thanks David

Thanks, David. How soon before we get a look at the bill itself?

Hmm…

Only two comments so far.

A suggestion:

Next time, find a reason [any reason] to insert the name Sarah Palin in the headline.

That guarentees a hundred comments easy.

My source tells me probably not until tomorrow at the earliest.

My “boycott Sarah” blog strategy is backfiring!

Headline should have been: Sarah sez CBO Scoring on Senate Bill’s $849 billion is Wrong.

Yeah, but what about Lieberman?

Thanks.

Ben Nelson, fearing reconciliation,

I know what this references, but it’s an interesting concept.

Oh, wait. “Leiberman tells Sarah Palin that Ben Nelson fears reconciliation.”

My new cat is so friendly that I’ve stepped on her tail twice tonight while getting dinner ready to go into the oven. She’s often hanging around my feet when I’m not paying attention to her.

Heh, I bet you’re making something catlicious. Step on a tail, feel guilty making the cat howl, try to make nice by sharing dinner with the cat. It’s a trap.

Just do reconciliation, already. Give the conservadems all the power they deserve: none.

Thanks for the update David, be interesting to see what we have to deal with come tomorrow when details of the bill are released.

If one factors in the difference between private insurance and those who participate in a public option, there’s another 30% savings for THAT group, a savings CBO doesn’t apparently score due to their methodology.

Still, I wanna SEE where those savings are coming from . . . . but it’s one step forward, today.

There is absolutely no reason to listen to any Republican talking about the “strain on the deficit.” The House and Senate bills would reduce it.

What, are we taking notes from Karl Rove now?

Stop projecting — the problem real health CARE reform is facing, unless you happen to be an insurance company or D party operative, is CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS. Pretending that the D party is free of conservatism is, besides being intellectually dishonest, a grave disservice to the progressive cause. No progressive ought to allow this misleading corporatist talk to go unchallenged.

For me it is enough that these imbeciles Nelson, Landrieu, Lincoln and the rest have based their opposition to the PO as being a government takeover of the health system. Regardless of what their motives for claiming this may be. This level of idiocy is inconsistent with the power that Senators wield.

Even should they ultimately acquiesce and agree to side with cloture to debate the bill they have disqualified themselves from further holding their seat. To the extent we are able to exert any influence we must work to unseat these people. They are truly a present danger to the well being of this country.

MSNBC is reporting that the CBO has scored the Senate’s merged bill as costing $849 billion dollars over 10 years.

unless the cbo has scored this bill differently from all the others this year, this will NOT be the cost — it will be the fed budget number, which can be wildly at odds with the actual cost. for actual cost of reform to the country we need total national health expenditure numbers, and the only organization to report on them at all this year that i’m aware of is the cms — and they’ve only done the only gross figures, not the detailed components (cost to households by income level, cost to employers, cost to state and local gov) which we should also have to understand cost implications, but that’s another story.

anyway, take home message is: cbo score is not cost of bill to nation.

p.s. dday, i replied at length to you in a previous thread re the cms reporting an apparent 10% cut to medicare (house bill). some of it looks right to me, but some looks very problematic. however, i don’t know enough to translate table 3 of the report into something i can understand.

http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/17/health-care-bill-to-drop-tomorrow/#comment-4697

lol. i think that calls for more petting, less cooking. at least that is what i am told by my cat speaking housemates *g*.

Liveblogging Harry’s Press Conference

yes, but who cares…

Yeah, sure this will reduce the deficit. Just like the other entitlement programs in the United States have. Nothing says saving money llke subsidizing the insurance of milllions who don’t have it.

Anyone who believes this is a naive moron. Thankfully several Democratic senators have pretty much promised to join the Republican filibuster on the final vote for this piece of garbage.

“Even should they ultimately acquiesce and agree to side with cloture to debate the bill they have disqualified themselves from further holding their seat.”

Indeed. Because moderate Senators from conservative states who don’t support the far left policy agenda obviously don’t belong in the Senate. All those pesky elections that put them there? Let’s just abrogate those.

Thought you might appreciate this thread title that popped up recently at DU:

“After Viewing Palin Book Tour, Mayans ‘Move Up’ Doomsday Date
Discussion started Wed Nov-18-09 08:16 PM by Don Davis”