A new poll from Democracy Corps includes a key data point, suggesting that the Obama Administration tactic of claiming that the economy would have been worse without their actions, regardless of the truth of the statement, is a political loser.
The poll, taken in 60 of the most competitive Congressional districts, shows that over half of respondents believe that the President’s economic recovery plan could help, but only one-third think the economy has begun to improve. And the polling memo goes on to say:
That half in these swing (but Republican-leaning) districts believe that President Obama’s economic recovery plan could help suggests the economy could break in favor of Democrats, but the country is not ready to listen to a narrative about how Democrats have brought the economy “back from the brink” and averted an even worse disaster, as articulated by the president in his joint session address to Congress earlier this year. That leaves a lot of receptivity to Republican messages that focus on wasted spending and exploding deficits. On the other hand, focusing on the specific benefits in the stimulus package that have helped working Americans through the crisis and on rebalancing the economy so it works for the middle class (not just the wealthy) has a much bigger impact and effectively challenges the Republican narrative.
Here’s the key piece from the poll:
Considering these results, it is not surprising that a message taking credit for “bold and decisive action” that “pulled this economy back from the brink” fell completely flat with these voters. Across the entire congressional battleground, just 43 percent of voters found this argument convincing, easily the lowest of six Democratic economic messages tested. The timing for such a message is clearly way off – and leaves the voters to hear Republican interpretations of the economy that, at this juncture, are much more in touch with the reality voters are feeling.
With unemployment at 10.2%, absolutely nobody is willing to swallow the “back from the brink” narrative. To those 10%, not to mention the long-term unemployed and underemployed, their personal economy is already at the brink. It’s extremely hard to prove a negative like that, especially when the country continues to feel like it’s in recession.
That line of argument won’t succeed. If you want to help people in their economic struggles, you’re going to have to do more than talking them into it. You’re going to have to give them some tangible help.



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“the economy would have been worse without their actions, regardless of the truth of the statement, is a political loser.” ; YUP! I guess ‘comments off’ isn’t working?
Wanna lose your House seat in 2010?
Tie yourself to Obama.
Oh, 2010 is going to be bloody.
I could have told him that. In fact I did in some thread days ago remark how stupid the “saved” a million jobs (or whatever the number is) sounds.
Exactly. Show ME the recovery. I don’t give a tinker’s damn for the banksters and other motu’s. Help ME.
It’s the economy, stupids, and if you won’t act like Democrats I have no use for you.
“It could be worse” is a really crappy campaign position.
Feh.
FunnyWheelieDiva
I am among those that don’t believe the president has stopped the loss of jobs
giving billions and trillions of dollars and keeping a few hundred thousand jobs IS NOT A RECOVERY!!!
he could have given that money to those out of work and gotten FAR more jobs with the businesses they migh have invested
it’s OBSURD this president takes some kind of credit for “slowing the loss of jobs
ALL he needed to do was create jobs, NOT “make government more efficient” though he COULD have done both
I am really not liking this guy, to me he is this generation’s hoover and the demoncrats will not win the office next go round unless this man learns pronto he needs PROGRESSIVE economists
It’s not a recovery if there are no jobs.
Yep. But it shouldn’t be, and it wouldn’t be if Democrats would just do what people elected them to do.
When the Democrats pat themselves on the back for a “jobless recovery” they are simply saying what most of us know: that the concerns of the average citizen are the last thing on their agendas.
i am long term unemployed and dancing as fast as i can to search out work and keep the dep of labor satisfied so my benefits will not be interrupted. i definitely know that my life would be in much worse shape without the actions this administratiion has taken so i am a supporter. i do believe, at least, in obama’s intentions. i believe that this administration knows what we feel like and is legitimately concerned and trying to help. but every day is a challenge and we can only tread water for so long.
still, i don’t hold it against these guys and i certainly don’t trust anything the “other guys” would come up with. in fact, i’m pretty certain the Republicans have no concept of anyone else’s situation right now. nor do they care.
This is compeltely incomprehensible to me. “We Saved the Bankers” isn’t working as a political slogan? Who could have predicted?
Hey we are going to spend a million bucks per job in Afghanistan.
Those jerks could have shown us a little recovery in the form of decent healthcare reform. Instead they are going to mandate that we buy crap insurance.
