Yes, it’s endgame.

The progressives will be hammered into allowing a corporate-mandated shit sandwich to be shoved down our collective throats.

And in turn the corporatists will be rewarded for toeing the corporate line.

And the last remnants of what was once called the Democratic Party will be gone with the midterms. They’ll believe, with good reason, that there’s only a choice between either corporate whoring or political suicide.

End of game, indeed.

A caller on this a.m.’s WJ plugged the following website-www,democratz.org.
I have been unable to get on yet, but the caller suggested boycotting companies that contribute to anti-healthcare reform legislators. This is language they can understand, MONEY. They refuse to listen to our votes and to our voices, perhaps they will listen to their pimps.

Also would recommend re-reading Howard Zinn’s “A People’s History of the U.S.” as a reminder how the citizenry once fought the greedy, corporate, self-serving bastards.

I still can’t believe it–that Democrats would pass a public option-less health reform bill. It boggles the mind.

But here’s a curiosity. Rockefeller says 10 Senators are involved in the PO compromise: “five moderates and five progressives.” I guess he is counting Tom Carper as a progressive? Lordy help us if Carper is progressive.

NELSON
LANDRIEU
LINCOLN
LIEBERMAN
PRYOR

ROCKEFELLER
CARPER
SCHUMER
FEINGOLD
BROWN

The New England Journal of Medicine’s editorial on “health reform” has been published. LINK

On the NEJM page you linked to, there is a poll on the Stupak amendment:

The Stupak amendment to the House’s health care reform bill would further restrict access to abortion. Do you favor this amendment?

No (41.0%, 1,036 Votes)
Yes (59.0%, 1,489 Votes)
Total Voters: 2,525

I really hope this is just a lot of drive-bys by anti-abortionists.

Feingold is no progressive on health care after this week, either, having voted with the GOP against Mikulski’s women’s health bill.

HHS Secretary Sebelius, when asked what the president would tell Senators, responded, “Pass health care.”

There you have it: just pass something.

Orahma is a disaster. A fucking disaster. Truly worse than bush. A bigger evil than cheeney.

Oh joy, more wet noodle leadership.

“I’ll be in Hawaii, fellahs, send me something to sign, please!”

Jeebus. They couldn’t have planned a worse outcome.

Over at Huff Po
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Share Print CommentsIn a breakthough in Senate negotiations around a public health insurance option, Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) sat down with centrist conservative Democrats for the first time Saturday since the bipartisan Gang of Six broke up shortly after returning from the August recess.

Since then, Snowe, the most likely Republican to cross the aisle on health care reform, has been meeting individually with Democrats, but

You really believe that? A bigger evil than Cheney? Really? If you aren’t joking, your comment is one of the most remarkable I have ever read here.

All hail Empress Snowe!

Some comments just make me shake my head as much as what’s going on in DC.
So helpful. Astute.

This is NOT like the first WH effort to affect the Senate outcome. The White House has had its finger on the scales from the beginning. Orszag attended the Gang of Six meetings for weeks, and the WH was effusive in praise of what he/Baucus had achieved. And the WH attended the Harry Reid meetings. There has been no “hands off” approach, at any time.

Then the WH reverse engineered the letter from 23 economists saying, “you need to do these four cost-cutting things,” when the WH knew what harry reid was about to release in his merged bill; so when Reid released his bill, the economists said, “hey, you did everything we asked, great job,” and Rahm was there the next day to say, “see, all the economists think the Senate did a great job.”

This is exactly the same as the WH leaking Iraq WMD stories to Judy Miller, then going on Meet the Press/Face the Nation the next day to say, “see, even the NYT agrees there are WMD.”

This is how Administrations do it.

A bigger evil than Cheney? Really?

Yes, because with Cheney, what you hear is what you get. With this hideous, duplicitous asshole, you never get what you hear.

A far, far better, content rich website that tends to promote boycott is adbusters.org. The one you list is good for a ‘z’ instead of n ‘s’.

