Harry Reid made some news at today’s press event touting the Senate health care bill. He said that the first motion to proceed would come on Saturday, with full debate likely to start after the Thanksgiving holiday. He also said that reconciliation is not an option:
Reid also said he would not use a procedural maneuver known as reconciliation to pass the bill – a shift from previous statements when he would say all options are on the table.
“I’m not using reconciliation,” he said flatly.
This is a stark difference from what Brian Beutler reported just a day ago, where he reported that reconciliation is still an option. All the conservative Democrats not yet committed to cloture said that.
In response to a question from TPMDC (Nebraska Dem Senator Ben) Nelson told reporters that, at a meeting this afternoon with Sens. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) and Blanche Lincoln (D-AR), Reid “talked about process, procedure, discussion about reconciliation and a whole host of issues of that sort.”
“Nobody’s really jumping up and down to push for reconciliation,” Nelson said, “he’s not threatening that, but anybody can conclude that if you don’t move something on to the floor, that is one of the possibilities.”
You could potentially read Reid’s “I’m not using reconciliation” statement as referring only to the current action, but an interesting, predictable dynamic has emerged.
When reconciliation was still on the table, leaders were confident that all members of the Democratic caucus would vote to bring the bill to the floor for debate. Indeed, today, some Senators, like Evan Bayh and Mark Pryor, have signaled their willingness to support the motion to proceed. But with reconciliation off the table, take a look at Ben Nelson’s hesitancy to announce support.
Sen. Ben Nelson (Neb.), one of three centrists Democrats who have not pledged to support a critical test vote on healthcare reform Saturday, again declined to declare his intentions Thursday.
But Nelson vowed he would not keep Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) waiting until the last minute.
“I’m not looking to delay it. As soon as I’ve gotten through the review, I’ll be ready to do something,” Nelson told reporters. Questioned whether he might make an announcement Thursday, Nelson said: “Could be.”
As I noted previously, Nelson is saying that the abortion compromise language in the bill “isn’t good enough” for him, and explicitly stated that he would feel better if the public option came out of the bill, making a direct connection between the abortion question and the public option.
See what happens when the leverage against conservative Democrats is eased? The power dynamic immediately changes.
Give ‘em hell, Harry.



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dday:
Do you suppose the GOP and the Blue Dogs (as well as the rest of the Democratic caucus) would be willing to trade any and all abortion funds (government, exchange, health ins, etc.) for closing the gender pay gap?
I’m thinking that finally closing that 24% gap in pay would, for most women, be enough to put some aside for such a rainy day. And for those of us who are past worrying about it, we could put some aside for a rainy day for someone for whom closing that gap would still not be enough to allow her to put something aside for herself.
“Give ‘em hell, Harry.”
If by “‘em” you mean the non-corporate people of the U.S. then hell is what Harry has been giving us, and is what he’s giving us now, and is what Harry will continue giving us until he is thrown out of office.
Alternatively, Harry Reid got the ConservaDems’ commitment to vote to proceed by threatening to use reconciliation; they agreed on the condition that he wouldn’t use reconciliation BUT that they would get to make publicity-attracting noises about perhaps not voting for the bill.
So, the ConservaDems look powerful, Harry looks weak (which he doesn’t ever seem to mind) but in fact the power is all in Harry’s hands now, since he has their votes despite their words now.
It could happen. I’m impressed when Schumer says that Harry Reid is the best vote counter he knows. I don’t see evidence of that yet, but maybe Schumer does.
Harry will have no choice but to cave to the people this time. For they will kick him out of office for what he has not done already for Nevadans. If he doesn’t give one of the states most likely to collapse, a health care bill that starts day 1 and covers everyone, he hasn’t a chance in hell of being re elected. He hasn’t a chance in hell of returning to Nevada unless he wants to live like Howard Hughes did.
good luck Senator, you have to choose between the bribe and the people you pretend to serve. Which is it going to be? We don’t like your bill. It if full to the neck with feces, and you are going to wear it.
I’m not fond of giving up an existing right to get something else that should be a right.
It’s like telling blacks that we’ll close the pay gap between blacks and white, but they have to give up the right to vote.
Stop trading. Did the GOP trade anything on FISA and Telecom Immunity and Military Commissions and the Iraq War and the Bush Tax Cuts?
John
No, John, they did not, and I should not be so flippant, but sometimes being so is the only thing that keeps me from shrieking.
Still, there is something very disempowering about that wage gap… and I was wondering how much the GOP would be willing to “pay” for what they say they want. I’m not completely convinced they really want to eliminate all abortions. Some of the conservative Dems, maybe, but then they don’t use the abortion issue to rouse “their” base, only to tick it off, and show how independent and bipartisan they can be.