ReagObamanomics.
It’s bipartisan.
I agree. Even Krugman writing today on the need for jobs fell into mealymouthed talk about a “technical” recovery. It isn’t jobless. It’s job loss, and it definitely is not a recovery.
I think he’s been invited to the table this time around… Guess he’s dumbing it down.
The recovery.gov site has 640,329 jobs created (or saved)as of October 30, 2009 from the Obama stimulus. Compare this to the 15.7 million unemployed or the 27 million un- and under- employed.
Really? That’s encouraging.
don’t even get me started!
I’m glad to have 2 rounds of Fed money for UI benefits. But that really feels like a short-term, BandAid sort of thing.
And we thought the ’80s was The Decade of Greed…
FWDiva
Yeah.
And what does it say that it’s Big News when there are fewer than 500K jobs lost for the first time in months. 650K is pretty paltry…
FWDiva
Yep. “We’re Not Bush” and “It Coulda Been A Lot Worse” is a terrible campaign basis.
And that’s exactly the basis they’re going to have to campaign with unless they consolidate their feces and actually do some, you know, good things for people.
And wasn’t the goal 3M jobs created (or saved)? At this rate we’re looking at, what, 5 YEARS to see that?
Pathetic.
FWDiva
“consolidate their feces”
I like that! Thanks for the smile!
FWDiva
;]
I was told at work today that I swear too much. Which was the wrong thing to say to me, as now I can’t turn of the smart-ass-o-matic module.
KO has special comment tonight on Afghanistan.
Oh yes. O’s plan is the same as W’s, with all the bad parts removed. Bugeting will go thru congress with oversight. No no bid contracts. Etc. Bwaaaahahahahaha.
Fat and rich bankers is not a recovery. Record bonuses for theiving “financiers” who have never worked an honest day in their lives is NOT a recovery.
Which is unconstitutional. Congress CANNOT mandate CEO bonuses and profits for private insurance companies (or ANY corporation).
Yup, and I intend to help draw the blood.
per year. one million per “job” per year. but not one penny for any jobs here (unless you are a thieving banker/wall street leech).
Speaking of Krugman, in his article (or at least the one I read) he mentioned that the government should create jobs by creating jobs. I wholeheartedly agree with that except that Krugman said we should create “work project” jobs like the WPA. They don’t even need to do that. All they need to do is ask various state and federal agencies, most of which are grossly understaffed, and ask them what their needs are and allocate money so they can hire people. I spent the summer working at a federal plant gene bank. Everyone there is stressed out and overworked trying to do the job of three people. I worked hard, they liked what I was doing enough to give me an award but they wouldn’t hire me as a permanent employee because they had no money. Every government agency I know about is in the same boat. It’s just so stupid.
Really interesting discussion going on upstairs.
I was in economic development for 10 years–and the cities and towns (and a state) that I worked for would have laughed me out of the council chambers had I tried to pull the “I saved jobs” bullshit. I cannot believe the administration has so little respect for us. this guy is toast, somebody needs to tell him make room for Sarah…he’s SO tonedeaf, so arrogant…or completely cynicle…and he’s relegating us to four absolutely unnecessary years of republicanism which will probably (literally) be the death of me. God I hate these people.
PS I couldn’t help but sign up to write this. I’ve been following FDL for months and it’s the best on health care that exists. Plus you guys don’t censor every third word (I’m a little intense about this stuff!) So thanks for everyone’s good work and thoughts.
Some areas like education get an incredible bang for the stimulus buck, but there are, of course, many others. My view is that stimulus should also take the country somewhere it wants or needs to go. If we want to create good stable long term jobs, we need to have a policy of re-industrializing the country in a sustainable way.
There are plenty of reports accessible to them, that say that unemployment benefits and living wages will do more to stimulate the economy than anything else they can do, and at relatively little money.
But no, they have to do it the bass-ackwards way, trying to jump-start the machine by blowing hot air up the exhaust pipe.
the individual mandate is probably constitutional. i don’t see a 5th Amendment takings challenge going anywhere. A Commerce Clause challenge might provide a greater challenge to the mandate – how can the Congress force an individual to participate in interstate commerce who chooses not to? That’s the more interesting question, Constitutionally. (But probably a loser).