It’s hard to boycott monopolies which do provide a necessary service. Not exactly same as choosing to boycott Nike while being able to buy from Puma, NB, etc.

Probably not worse than Bush, of course, but what makes the outrage magnified for progressives is that he campaigned as the anti-Bush.

Remember, he was going to change the way things get done in Washington. Instead, under his administration so far, the more things change the more they stay exactly the same.

I wish his children were a bit older. Then I could imagine him sitting down and explaining why, unlike them, over 8,000,000 other children don’t have health insurance in America.

“But, Daddy, didn’t you tell us you were going to change all that?”

What a silly comment. Makes no sense to me.

She said that no agreement had yet been reached, but that the group was considering “another option,” aside from those already under discussion.

This can’t be good considering that Snowe is so virulently opposed to the PO.

Surely you are not implying that TrickDick was not duplicitous….Ho Ho HO. I think my sides hurt.

You mean like we have found the weapons of mass destruction?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

What you see is not what you get. He was, is and will be a skillful and evil player. Anyone who thinks that he has ever been honest and transparent is smoking the wrong cigars.

Sorry, HoHOHO, that was for Eco at l7.

Rush and Hannity have nothing on you.

Not sure who you mean….but if you are talking about the President, I do believe he cannot be compared to Cheney who lies and shoots people

I assume he goes to bless the senate’s capitulation on the public option.

He will offer something that is rhetorically “empty,” except, that there will be a dog whistle to end this. And, the end will be understood by those holding out for the public option to relinquish that effort for the good of the party.

Oh dear. Oh dear.
And, I have such a nice fire in the fireplace and it’s cozy and well, rats!
(yes, that is a page.)

I’ll fucking second that, because he’s hardly yet begun to fuck with us.

His SEC regulator is allowing insider trading on the exchange. Bernanke and Geithner are mooving some 5 trillion dollars from taxpayers to ueber rich Wall Street speculators, Cap and trade is well (a big charade), healthcare a farce, and he’s opening up a new hot front in Pakistan, doing Zero about Israel, and on and on Fisa, and on. Hugh has a list – take a gander oldman.

xoxoxo

A bigger evil than cheeney.

Stretching it, perhaps.
But there’s some currency to it – He’s a very smart guy, and he does sit in the big chair.
Now imagine what 2001-2008 would have been like if Chimpy had half of Obama’s brains.

Yes, absolutely. For the good of the party. We have to destroy the party in order to save it, presumably.

To the commenter who compared Obama to Cheney, you better go ahead and change your screen name. You dared to challenge the echochamber and now you will be made to pay.

Sorry. I was referring to the ex-vp.
Yes, I’m disappointed in what’s going on, but there is no way, no how that there I can sit still to someone calling our president worse than what I’ve lived through during that coup.

Sharkbabe is an old timer here. She needs to do nothing of the sort.

You’re still here.

it’s difficult to grasp wuzzup when you’re just demi there.

There aren’t enough votes in the Senate to enact the sweeping HCR favored here. Period! Blaming Reid or Obama for this is damn foolishness.

In 1935 FDR had 71 Democratic Seantors to work with in enacting Social Security. In 1965 LBJ had 68 Democratic Senators and a handful of Mugwump Republican Senators to work with in passing Medicare.

I choose door 3 for Obama.

No reason to continue the personal thing. Really.
You have no idea.

For the life of me, I can’t find a single instance of a senator being denied medical treatment on account of a previously existing condition.

Ergo, no links.

Demi, Hey…Im signing off…Advent for the kids and hospital tomorrow. Have a good evening out there.

There aren’t enough votes in the Senate to enact the sweeping HCR favored here. Period! Blaming Reid or Obama for this is damn foolishness

Come on, in the 2006 and 2008 congressional and presidential campaigns Obama and countless other Democrats made it quite clear things were going to change in Washington once the Republicans were kicked out of town.

That was bullshit and they knew it. Playing the numbers game now doesn’t change either their flagrant incompetence or hypocrisy.

