Russ Feingold made a fairly dramatic claim in a statement yesterday – he said that the President was essentially responsible for the loss of the public option:
I’ve been fighting all year for a strong public option to compete with the insurance industry and bring health care spending down. I continued that fight during recent negotiations, and I refused to sign onto a deal to drop the public option from the Senate bill. Unfortunately, the lack of support from the administration made keeping the public option in the bill an uphill struggle. Removing the public option from the Senate bill is the wrong move, and eliminates $25 billion in savings. I will be urging members of the House and Senate who draft the final bill to make sure this essential provision is included.
Today on MSNBC, Howard Dean was asked if he agreed with Feingold’s statement that the Obama Administration bore responsibility for the public option’s removal. He was unequivocal. “Yes” was his one-word answer.
Nate Silver argues that there wasn’t much Obama could have done in this regard. He says that too many Senators opposed the public option for Obama to overcome. But he does agree with the overriding sentiment that progressives are making when they say this: Obama was unwilling to actually fight for any specific policies or put a marker down on any of them, outsourcing the legislating responsibility to Congress and failing to use his political capital for any particular provision. As a result, Obama spent his time arguing for amorphous “reform,” which sowed “confusion among our public,” as Jim Webb put it.
The fact that Joe Lieberman is out there today saying that the White House never pressed him about the public option (I should note that we have no idea whether or not that’s true, and Lieberman could just be trying to shift the blame) just adds to the frustration among liberals about the President’s governing style. Drew Westen (my former psychology professor, if I can add some personal biographical info) expertly describes this today in a long piece at the Huffington Post:
Somehow the president has managed to turn a base of new and progressive voters he himself energized like no one else could in 2008 into the likely stay-at-home voters of 2010, souring an entire generation of young people to the political process. It isn’t hard for them to see that the winners seem to be the same no matter who the voters select (Wall Street, big oil, big Pharma, the insurance industry). In fact, the president’s leadership style, combined with the Democratic Congress’s penchant for making its sausage in public and producing new and usually more tasteless recipes every day, has had a very high toll far from the left: smack in the center of the political spectrum.
What’s costing the president and courting danger for Democrats in 2010 isn’t a question of left or right, because the president has accomplished the remarkable feat of both demoralizing the base and completely turning off voters in the center. If this were an ideological issue, that would not be the case. He would be holding either the middle or the left, not losing both.
What’s costing the president are three things: a laissez faire style of leadership that appears weak and removed to everyday Americans, a failure to articulate and defend any coherent ideological position on virtually anything, and a widespread perception that he cares more about special interests like bank, credit card, oil and coal, and health and pharmaceutical companies than he does about the people they are shafting.
The problem is not that his record is being distorted. It’s that all three have more than a grain of truth. And I say this not as one of those pesky “leftists.” I say this as someone who has spent much of the last three years studying what moves voters in the middle, the Undecideds who will hear whichever side speaks to them with moral clarity.
These real political problems were magnified in the public option fight. Obama appears to have not cared about anything substantive on the reform other than acquiring it, and to do so he bought off stakeholders to keep them at bay. Let’s be honest that this has resulted in coming closer to achieving a health care bill than any President in history. But the remnants that compose the bill, and the associated political fallout, are a direct result of the leadership issues Westen identifies.
This style is already causing cracks among the progressive base and among members of the political class, as we see with Feingold and Dean. I don’t think it’s a sustainable strategy for the long term.



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It’s absolutely not sustainable–for the progressive segment. But why is it not sustainable for a triangulating president/party focused on corporate support and dealmaking regardless of the content of those deals?
I’d add the old truism: Where.else.is.the.left.going.to.go.
The left can go here.
http://bit.ly/public_option and here http://www.democratz.org
There appears your answer.
Obama and health insurance reform go together like an abused spouse and a philandering husband. If Obama was never committed to any particular feature, lest he be painted into a negotiating corner, he was always going to get lobbyists leftovers. (What a great strategy: want nothing so that anything you get is a “victory”. Even LBJ had a better strategy for “winning” in Vietnam.)
A more likely scenario is that Obama was very committed to health insurance reform, but only so long as it did not reform the role or lessen the power of insurers. He got what he worked for, in this Senate bill.
It doesn’t take a genius to realize that, if legislation is going to go into law that reverses one of the most serious campaign pledges of the current White House occupant, that he was assuredly deeply involved in making the legislation. Otherwise, we would have heard the word “veto” by now. Instead, Obama is up on a podium smiling with Max Baucus behind him.
Welcome to the HOPE A DOPE!!!
Barack Obama is no Progressive or Democrat!
The elites feared that a real progressive could win in 2008, so they rigged the game in their favor. They found an actor name Barack Obama, his job was to win an OSCAR for acting like a Progressive. (remember Ronald Reagan)
The SENATE BILL is the BILL BARACK OBAMA always wanted.
The SENATE BILL is a Republican Bill. (due to the Bush, the corporate elites knew Dems would win in 2008, Health Care stocks are SOARING!!!)
