like budget reconcilliation is the only way we get this done before Christmas even though I think that the longer this strings out the angrier that 70+% out here in the street get and that can only be good for Democrats goin’ forward unless Obama lets the Tiny Dancer pull a Clinton and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. How in God’s name can someone who has been so wrong on so many things for so long still have a job that influences anything other than cleanin out Gerbil cages…my God I’m gettin’ ta think that Obama ain’t very smart after all.

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, AND REMEMBER THOSE KIDS WHO ARE STILL JUST TRYIN’ TA STAY ALIVE LONG ENOUGH TO GET HOME!!

If you read the Democratic Party Platform on abortion and then compare it to the Republican’s position you might think Stupak is in the wrong party and that Obama and Rahm will set him straight, but after reading this I’m not so sure:

- On March 23, 2009, an odd column popped up in the Orange County [California] Register written by a friend of Howard Ahmansonn – a reclusive millionaire closely tied to Christian Reconstructionism and who was key funder of the effort to pass the anti-gay marriage Proposition 8 referendum in California last fall. Steven Greenhut’s OC Register column printed in its entirety a “rant” by Ahmanson explaining why he had decided to register as a Democrat, but that was hardly necessary – the Democratic Party is currently in power, and so it is likely Ahmanson wants to work to transform it from within or, to coin a term, to “theocratize” Democrats.

That would be pragmatic but also visionary. Once upon a time, though it may seem strange to think of it in the year 2009, the Republican Party was moderately progressive. So there’s no reason Democrats can’t become populist theocrats, especially if they are willing to jettison core principles such as support for secular government and minority rights.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/politics/141943/how_the_religious_right_is_infiltrating_the_democratic_party/

- In early 2009, days before the inauguration of President Barack Obama, the ‘Come Let Us Reason Together’ effort re-launched its ‘Governing Agenda’ with a flourish, by announcing a press teleconference and sending a letter to the new President-Elect and Congressional leaders from both major US political parties which began, “For the last few decades, through both Democratic and Republican administrations, America has been polarized by an angry culture war, fought over such divisive issues as abortion and gay rights.”

One of the touted contributors to the re-launched “Governing Agenda”, the Reverend Samuel Rodriguez, purports to represent 15 million Hispanic Christians…and has earned a nickname, the “Hispanic Karl Rove.” Rodriguez prayed together with Barack Obama, in a special private ceremony prior to the new president’s inauguration. Billing itself as “the leading think tank of the moderate wing of the progressive movement,” the Third Way is a highly connected inside-the-beltway effort….
- The Governing Agenda contains four points: ” Reducing abortions (reducing abortion through reducing unintended pregnancies, supporting pregnant women, and increasing support for adoption)”, “Supporting employment protections for gay and lesbian people”, “Renouncing torture”, and “Creating secure and comprehensive immigration reform”.
- As journalist Frederick Clarkson and other critics have pointed out, the Governing Agenda approach to reproductive rights seems to derive from a strategy hatched over a decade ago, to reframe the discourse in a way that would exclude, marginalize, and undercut the position that access to reproductive health care is an essential and inalienable right of all American citizens. A decade later, legal abortion is now unavailable across wide swaths of the continental United States. 87% of US counties lack a single abortion provider according to a study from the Guttmacher Institute.
- In a November 19, 2006 Utah sermon the Reverend Samuel Rodriguez declared: “We have radical Muslims. Radical homosexuals. Radical abortionists. We need radical, born again, spirit filled Christians to arise ! Do you follow me ?

We don’t need any sissy Christians, Oprah Winfrey Christians. We need prophetic, devil stomping, demon rebuking, blood washed, Bible believing, free-from-sin Christians !”

While Samuel Rodriguez could be found, in the lead-up to the 2008 presidential election, praying together in a private service with Barack Obama, he has also described Sarah Palin a “kindred spirit.”
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/8/13/5511/49602

Holding what is left of its “spiritual” hook on the ignorant these religious demagogues and con artists will drag us all into hell (if there was one).

If they bounced every DINO out of the caucus the Republicans would be in the majority again without lifting a finger or spending a dime.

Tee…heee…here’s a secret bart’y old boy….You can’t even take down your pants by yourself much less a bill..YOU are an idiot and belong in a garbage dump somewhere….

Here: http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/07/stupak-admits-he-was-bluffing-will-get-his-way-anyway/

Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) told reporters that regardless of the outcome of the vote on his amendment, which would severely restrict coverage of reproductive health issues, the House health care bill is headed for passage. He is whipping support for the amendment and estimates he has 225 votes. If he’s right, the amendment will pass, and he predicted enough pro-life Democrats will vote yes on the final bill to put it over the top. But if it fails, he said, enough pro-lifers — ten to 15, he said — will have been satisfied to have had their vote on the floor that they’ll turn around and support the final bill anyway. Picking up ten to 15 votes would give the bill a comfortable margin for passage.

Agreed – she is a bitter disappointment. “Impeachment is off the table” should have warned us. Now women are off the table. Single-payer- off the table. That is why she marched the women before the vote to speak to the benefits of the health care bill when she knew she had just sold them to Stupak. Really terrible.

On Stupak- the meek and mild mannered legislator for Northern Michigan. Ick. Who knew? When he spews his view, it is that of the righteous, the holy, the Bishops, not the dedicated, earthly hardworking women whose legal reproductive rights and health care he is supposed to represent in this earthly paradise. He would censor and mandate our lives according to his conscience held by Rome. Why is it possible that women are so disrespected and demeaned? And why the hell is our government so male and white at that? We are not talking here of male vasectomies are we? Let Stupak take a position on that- and Rome too! A righteous, dangerous ass-never to be trusted again by voters. I hope he is not planning to run for governor- though it seems that this self-serving action of late is designed for such a purpose- that or Rome is paying for the privilege of taking over America. One has to wonder if these traitorous Democrats just retire to enjoy the “benefits” they have earned? If so, there will be no leveraging them with practical solutions.