Will do. All best and hugs to you. (and cookies)

More likely, drive to(by AstroTurfers), not drive by.

I didn’t hear Obama stand up to promote or even in defense of what is needed to arrest the middle class from hurling into total defilement. 45,000 dead each year – Obama knows that and look what he’s doing. Senate? – He is the leader of the Democratic Party! Let the Senator who wants to burn him say so! I didn’t elect a lakey, – I elected an agent of change!

He hid.

Laura Flanders’ GRITtv (the best blog you are not reading) is now on the front page!
Week in Review: A Voice from Afghanistan

Huh? What’s Fiengold’s reason?
He’s no Kucinich whom I love, but who also believes in little green men and the great spook in the sky.
Sen. Fiengold usually has a logical reason for opposing seemingly liberal offerings.

All they need is 50, Biden can be tiebreaker.

If they wanted to do away with the filibuster, once and for all (as it SHOULD be done away), they DO have the votes to do that. Therefore, it is a copout to say that they don’t have the votes to make real change. They DO have the votes, they just don’t have the spine.

Well how did I miss his whistle stop tour to bring the PO to all americans?

I’m just sick – physically ill – of all this health care debate. I’m done. Wake me when EFCA comes up.

Jeez. I usually think you’re an asshole, but I agree with ya there.

So, I’m not the only one not “getting it”?

FL Gators lost. Good.

Yankees won. yankees won. nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

It’s

all

bullshit

Huh, that one will likely make you even sicker. I’ll bet they don’t even get FIFTY for that one, even though probably 50 or more at one point have voiced support.

But it’s easy to voice support for something. Much harder to actually vote for something, when every, single, major corporation in the country is going to align against this one. At least with health care, you had major organization voicing support (AMA, AARP, etc.). With EFCA, every big busines big player is gonna come down hard. And it won’t be pretty when we discomver just how many Democrats really are either too scared to fight that big of an enemy or bought off by that enemy.

Hope I’m wrong. Have been many, many times, and will be again. Hoping this is one of those times. Not holding my breath though.

Thanks for the reminder. Cookie?

He sent Sebeluis in his place, then handed the Congress a bag of dynamite and plugged his ears.

You get it, it’s just all bullshit any more.

Remember when Obama wanted a bill on his desk before the summer recess?

there is no way that will pass

The audacity of pretending, or something.

Depends on what you mean by ‘not getting it’, – it just may be true.

Our system was designed to make progressive change difficult. Sweeping progressive change has only happened when there were super majorities in place. We don’t have that now and as such only incremental progress is available.

that’s it.

Sorry but I do think Obama is nothing but Cheneyism with sexiness. Oh and buh-bye social security.

gave up on healthcare, moving on to the escalation IN Afghanistan. It’s always something.

Bah.

One fucking never knows, do one?

A-yep, that’s my thinking. I don’t even think it will be close.

Doesn’t turn me on in the least. Personal taste.

First off, Public Education – Arne is already working overtime for Private Charter schools.

That scares the shit out of me. What about all the money we had to pay into it?

allow for some hyperbole. Sharkbabe is quite sharp, – more peeved is all.

If you want a President to blame for this, I would suggest you consider Madison.

Bernanke fired the first shot during his confirmation hearing…
He used Willie Sutton as an example to suggest that ‘entitlements’ are where the money is, and that money is how ‘they’ may ease fiscal concerns.

If you want to go that route, my vote goes to Isabella Rimado de la Conquista de Granada.

Yes. I know. Fuckery. How can they call it an entitlement if we HAD to pay into it?
Thousands of dollars. I am beside myself.

Your heart is good but you aren’t thinking rationally about the filibuster.
As originally implemented, the filibuster was a deadly weapon for the abuser, not for the citizens. Therefore it was rarely used… until

The rules were changed (over time) enabling its painless use along with it’s dementedly spawned cousin, the so-called “Hold”,,, by any pissed off racist, flatearther, phalanges scraping Senator.

