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	<title>Comments on: Reid, Wyden, Baucus Reach Agreement On Version Of Free Choice Amendment</title>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/20/reid-wyden-baucus-reach-agreement-on-version-of-free-choice-amendment/#comment-5283</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Divorcing health care from employment should have been the foundation of HCR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Divorcing health care from employment should have been the foundation of HCR.</p>
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		<title>By: nandssmith</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/20/reid-wyden-baucus-reach-agreement-on-version-of-free-choice-amendment/#comment-5279</link>
		<dc:creator>nandssmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Wyden has spent his entire career working on improvements in health care/pharma for seniors, as well as improving health care for all Americans.  

Also, by beginning to divorce health insurance from jobs, it is a good systemic start for single payer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Wyden has spent his entire career working on improvements in health care/pharma for seniors, as well as improving health care for all Americans.  </p>
<p>Also, by beginning to divorce health insurance from jobs, it is a good systemic start for single payer.</p>
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		<title>By: chipher</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/20/reid-wyden-baucus-reach-agreement-on-version-of-free-choice-amendment/#comment-5235</link>
		<dc:creator>chipher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The potential for insurer bait-and-switch in the exchanges is grotesque.
The healthcare business doesn&#039;t provide &quot;50/20/10&quot; comparable coverage!
It&#039;s a total crap-shoot what kind of association and coverage you get.
You would be totally gambling that saving $20 going with a new exchange,
would provide comparable coverage when you found out you have leukemia.
Then they&#039;d send you to an association of only out of town med centers:
&quot;Oh, I&#039;m sorry, our policy is not to cover experimental cancer cures.&quot;
Now you&#039;ve got a pre-existing condition when you try to change coverage!
Your forked! It&#039;s like playing Indian poker, when you&#039;re the only Indian!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The potential for insurer bait-and-switch in the exchanges is grotesque.<br />
The healthcare business doesn&#8217;t provide &#8220;50/20/10&#8243; comparable coverage!<br />
It&#8217;s a total crap-shoot what kind of association and coverage you get.<br />
You would be totally gambling that saving $20 going with a new exchange,<br />
would provide comparable coverage when you found out you have leukemia.<br />
Then they&#8217;d send you to an association of only out of town med centers:<br />
&#8220;Oh, I&#8217;m sorry, our policy is not to cover experimental cancer cures.&#8221;<br />
Now you&#8217;ve got a pre-existing condition when you try to change coverage!<br />
Your forked! It&#8217;s like playing Indian poker, when you&#8217;re the only Indian!</p>
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		<title>By: ImprobableJoe</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/20/reid-wyden-baucus-reach-agreement-on-version-of-free-choice-amendment/#comment-5230</link>
		<dc:creator>ImprobableJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t trust this a bit. When people give a percentage that acts as a &quot;trigger,&quot; I always assume that the next step is to jigger the numbers so that the shift in policy can never be triggered... if triggers were a bad idea for the whole public option, they are a bad idea for this component.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t trust this a bit. When people give a percentage that acts as a &#8220;trigger,&#8221; I always assume that the next step is to jigger the numbers so that the shift in policy can never be triggered&#8230; if triggers were a bad idea for the whole public option, they are a bad idea for this component.</p>
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		<title>By: mrbill143</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/20/reid-wyden-baucus-reach-agreement-on-version-of-free-choice-amendment/#comment-5216</link>
		<dc:creator>mrbill143</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to kill Health Care.

It&#039;s our  money.  Trips to D.C. won&#039;t do it, beating on the office doors won&#039;t either.

Making a  trip to our bank first thing in the  morning  will !

Withdraw all  {day 2 day}  bank accounts  down to their minimum.

Take the  funds in a  Cashiers Check only  (DO NOT CASH THEM)

Tell the  banker &quot;you might re-deposit&quot;  once  Congress starts listening  to the 85% of the  people that don&#039;t  want  this  crap !

Otherwise, you might  just  have  to  work out of a  shoe box for the  next couple of  years.
The bank isn&#039;t  paying me anything to use my  money.....what  less than 1%.

The  bankers  will be  screaming their  heads off and  Congress will hear them,  long  before they even give you the  time of  day !

Get this out to your friends A.S.A.P. we need to get everyone to participate.

