Blanche Lincoln is addressing the Senate right now. She’s touting the Senate Finance Committee bill – which she voted for, by the way. She wants the final bill to be closer to the “common-sense, deficit-reducing bill” in the Senate Finance Committee, and that she will work hard to do that. That seems to tip that she’ll vote to proceed debate, since otherwise, could you fix the bill at all? We’ll know in a moment.
…Says that in 17 states, including her home state of Arkansas, one insurance company covers at least half of all residents. “American capitalism is based on choice and competition.”
…Decrying that groups “from outside my state” are pushing her about her vote on health care. “These outside groups think this is all about my re-election… they don’t know me very well.”
…”I’ve avoided the extremist claims from the left and the right” and sought common-sense policy solutions. Issue is very complex and there’s no easy fix. Should build on what’s already working. All Americans should have access to quality and affordable health care. Do not support robust and government-administered public plan. Shouldn’t put federal budget at risk to public plan bailouts.
…”My first loyalties are with the people of Arkansas, not with insurance companies or the members of my party.” Touting her amendment in the SFC limiting insurance company CEO salaries.
“Our Republican colleagues object to beginning debate. I have concluded that we should begin this debate rather than dropping the issue and walking away.” So she’s voting for the motion to proceed. All drama ended on the motion to proceed!
…”I will not allow my decision on this vote to be made by my political opponents or liberal interest groups from outside my state.” Those horrible liberal interest groups who want health care for all Americans!
…”Let me be perfectly clear. I am opposed to a new government-administered public option and I will not vote for what has been proposed by Leader Reid as it has been written.” There will be other procedural votes… I’ve alerted the Leader that I’m prepared to vote against moving those procedural votes as long as the public option is included.
Listen to what Lincoln is saying. She’s clear that she won’t vote for a bill with the public option. Then she says that everybody’s blown the public option’s importance out of proportion. So she’s staking her vote on a tiny, meaningless bit of the bill!
…We should be stopping the growth of gov’t… without public option we can still do a lot.
…Lincoln’s ransom note: no public option; deficit neutral; build health care work force, especially in rural America.
…”This is not my last or only chance to have a role in health care reform.”
So, where are we? Lincoln says she’s against the bill with a public option and that she’ll vote against a final cloture vote if that remains. She’s OK with the motion to proceed tonight. She joins Joe Lieberman as the two who have unambiguously said they’d join a Republican-led filibuster over the public option. 58 other Democrats have not said that.



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She’s not happy with us.
Cry me a river Blanche.
Looks like it’s down to Holy Joe to kill this thing now. I just know he wants to be THAT guy.
…”My first loyalties are with the people of Arkansas, not with insurance companies or the members of my party.”
Lie.
I can’t wait for them to filibuster their party on the public option. Keep making those threats Blanche!
Who’s the “Madame President” the senators are referring to?
Creeping me out!
N I don’t think Mz. Blanched has spoken with ES, about how Arkansans feel about HCR.
*G*
Uh Blanche? Your constituents want a Public Option
Suppose the public option is removed in the senate bill but is reinstated in the conference report. Is the conference report subject to a 60 vote filibuster or does it just require 51 votes?
Shorter Blanche: “I was not elected to this august body to represent the poor.”
I love Sen. Levin, bless his heart, but for dawg’s sake can ANY of these people just cut to it and keep it under 5 minutes if all they are gonna do is support Reid’s or oppose Reid’s bill, and argue to move forward or not move forward?
TAKE THE PHREAKIN VOTE ALREADY!
Windbags, one and all.
Sigh.
Who is “Madame President”?????
Any one? Please?
The presiding officer of the Senate is Madame President.
joefleetfoot
None, I repeat none, of this is “subject to 60 votes” Reid can, if he had the balls, put this thing through with just 51 votes as a ‘reconciliation’ bill., He has no balls and he also knows that the anti-abortion amendment will be stripped when this thing is on the floor and that freaks him out being an anti-choice Senator.
Good question joefleetfoot! It’s obvious that bitch was referring to Jane with her “Liberal Groups” bullshit! Yeah, Blanche, we’re definitely going to enjoy kicking helping to kick your stupid ass out of office! And it’s pathetic whatching them get up their and tell us how this vote won’t affect how they vote on the final bill. Spare us the bullshit posturing for the few idiots in your so called Red State that don’t support the public option. Those Republicans and Conservatives aren’t going to vote for you Blanche so, you can stop kissing their asses with your insurance industry talking points! The Republicans in Arkansas are just not that into you!