If the Dems were at all not in the corporate bag, they easily could revert to the old filibuster rules.

Then the Rs would have to deal with some real consequences of their childish and destructive behaviour.

A decent filibuster rule however, is a good way to prevent a racist, sexist or whatever majority of senators from enacting really stupid stuff. Nonetheless, it is now being immorally used to block good stuff.
It needs to be repaired, not shit-canned.

No thanks. There is NOTHING in the Constitution that require’s super majorities to pass a simple bill. In fact, the Constitution is pretty clear on the cases that require supermajorities (impeachment, overriding of vetoes).

All it takes is the Democrats to have the spine to do what needs to be done. The fact that they don’t have the spine to make the changes necessary to improve our country is in no way, shape, or form the fault of James Madison. (My school ! ! Go Dukes!! JMU JMU.)

“But… but… but… what about comity?”

-Harry Reid

comedy.

Nothing with kings, nothing with crowns;
Bring on the lovers, liars and clowns!

Old situations,
New complications,
Nothing portentous or polite;
Tragedy tomorrow,
Comedy tonight!

I might be a bitch once in a while, but rarely has anyone questioned my intelligence here.

Tragedy, really.
Harry Reid is the Republican party’s best friend.

like you said.
and pretty, too.

Funny Thing Happened on the Way To the Forum

I wrote this to DiFi this afternoon:

I am horrified by your stance on Social Security. The social security fund is fully funded through 2017. Or perhaps it has been raided by the people in the government. We paid for our social security through taxation. How can you think it is just or moral to take money from people now? How can you look at yourself in the mirror in the morning? You are married to a man who makes millions through defense contracts. You are both actively and passively killing people. How does that feel? You must not care. That is the only conclusion I can come to.

Funny Thing Happened on the Way To the Forum Quorum.

ding

Only 2 I trust on that list are Feingold and Brown. The others have shown they are not progressives on nearly every other issue, so their dedication to a real PO is extremely suspect.

Okay, well, I amend my last statement. That leaves Brown.

The Constitution allows each house to make there own procedural rules. But, beyond that, the Constitution has many anti-democratic components that make progressive change difficult.
For instance, California with roughly 12 percent of our population has the same number of Senators as Wyoming that has 0.17 percent of our population.

goodness and badness
man in his madness :)

really i don’t mean to bash Barack. he’s nice enough. what i mean to say is, we’re on our own.

DiFi’s been climbing over dead bodies since the Moscone & Milk assassinations.
What’s could few hundred thousand uninsured corpses possible mean to har now?

A bit overboard. There’s no way his policies are as aggressively extreme as Bush’s. They’re hardcore neoliberal in terms of economic policy and status quo in terms of foreign policy though.

He’s more dangerous in the sense he can sedate the left both here and abroad, while Bush was a lightning rod to the left world wide.

“…and status quo in terms of foreign policy though”

Mmm, but isn’t that status quo a bit to the right of Genghis khan

No shit. I lived in S.F. when all of that went down. Horrifying.

But, when you call people on the right progressives, you render useless another group’s identity!

me too. I mean – I lived in SF for many years a couple of times. ;)

…so we have a hometown idea of what went down – way back then.

‘nice enough’ – sounds B’rakish.

There’s no way his policies are as aggressively extreme as Bush’s.

He doesn’t have to be as aggressively extreme as Bush. He just has to do nothing, which he has.

He’s more dangerous in the sense he can sedate the left both here and abroad

zactement.

We do NOT have a friend in the WH, and need to grok this fact.

Certainly is. Haha. That’s the problem. The difference was Bush was aggressively pushing the US to extremes. Obama is just maintaining the military empire he was handed. Doesn’t excuse him of course, and I don’t support him at all. I also don’t believe we’ll ever have a hero president with these 2 parties, or even under another party if by some miracle they won.

