A lot of people are linking to this story in The Hill about how Tom Coburn and David Vitter won’t let Democrat Sherrod Brown join their amendment that would force members of Congress to use the public option:
Sen. Sherrod Brown (Ohio) said he is trying to co-sponsor the amendment — but that Coburn and Vitter won’t let him. Coburn and Vitter are planning to offer the amendment during the Senate floor debate on healthcare reform.
“They’ve not said yes to allow me to be a co-sponsor,” Brown told The Hill on Thursday. “I’ve called their office four times. I’m proud of the public option, I think it would be great and we ought to join it and show the country how good it is. I think my interest may be more genuine than theirs, but I’d like to work with them if they’ll let me. If they just want to score partisan points, I still want to work with them.”
(UPDATE: I guess the bad publicity made Coburn and Vitter relent and make Brown a co-sponsor.)
Amusing. But Coburn submitted another amendment yesterday which was interesting, given the timing. Here’s the summary:
SA 2825. Mr. COBURN submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill H.R. 3590:
At the appropriate place, insert the following:
SEC. X. BUREAUCRAT LIMITATION.
For each new bureaucrat added to any department or agency of the Federal Government for the purpose of implementing the provisions of this Act (or any amendment made by this Act), the head of such department or agency shall ensure that the addition of such new bureaucrat is offset by a reduction of 1 existing bureaucrat at such department or agency.
This is an amendment that would fire random federal government employees. And it was submitted in the context of 15.4 million unemployed Americans, on the very day that the President convened a summit to address how to add jobs to the economy.
Of course, Tom Coburn is maybe the biggest hypocrite in the entire health care debate, a man who continues to talk about the dangers of government getting in between a patient and their doctor, when as a doctor he sterilized a woman without her consent.
The campaign grew more divisive with the emergence of details about the sterilization in 1990.
Dr. Coburn performed it during an operation to remove an ectopic pregnancy, a dangerous condition in which an embryo was growing in a fallopian tube. He removed the tube and tied off the other one, leaving the woman sterile.
The woman says she never consented to the procedure. Dr. Coburn said that he obtained oral permission for the sterilization, but that a nurse failed to obtain written consent.




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David Vitter?
http://www.zazzle.com/david_vitter_strong_leader_for_louisiana_postcard-239535115741343134
Update via Greg Sargent:
Brown has done it – is now a co sponsor
link
Saw that, will update
Thats awesome! How are these stupid republicans causing so much problems for these Dems. This amendment makes no sense from the republican point of view that the public option is bad. If only the Dems could take advantage of opportunities like these . . .
Just curious, and respect that you may not be familiar as well, but wondering how you can force yourself to be a co-sponsor of a bill that hasn’t actually been introduced yet?
I mean, they might re-write the thing before introducting it and Brown could find himself the co-sponsor of a bill outlawing all abortions, or some such nonsense, couldn’t he?
Do the Rs stay awake at night to think these things up?
It’s not a bill, it’s an amendment, and I believe it has been introduced, because the way Brown forced himself on it was by asking unanimous consent on the floor to be made a co-sponsor.
Yeah, right, understood it’s an amendment, but the way the original piece read it hadn’t been introduced yet. I’ll go re-read it again. My mind sometimes gets things wacky. Sorry.
Yeah, the original piece clearly states it has NOT been introduced. But that was written last night. So it was introduced this morning?
Edit: Even the latest link in the update, reads as though it is still in the process of preparation, not yet introduced.
“In case you missed the backstory, The Hill reported this morning that GOP Senators Tom Coburn and David Vitter are preparing an amendment to the health care bill that would force Senators and members of Congress to also use any public plan that is passed.”
The same amendment was part of the HELP committee bill (and Coburn introduced it there). Who told Harry to strip it out?
Blue Texan’s regularly scheduled post is up and running: “Charles Krauthammer: US Will Lose War in Afghanistan Because Obama Lacks “Will””
Tom Coburn is the guy who tried to keep Schindler’s List from being shown on TV:
He’s also the guy who objects to abortion when it’s freely chosen by women, but has no objections to forcing it upon them.
This guy Coburn is a becoming a top rate killer of Americans. He’s leveraging his title as “doctor” to spearhead the “enlightement” of elitist obstructionism on behalf the GOP and the robber barons of the health insurance industry. He is against anything that would improve the health insurance coverage for any American that is a member of the minority of the working class.
Seems to me there was another “doctor” by the name of Josef Mengele that did the same thing – only his hard-on was aimed at a different kind of minority…
I wouldn’t mind if reform included the requirement that Congress use the public option. For one thing, it would improve its prospects. For another, it would lead to clamoring for its general availability under the heading: “If it’s good enough for Congress, it’s good enough for everyone.”
Often it seems impossible to figure out what politicians like Coburn and Vitter are thinking. Consider whether the reason is that the exercise rests on a false premise: that they are thinking to begin with.
I found the amendment on Thomas. Doesn’t that mean it was introduced?
Yeah, but these R’s are doing it for the most deeplly cynical reasons – they figure the self-interest of Congressmembers will mean they will vote overwhelmingly against it – and against the entire bill, meaning the amendment will cause the entire bill to fail.