“Should build on what’s already working”
The private for-profit insurance system is NOT working. Medicare is!!!!!!!!!
So today, Blanche Lincoln says…
And yet she wrote on her official website:
Which one is it, Senator Straddle? Why the flip-flop? Do Arkansans want a public option or not? Whom do you represent?
”My first loyalties are with the people of Arkansas, not with insurance companies or the members of my party.”
WOW what a lying sack of shit .. where’s that thunderbolt-hurling friend in the sky when you need him ..
Uh, is not Reid the presiding officer?
Or is there a woman Senator that’s holding the gavel during these proceedings?
And how does THAT work, that Reid don’t hold the gavel?
Can I get a NAME for this “Madame Prez” everyone is referring to?
Thanks for the reply . . . .
Who is “Madame President”?????
I believe that Maria Cantwell is in the seat at the moment.
Fine. But lets suppose that Reid doesn’t have the balls to go to reconciliation. My question is the same. Can the conference report be filibustered or does it only require 51 votes?
Is it Speaker Pelosi?
Reid is the Majority Leader. Whoever presides is the President; it’s never leadership, as they are busy managing floor debate. When there’s a lady presiding, it’s common courtesy to address her as Madame President. CSPAN rarely shows the presiding officer, whom all Senators are actually addressing in their remarks unless given permission for a “colloquy” when they speak to one another, usually for purposes of clarification.
Nothing sinister is going on.
I won’t be held accountable by “other groups outside my state.”
I’m just a victim of “other groups outside my state” who want to get me, but all I’m doing is what the people of my state want me to do.
WTF?
Is that the bullshit she’s trying to sell?
This is the Senate; Pelosi is Speaker of the House.
Conference reports can be filibustered if they are not budget resolutions or reconciliation bills.
The use of the word “president”, I believe, is only meant to refer to the person presiding over the debate. I didn’t get it watching the House debate, until I heard the same term used referring to different people in the big chair at different stages of that debate.
Dang…Teddy beat me to it, and said it better…
Isn’t Senator Mary Landrieu presiding over this debate? Nothing sinister about that at all.
Thanks JayT! I think yer right.
I guess I’m not aware as to how or why Reid isn’t at the helm . . .
Some parlimentary procedure, I assume, I’m not aware of (clueless on this I must admit).
‘Preciate your reply and explanation!
Good lord, the Senator From TN came out swinging with more lies out of his mouth than I can believe exist!
He’s really appealing to the cameras, as he alludes to in his opening.
What bullshit! Medicare cuts, and on and on and on . .
Info on the protocol here. Byrd is president pro tempore, as long as that remains the case it is a safe bet the task will be delegated to someone else.
Corker advocating repealing Medicare and Medicaid.
Besides, isn’t Vice President Biden also the President of the Senate?
The Majority Leader in the Senate is not like the Speaker of the House, who is elected by the members of the House.
The Majority Leader in the Senate is just the leader of the majority party.
Again the same answer. Yes a filibuster is possible… as long as we, the majority, let it happen however the filibuster is something that can be done away with by a simple (51) vote.
Larue.
The Presiding officer of the Senate is a rotating position. The “actual” president of the Senate is the VP (Biden) however he is rarely there as the trains do not run on time from Delaware. The presiding officer is always from the majority party.
Teddy thanks, was not thinking sinister, just had no CLUE as to what was goin on.
How is the presiding officer determined in these matters?
By whom? Or by what process? And does it matter, other than they adhere to parlimentary procedure and the protocols involved?
On behalf of the thinking people of Tennessee, I’m embarrassed…
Geebuz, Sen. Corker is a corker, for sure.
What blather!
One does wonder if she receives monies from out of state or does she restrict her donations to those from Arkansas?
Dick Cheney showed up from time to time to tell senators to go fuck themselves. *g*
“I won’t be held accountable by “other groups outside my state.”
Yet many millions of Americans will be held hostage by you and Joe Lieberman when it comes to getting some shot at affordable health care. Hubris, thy name is “US Senator”.
Excellent point. She’ll take money from “other groups” outside Arkansas, but doesn’t like “other groups” outside her state running ads telling her constituents that she’s not doing what they want her to do.
It was Landreau earlier, it will be someone else later.