Really, our problem is clear at this point. 2 parties do not make a democracy. They naturally gravitate towards power and market themselves as a mystical pragmatic “center”, protect themselves from outside opposition, and weaken checks and balances. A 2 party state acts much like a 1 party state because they know they will never be eliminated from power (either as the leading party or opposition). Not that every Democrat is in cahoots in some master plan, it just happens that those who serve the wealthy, powerful, and big industries (health care, military) also have a lot of campaign cash and face less resistance on their job. Life is easier when you play along and don’t swim against the tide. It’s also clear the center-right, neoliberal “wing” of the party leads the party and they have an advantage from a hierarchal stand point within the party.

Anyway, this has to be fixed, but simply voting for 1 third party during a presidential election is hopeless. We have to think outside that framework.

Coupled with the Peoples Temple massacre, it was a busy time.

Maybe sharpness is like pornography.

I worked at Mount Zion right after that and met many of the relatives of the victims.
Boy Oh Boy.

Obama is the 2nd part of the one / two punch attack. Between Obama and Bush hardly a hair’s breadth of difference, other than style and IQ. Which brings us to evil. Given that Obama knows what he is doing, he’s more evil than at least Bush.

A starling just few in the house. Or some kind of bird. The dogs thought it was a game. I turned off all of the lights and it flew out the front where the porch light was on. Excitment.

The Constitution allows each house to make there own procedural rules.

That’s exactly my point. The Democrat’s could change the rules tomorrow doing away with the need for supermajorities IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO. All they lack is the spine to do it. They’ve got 50 (or at least they claim to have 50) votes for a real, robust, public option. They’ve probably got 50 for a much better financial regulation bill than the one we’re likely going to end up with. The point is, they have the votes, right now, to make meaningful changes.

I would argue one of the most radical things this country ever did was invade a country which had not attacked us, or posed even a real threat. Yet that radical change got through the modern Senate. We used to have a real progressive taxation system (with top rates at one point over 90%), and those very real changes got through the modern Senate with it’s rules.

If the Democrats (and Obama) really wanted to make real change (Change We Could Believe In), they’ve got the votes, the Constitutional authority, and the public mandate (from the last election) to do it. They simply lack the will and the spine.

Not quite that bad.
Remember that Bush started the war during his first year, and didn’t do much of anything else except cutting brush.

All they lack is the spine to do it

It is not a matter of spine. They are doing what they want to do.

yes. Suzanne, too. We lived several blocks from one another but, of course, didn’t know it. 1974ish.

Had to be tough.

Some student suggested to Obama legalizing prostitution. He should have framed it in a manner such as: Given that prostitution on the floors of both chambers is legal, why is it not given the same status among the population? Plays on healthcare as well.

Oh yea, at that party US Rep. Ryan(d) was machine gunned to death.

For the unaware, I neglected to mention that Moscone, (Mayor) & Milk (Councilman) were assassinated by a protecting & servering former member of the fucking POLICE,,, who, based on his training & experience, climbed in through a window of the city hall, in order to avoid metal detectors.

I am very careful with the use of the word progressive. To me it means an activist who is pushing to advance the country to the left. I think many Democrats have stolen this term because they let “liberal” get turned into a dirty word by the right.

This is too much. White was a murderer, and he could have just as well been the City Hall gardener.
It was not about being a cop, it was about being a killer.

Soon enough we’ll all call ourselves Socialists, which is fine by me.

I agree but some of the police and fire depts had support Dan White t-shirts and bumper stickers. (I do actually have a lot of respect for those professions)

Totally agreed.
Presidential campaigns are the biggest marketing campaigns in the country, or even world. People around the world (excluding those the US is still hurting) bought into the same marketing crap about Obama that Americans did and still do. The campaigns are intentionally deceitful. Remember, Bush also 1st ran as a different kind of guy, the “Compassionate Conservative” who wanted to unite, not divide. Being both different (change), and a “uniter” has been a common presidential marketing theme for decades, well, for those who want to win.

Those unions would have loved for him to be judged insane, which he eventually was – the “Twinkie defense.” But they never, to my recollection, claimed he was innocent of the killings.