Of course, (pace Jane), if it continues getting worse and worse (see yesterday’s news about twisting it for Snowe and Landrieu etc.), that may be what we want too.
No, I’m not quite there; we’ve (p;rogressives) staved off a lot of bad stuff; we may be able to do it again.
But don’t be thinking Coburn ever does anything for the right reasons. I doubt if that guy is right as often as a stopped clock.
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Oh, ok. I think (not sure though) that if it’s on Thomas it has been at least filed with the clerk of the Senate and awaiting introduction on the floor. So, if it’s at least been filed with the clerk, wouldn’t think it would be re-written. But not sure, I’m NO EXPERT at all on Senate procedures. That place has volumes of arcane rules to get lost in.
Sorry to be anal, was just curious. Would hate to see Brown (a real good guy IMO) open himself up to Rethug games. Probably wouldn’t happen anyway, would be against the “spirit of the Senate” and all that. But was just curious. LOL, could just envision two R Senators sitting in a room laughing gleefully that they’ve got a Democratic co-sponsor on an amendment they haven’t even introduced yet and all the wonderful possibilities that would unearth. But, like I said, probably wouldn’t happen anyway. Was just curious. Sorry for the detour.
ya know, i seem to recall how harry reid INCREASED the staff budget for the minority (REPUBLICAN) party early this year. perhaps coburn should walk his fucking talk with implementing that rule in the republican senate offices.
here’s the thomas permalink for sa 2825 (the one in the post is a temp link).
says it was submitted on wednesday:
the full bit from s12167 of the congressional record reads:
that’s all i could find. leave the interpretation of what it means to you-all.
p.s. if you look at the thomas urls i used, you can see how to make permalinks to senate amendments and pages in the congressional record.
Nothing this idiot does surprises me. How about a pay cut for both houses of Congress [except for Sen. Sanders; he's the only one that represents the American people]. How about putting an end to their many perks they receive just because they’re there. What about just doing away with their damn jobs. I’d be willing to do it for half the money. Lots of us are unemployed and could do their job a helluva lot better than they’re doing it. He can always go back to “doctorin’”.
Oh, please, no. The man is (!) an ob-gyn. At least he is now being kept away from ruining women, like the one he stealth-sterilized. Doubt if that was the only outrage he perpetraed on patients.
I think that only co-sponsors can Amend an Amendment without a floor vote…which is why Brown likely wanted on as a co-sponsor. I don’t think he’d be trapped co-sponsoring an Amendment he couldn’t support. I recall that co-sponsors can withdraw at anytime up to the actual vote.
One point, I’m not sure what status co-authors of Anmenment have in negotiation with the House version.
“stealth-sterilized”????
Do you mean he sterilized a woman without her consent? Why the fuck isn’t this maniac in jail? And do you mean he still has a license to PRACTICE MEDICINE???
Or am I misunderstanding the term “stealth-sterlized”?
Oh, Coburn ‘s a real bastard
I wonder how they intend to define “bureaucrat”. It seems like a term of argument rather than a job title.
“Wanted bureaucrat, 5-10 yrs pettifogging exp. plus bureaucrat degree, position of assistant to general bureaucrat division manager, ability to bustle a plus.”
Prolly not a crime. As you see in Elliott’s link, the victim did sue him. Civil remedy only.
Then why does he still have a license to practice?
And why the hell ISN’T IT a crime? You mean I can go to the doctor tomorrow for a gall bladder operation, and he can remove my penis (because he thinks I’ve been chasing too many skirts) and all I’ve got is civil recourse? It sounds criminal to me. Make no mistake, he KNEW what he was doing, and did it anyway, not like an inadvertent medical mistake. It damned well ought to be a crime. IMO.
God, I don’t remember hearing that. Maybe I did hear it and just don’t remember, I dunno, damned memory is fleeting too.
This could be a win/win/win for Democrats if they would take advantage of it. Democrats’ getting behind this amendment could solidify the public option (and may even convince them to put it into effect before 2014); it could turn public opinion overwhelmingly in favor of not just the public option but the entire health care reform bill, and it could defy the conventional wisdom that the Democrats stand to lose seats in the 2010 election. In fact, it would be a brilliant move – which of course means they’ll do no such thing.
My point is that there may be no reasons, cynical or otherwise, behind the measure. Coburn is just a bad man, a C Street alley cat who — especially given what he’s done — should be spayed. And don’t get me started with Vitter. I’m suggesting we see less of a design and more of an implosion from the likes of these idiots. They’ve got substantial money behind them to cover for their mistakes, but they are slso out and out fools. I just think that, here, Brown did the right thing.
Coburn if one remembers right tried to make a crooked deal to buy off ensigns gilfriends husband, and had He been charged for that crime, and Ensign charged for His crimes we would have two less oponents. Had Bitter been forced to resign even one less.
We see our laws don’t work when it is these guys envolved.
There is something enheirently wrong when all these men live in a house together leaving wifes and families at home. Could it be they enjoy the freedom that gives them, to do all the things they preach so loudly against.
Republiklan party officials do not believe in Freedom. They believe in Fiefdom over working people and Freedumb for their rabid klanservative followers.
We need to punish the companies that donate money to conservatives in both parties. Go see http://www.democratz.org to find out how you can do this. Tell your friends.