They change every so often. But it will ALWAYS be a Democrat when the Democrats have the majority and it will always be a Republican when they are in the majority.
The technical “President of the Senate” is the Vice President of the United States, but obviously he’s rarely there to take that action.
In the Senate, when they refer to the “leader” at the moment, it is “Mister or Madam President.” The same thing occurs in the House insofar that even though Pelosi is the Speaker, she doesn’t assume the big chair all the time. So they assign a Democrat to do that when they’re in the majority. And in the House, when referring to the “leader” at the moment, it’s always “Mister or Madam Speaker.”
And how many insurance companies contribute to her campaign who also provide abortion coverage?
Ok!! BIDEN is the default presiding President.
In his absence, someone else, the MOST SENIOR MEMBER of the majority presides.
That would be Byrd?
But it’s a woman? And I wouldn’t know if it was Cantwell or not . . don’t know their faces!
So, still confused, but MUCH less so!
Thanks Pups, for indulging my quest for details . . .
Ratfood, yer a hoss, thanks man!
Teddy too!
Whoops. Too slow a typer. Ratfood beat me to it.
Does this mean I owe you a beverage?
I do believe he considered himself a King and was pissed when addresses as Mister President.
My bold.
Thanks. Diet cola, please.
dude – I’m from Indiana.
If I felt the obligation to apologize evvery time one of my congress-creeps spoke out – I’d never have time to make another comment.
Sentiment appreciated, however.
My heart out to ya hoss . . . bless Corkers lil heart, he’s full a it, ain’t he . . .
And now Burr, spinning reality with blurred and misinterpreted factoids!
Tax bills for small businesses with 50+ employees!
A killer for small business!
A business with 50+ employers in MY mind is no longer small business.
A repug arguing that a major giveaway to corporate feudalist overlords is a tax burden on the little people!
I’m dizzy, simply spinning!!! Oh the ironing!!!!
Most of us are in the same boat, wherever we hail from.
Sliiiiiding down the bar atcha!
Dems are trying to reform healthcare and the repubs are playing three-card monte.
Thanks man, how ya feeling today?
Better that than the full monty…
They’ve staged a play! It’s a fukkin’ Greek tragedy!!
And now Burr, spinning reality with blurred and misinterpreted factoids!
Burr seems to know the exact number of times each and every word is used in the bill – which is pretty interesting in that his party claims to not have had enough time to even read the thing.
motherfuckers lie at least as naturally as they breathe…
I say we pool resources and chug every time we hear um . . .
“I’ve LISTENED to my constituents . . ”
I got Merlot. I may hit it early today, at THIS rate!
Mayo Clinic is not accepting Medicare or Medicaid patients?
Huh?
Who IS this Barasso putz from WYO? Besides being a liar . . .
Better that than the full monty…
hey – knock it off, would ya?
Sleep is already a too precious commodity.
That’s so clean and neat even Spic N Span can’t improve it!
Thanks OFG!!!
You da man!
Not good, but I’m sure I’ll live. Thanks for asking. Bad pain last two nights, so lack of sleep too. But I still try to give ‘em hell. *g*
Perhaps the House would be better if you prefer larger bodies…
And the republican plan? Tort reform and unfettered nationwide insurance access with free reign to rape pillage and plunder at will.
What could possibly go wrong?
*G*
Yeah, all the single chorous voices jumpin in on Corker’s action!
Wow . . . what scripture! Er, scripting.
My bad . .
You take anything for it? I wouldn’t survive (or wouldn’t want to anyway) without pain meds.
Fuck American capitalism. It works only for the likes of Blanche Lincoln and her fellow plutocrats not for working and middle class Americans
A doctor given props for being an expert in our health system. As a truck driver, perhaps I can advise our Transportation Secretary.
Ah, Sen. Barasso, of WYO!
He’s a DOCTAH! He KNOWS healthcare!!!
Damn but the Repugs are milking that crate of incredibility!
Doc’s don’t lie? How’s he keep his license while in service to his constituents and The Senate?
good to see ya around more often, OFG.
Nebraska dude fixin to cry.
I believe that’s pronounced “bare-asshole.”
Oh, won’t someone think of the babies???
Nebraska dude fixin to cry.
I thought that Boner was the designated republican weeper.
Different houses, I know… maybe he’s carving himself out a role heretofore non-existent in da Senate.
only until they’re actually born.
and don’t expect us to care about the mamas, either. (pregnant? oops, sorry, pre-existing condition…)
FunnyWheelieDiva
Vitter has been known to experience some leakage.