Edit: pardon me, not responsible for the homicides…

But

He was not a gardener.
He was a councilman who quit his post in a fit of pique.
When he decided to change his mercurial mind, he was rejected by Moscone, probably because he was an unreliable quitter. (remind you of some current unstable personality)
He then decided to get his revenge against Moscone by emptying his revolver into the Mayor.
Just to prove he wasn’t a fag, Dan White, former policeman, reloaded & went down the hall into an office where he shot Harvey Milk,,, as nice & humble a politician as ever was.

Don’t give gardeners a bad rap please.

I think it was a gay/liberal hatred that still lived quite strongly in S.F.

Endgame for me tonight. Plus, I’ve been invited out to dinner. If I put on some mascara, maybe I’ll get lucky and “get some” later.
Night all.

Gee, all this time I thought demi was married.

cwolf: which relates to his former status as a police officer how? Proximity to firearms?

mary: It lives there still.

I already do. Somewhere between democratic socialist and libertarian socialist (like Chomsky, not Libertarian Party).

Lives everywhere.

I was 24 when I first moved to S.F. I was shocked to find out how conservative and small it was. And that is where DiFi hails from.

It’s also a nice place to observe America’s growing economic problems. Homeless, poor, drug addicts everywhere unless you’re in a mega-expensive nice pocket away from the city center.

David Dayen is upstairs!
Bernanke Holds Are Harry Reid’s Problem, Not Chris Dodd’s

Yep. That’s the guy. My mister. Still takes me out.
Want me to bring you back some garlic bread or something?

Yes! And dancing music, baby.

State of Mind.

The police were opposed to Moscone at the time (cuz-e-wuz a librul) and they positively hated Milk. (cuz-e-wuz a queer)

White dwelled in a perverted subculture, the police, where murder was openly prescribed as a panacea to their problems.
A few of them were unbalanced enough to take that obsessive chatter to heart and act it out.
It would likely never have occurred to danny boy to murder anyone if he really had been the City Hall Gardner.

When the moon meets your eye, like a big pizza pie…that’s….Dancing!
Bye bye.

Wasn’t White also a fireman at one point?

Wasn’t White also a fireman at one point?

That rings a distant bell, but I really don’t remember.

It does seem though that he was an inadequate & frustrated wanna-be super hero.

Anyhow, that’s where DiFi came from.

Restmypeace

Just looked it up. He was and gained fame due to a rescue of a mother and baby from the 7th story of a SF building.

The bell is ringing louder.

This is NOT the first WH effort to affect the Senate outcome. The White House has had its finger on the scales from the beginning. Orszag attended the Gang of Six meetings for weeks, and the WH was effusive in praise of what he/Baucus had achieved. And the WH attended the Harry Reid meetings. There has been no “hands off” approach, at any time.

THANK YOU, Scarecrow. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I doubt your points there can ever be made enough.

Many more thanks to you for your amazing posting pace, dedicated bird-dogging coverage, and patient perseverance throughout the long, often-backroom, development of these health reform bills.

[Thank you, too, cwolf @ 80. The filibuster is about all that's left, in practice, of the original systemic Congressional checks and balances that James Madison helped design, thanks to the Parties increasingly undermining them at every opportunity. Or are we really supposed to blame James Madison, as oldgold advocates, because Congress - in a process I obviously missed - with enormous deliberative effort and lengthy months of debate, that overcame minority filibuster after minority filibuster, after objection..., gave almost a trillion dollars of our taxes and new debt away last year, unsupervised, to Wall Street, via the TARP legislation demanded by the White House. Or because Congress similarly, in 2002, with an evenly-divided Senate, finally, at long, long last, and only after in-depth negotiation and study, overcame great resistance to give the President the blanket, unsupervised authority he sought to decide whether or not to invade Iraq in our names (for the next 8-plus years). You know, all that "incremental progress" toward its (corporate) agenda that Congress (must be) justly famous for, as opposed to the sweeping regressive change a lack of Senate super-majorities was, apparently, intended to effect.]