LET&#039;S ROLL  PATRIOTS    DRAW THOSE ACCOUNTS TO THE  MINIMUM  FIRST  THING IN THE  MORNING   &quot;BEFORE  THEY VOTE ON THIS BILL&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to kill Health Care.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s our  money.  Trips to D.C. won&#8217;t do it, beating on the office doors won&#8217;t either.</p>
<p>Making a  trip to our bank first thing in the  morning  will !</p>
<p>Withdraw all  {day 2 day}  bank accounts  down to their minimum.</p>
<p>Take the  funds in a  Cashiers Check only  (DO NOT CASH THEM)</p>
<p>Tell the  banker &#8220;you might re-deposit&#8221;  once  Congress starts listening  to the 85% of the  people that don&#8217;t  want  this  crap !</p>
<p>Otherwise, you might  just  have  to  work out of a  shoe box for the  next couple of  years.<br />
The bank isn&#8217;t  paying me anything to use my  money&#8230;..what  less than 1%.</p>
<p>The  bankers  will be  screaming their  heads off and  Congress will hear them,  long  before they even give you the  time of  day !</p>
<p>Get this out to your friends A.S.A.P. we need to get everyone to participate.</p>
<p>LET&#8217;S ROLL  PATRIOTS    DRAW THOSE ACCOUNTS TO THE  MINIMUM  FIRST  THING IN THE  MORNING   &#8220;BEFORE  THEY VOTE ON THIS BILL&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/20/reid-wyden-baucus-reach-agreement-on-version-of-free-choice-amendment/#comment-5214</link>
		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to David and others and all for keeping us up to speed on all the machinations on this HCR.

I&#039;m with JOanne, I&#039;m suspicious as hell.

Blub says it, and Kelly, yep, a million is more than we had yesterday, without a LOT of others to be included into the PO, it will be designed to fail.

Not to mention the start date needs to be 2010, no Stupak, no Eshoo, repeal of MacFerron whatever, has to have NO exclusions for pre existing, needs to cap premiums pricing on private side ASAP, enable import of foreign drugs to lower PhARMA costs, eliminate &#039;D&#039; Donut Hole, and on and on.

You know, reform, not a fucking giveaway to corporate feudalist overlords.

I&#039;m hittin the Merlot early, I MIGHT just have an attitude tonite about HCR, and oligarchy.

*G*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to David and others and all for keeping us up to speed on all the machinations on this HCR.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with JOanne, I&#8217;m suspicious as hell.</p>
<p>Blub says it, and Kelly, yep, a million is more than we had yesterday, without a LOT of others to be included into the PO, it will be designed to fail.</p>
<p>Not to mention the start date needs to be 2010, no Stupak, no Eshoo, repeal of MacFerron whatever, has to have NO exclusions for pre existing, needs to cap premiums pricing on private side ASAP, enable import of foreign drugs to lower PhARMA costs, eliminate &#8216;D&#8217; Donut Hole, and on and on.</p>
<p>You know, reform, not a fucking giveaway to corporate feudalist overlords.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hittin the Merlot early, I MIGHT just have an attitude tonite about HCR, and oligarchy.</p>
<p>*G*</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Canfield</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/20/reid-wyden-baucus-reach-agreement-on-version-of-free-choice-amendment/#comment-5206</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Canfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another million. Good. Need more, but good.

I&#039;ve been wondering where Howard Dean is lately; I&#039;m of a mind that if he&#039;s not visible, he&#039;s very busy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another million. Good. Need more, but good.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been wondering where Howard Dean is lately; I&#8217;m of a mind that if he&#8217;s not visible, he&#8217;s very busy.</p>
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		<title>By: Blub</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/20/reid-wyden-baucus-reach-agreement-on-version-of-free-choice-amendment/#comment-5204</link>
		<dc:creator>Blub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we &lt;em&gt;need&lt;/em&gt; to figure out how to open up the PO to more people.. only way its going to work as a cost cutting measure.  This amendment is a start, but I want more.  We should begin with everyone who works for small business, maybe include students and recent grads, people between 55 and 60, etc., etc.  I don&#039;t care how access to it gets expanded, but without a broader scope, it will fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we <em>need</em> to figure out how to open up the PO to more people.. only way its going to work as a cost cutting measure.  This amendment is a start, but I want more.  We should begin with everyone who works for small business, maybe include students and recent grads, people between 55 and 60, etc., etc.  I don&#8217;t care how access to it gets expanded, but without a broader scope, it will fail.</p>
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		<title>By: joanneleon</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/20/reid-wyden-baucus-reach-agreement-on-version-of-free-choice-amendment/#comment-5106</link>
		<dc:creator>joanneleon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what exactly the version of the Wyden amendment is.

It seems like this got into the bill too easily.

I should be very happy about this, I think, but instead I&#039;m suspicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what exactly the version of the Wyden amendment is.</p>
<p>It seems like this got into the bill too easily.</p>
<p>I should be very happy about this, I think, but instead I&#8217;m suspicious.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/20/reid-wyden-baucus-reach-agreement-on-version-of-free-choice-amendment/#comment-5020</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slippery slope.

Works for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slippery slope.</p>
<p>Works for me.</p>
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