Corker: “I don’t SEE much reform in this bill.”
Uh oh, now I’m agreeing with RePugs . . .
This CAN’T be good!!!
They won’t help fund prenatal care, so they don’t REALLY care about the unborn either.
Yeah, but sometimes when it’s really bad they don’t help much. I used to be on a daily morphine regiment. Taking a slow release pill every morning and every night. But after a while I started experiencing very, very bad nausea. Plus, I just didn’t like the way I “felt.” Can’t really explain it, but just didn’t feel myself.
So they changed me to another one (can’t remember the name of that one), that I took everyday, morning and night. That one worked better than any I’ve experienced. But someone up in the heirarchy of the VA decided that one was too “addictive” and so they sent me from the Pain Management Clinic in the Baltimore VA back to my primary care physician in Martinsburg. He treats me pretty well, but it’s the kind you just take when you hurt. And like I said, when it’s bad, it’s just bad. The one I took everyday seemed to prevent it.
Oh well, sorry for the length over a personal problem. I’m sure there are a whole lot of folks worse off than I am. All you have to do is listen to some of the stories being told on the Senate floor tonight. I’ll be OK. I’ve got great healthcare.
He’s a proctologist?
snert
Had ME busted out bawlin like a baby!
Not for the reasons he mighta wanted . . .
I thought that he fixed that with diapers.
does anyone happen to know whether the lieberweasel is going to speak – or would that ruin the drama?
Best wishes to ya hoss . . . glad you got good care, too.
Thanks for all you bring to the table with your comments, all greatly appreciated.
I’ve been offered narcotic painkillers but prefer to leave myself some headroom for as long as possible. Once the big guns lose effectiveness you have nothing to fall back on.
Best of luck to ya.
For those of you multitasking, http://www.kvmr.org is streaming a show featuring Doug Sahm, Augie Myers as principals, and Freddie Fender and Flaco Jiminez to come.
All Sir Douglas and Texas Tornado’s! Live radio, a DJ spinning it!
Yeah but like most Republicans Vitter opposes change.
If Doug Sahm is doing live radio, I’m definitely tuning in….
Must be a time warp if Freddie is doing live radio.
You’re pretty much making it your personal mission to make sure that I can’t sleep tonight, aren’t ya?
Coburn spinning reality and saying that because pediatric specialists are so lowly reimbursed in Medicaid, OTHER docs to be in schools are not going INTO ped specialty’s!!!!!
Wow, what a grand leap of bullshit!!!
Can’t believe it . . .
Well, Doug as we all know, is pickin live up above . . . but the DJ at hand is an old time fav of mine, for this great little community based station up the hill from me.
And there’s a LOT Of Doug Sahm to come, up to 2pm left coast time, in this show!
Depends…
Yer killin me, see my #88.
Man this is a tough crowd . . . ;-)
Freddie was a good guy, may he RIP. Got errands to run, see ya later.
I continue to be frightened every time I hear a Repug CLEARLY define the shortcomings of REFORM in the Senate Bill at hand, and the cost burdens the Senate Bill as is will create.
Truly time warping shit, and mind boggling.
The Repugs are stealing the prog/lib playbook!!!!!
Somewhere, Hades has frozen over.
Man this is a tough crowd . . . ;-)
that’s why we
get paid the big…err, never mind. Just goofin’ *g*
I wasn’t much into Freddie’s pop stuff as an artist, but with Texas Tornado’s, his art blossomed for me.
That was one whacked out lovely inspiring group.
“Hey Baby, Que Paso.”
does this “debate”, evidently concerning the question of whether there will be more debate (I’m so fucking confused) end at 4:00 EST?
If so, the Lieberweasel has evidently decided to not grace us with his presence, and is still keeping that one Barney Fife bullet in his pocket.
Wow!
Amy K from Minneswota just put the shiv into Corker, and Barrasssshole, regarding their lies about Mayo Clinic!!!
Man, if Pups missed Amy K, you just missed a lot!
She just SKEWERS them all to hell!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!!! Truth about Mayo and John Hopkins!!
w00t!!!!!
I’m climbin upstairs, to catch up . . . thanks all for the chat!
Oh Blanche! C’mon get the facts on what’s already been happening with the public option! http://cli.gs/z3AtaY/