Here’s the End Game for old folks under ObamaCare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs

Lord.

But the climate you describe would have led to bodies of Liberals and Gays stacked like cord wood. And your suggestion that a prescription for the SFPD’s hatred of a certain factions paints them as purely lawless. That has not been my experience at all, and I have lived in or near SF for all but 11 of my 51 years.

I know a lot of SF cops, and the straight ones tend to dismiss those they don’t have a political agreement with. But they are not killers, and they do not see killing as an means to a political or societal grievance.

I know…

Oh god, not the “some of my best friends are cops defense”

Most of the gunshot killings in the US are committed by the police.
Almost all of the street electrocutions (by taser) are committed by the police.
If you are one of them they probably won’t fuck you up. Otherwise – don’t get between one & his doughnut.

I have had a couple of rotten experiences with sf cops. I worked in the security dept of Mt. Zion. Racist and sexist. Not all. They scared the poo out of me several times.

If you think Dan White’s cop-fueled hatred drove him to kill, you are entitled. Dude was a sick fuck, and it was going to be his enemies in City Hall, or his wife and kids, or the paper boy.

In my experience, you are wrong.

Street electrocutions? Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

Mmmm. Dude was a sick fuck,

No argument there,,,
and we’d all be better off if he had murdered his wife and kids

Then Moscone instead of DiFi would likely be the nth term Senator from California.

Don’t know what the kids are calling them but if you google Digby & taser or greenwald & taser you’ll catch some links to smarts on the subject.

Wifey and kids die for the greater good.
OK, now I get where you are coming from.

Never thought of it like that. How Xtian.

Lisa Derrick is upstairs!
Skate Diplomacy for Cuba?

President BiPartisan is heading for Congress to tell the evil libr’uls to give the GOP what it wants.

It’s hard to kiss their asses all the way from the White House.

Some people are saying this bill can be improved later, like Social Security and Medicare. But that comparison flatters Reid’s bill, which entrenches a wasteful private sector of the economy. Those bills did just the opposite. And while it’s a fact the bill could be improved upon, that’s also a hazardous political calculation. In my opinion, we should start over. There are other ways to get this done, and they’re better. It’s becoming increasingly unlikely this bill can be filibustered, but if it could be, it would take Sanders, Brown and Burris teaming up with Republicans.

We have a shadow government in the US. It sells hamburgers, turkey, insurance, credit cards, whiskey, etc. We can do something about this at http://democratz.org

Unless you do something about this shadow government, you will continue to have to sit on the sidelines and complain about the nasty things that they do to Americans.

This healthcare bill will look like a huge version of Medicare Part D that did not help the middle class and to this day has not gotten improved.

We have a shadow government in the US. It sells hamburgers, turkey, insurance, credit cards, whiskey, etc. We can do something about this at http://democratz.org

Unless you do something about this shadow government, you will continue to have to sit on the sidelines and complain about the nasty things that they do to Americans.

Perhaps Obama is worse than Cheney in this sense. It is said that thee is no more dangerous prctitioner than one who misrepresents himself.

A poorly trained doctor who passes himself off as well trained can wreak havoc. Perhaps even more havoc than one one who makes no bones as to who and what he is.

Obama presented himself as an agent of change that would benefit the many. He misrepresented himself and when elected he did the bidding of the monied few. For this he is condemnable for what he has done and for falsely passing himself off in order to accomplish what he intended all along.

Worse than Cheney, well that goes too far, but in Cheney we knew all along what his purpose was, he at least is what he claims to be. Not so with Obama.

I think we should not place any importance on Obama’s contributions into the HCR process at this late date. We know already that he has been an inept bystander that watched the PO vanish into near oblivion and did not lift a finger when it counted.

He should get only blame for his lack of effort thus far and absolutely no credit if the PO remains. Of course he will crow if a PO is passed but he will be fooling only himself.

I think opinions about this pretender have hardened and I am sure sure that this latest effort, like those that preceded, will be a huge disappointment.