The MSM is trying to call this BILL a Progressive Bill, and they know it is a Republican Bill. (all you have to do is look at the stock market)
The OWNERSHIP CLASS LOVES THIS BILL! (they don’t vote progressive)
Progressives need to make sure that the MASSES know this is not a Progressive BILL! (Rush limbaugh is yelling all over the place how this is a liberal Bill, Rush works for the Ownership Class)
THE HOPE A DOPE!
Barack Obama is a ConserverDem/Republican so he can careless if Dems win 2010.
Progressives must work toward electing Real Progressives in 2010.
If not the ConserverDems & Rahm Emmanuel win.
Remember in 2011 the troops come home, and CANDIDATE OBAMA will RETURN and tell all PROGRESSIVES how he love US. He will shout about how he hates the Republicans, and they are holding him back from being a real Progressive.
Once re-elected in 2012 he will screw us again. (Barack Obama is betting that progressives will hate a GOP congress, Of course Barack Obama can care less, because he is a Republican)
Guess when the MANDATES become Law 2014! The elites hope the MANDATE will kill the chances of a REAL PROGRESSIVE GETTING ELECTED IN 2016.
Progressives need to ORGANIZED!
Please don’t yell. I already have a headache.
No wonder D.C. Democrats are blasting Dean: he hasn’t lost his guts or his principles.
There is really also little difference between both parties on the Health Care.
Neither side has ever approved any serious changes in our sick health care system. Wall street has had a good read on the politics of this issue. That not much on any change would occur and because of that health care stocks have lead everything this year.
It is easy to be a Monday morning quarterback, but it now seems clear that Obama and his blind supporters have really messed up this issue. The Senate bill should be junked. A fresh start beginning with the championing of a single payer plan would be best for America.
And you’re probably closer to the truth than anyone else.
I seriously doubt Obama is the problem. He’s the symptom of the corporate takeover of the USA.
We now have good old-fashioned fascism which the elites have wanted since Hitler.
We saw what happened to JFK when HE went off the reservation. And Clinton when he didn’t implement NAFTA as fast as the goons wanted him too.
Here lately, the SS has been showing”O” a little of what could happen with the Salahis..I figure.
We get the candidates approved by Bilderberg, Trilateral and the Council on Foreign Relations.
Tell you the truth, I sorta feel sorry for the guy…he prolly just wanted to be president and hoped he could do some good.
But it’s the corporate takeover and the church in my book.
What is the difference, if any, between Hillarycare and Liebercare?
I don’t comment much anymore, but just wanted to say that you’re doing a great job here, David. Great catch on the Westen piece, he really nails Obama’s leadership failures.
Ironically, as Huffpo is reporting, LIEberman is backing Russ’s story…! WTF…?
gone, gone, gone, we already gone.
that truism is less and less true every day, and it is about time. you’ll see in 2010 and 2012.
more and more firepups seem to be venturing outside the (D) captured blogosphere, so here are a couple good recent reads on the subject:Ian Welsh and David Michael Green on the subject.
I guess this leads to the inevitable question of whether the POTUS is the “black” Bush or the “white” Clinton.
I don’t understand. What do you mean?
Well, if you’d told me that Russ Feingold and Howard Dean would agree with Joe Lieberman on anything other than the day of the week, I’m not sure I would believe you. On the other hand, it’s great to see this President unifying disparate elements of the Democratic coalition behind his failure of leadership.
It’s almost bipartisan-y since the GOP dislikes his leadership so much.
I don’t think discussions of the President’s race lend much to this.
Earlier today the Truly Great Jane invited some of us old lurkers to de-lurk. I have mostly lurked since the Scooter trial, with a few rare expressed opinions.
I first came across the HuffPost article by Prof. Westen via Hullabaloo today. I think it is the best summary I have read about our current political scramble. Absent the exhibition of some real balls and conviction by Obama, I need someone else to believe in, and I look forward to the next presidential primary.
Thanks to DDay for his prodigious contributions to FDL.
old dog
I wonder what ORhama thinks the reason for losing ground in all areas of support really are. I wish he’s wipe that smile off his face, he certainly has nothing to smile about.
How do these people sleep at night?
Obama believes the GOP when they say he won the election based on a cult of personality. It does not matter what he said to get elected he would say anything to get elected most politicians do.
Wrong most politicians do not openly betray their base in such a big way.
Also Obama won because of ideas not personalty after the banking crisis we could have won with Dennis! The ideas were mostly that Bush was wrong about everything and we needed to stop the war, get healthcare, get a real job stimulus program.
Take away the ideas and you take away Obama’s support.
The Westen piece should go viral.
Obama had a chance to get first prize (the Cadillac) and settled for second (the steak knives). The populus was on board for a public option. The economy was is trouble at least partially because of the US dysfunctional health care system. The pieces were in place, he could have reached for something better and he took an easier way. FDR, LBJ, JFK, Truman were all willing to take great risks for a better US and succeeded, he doesn’t seem to want to do that.
That is a very good question it would tell us something of his mindset and if we knew that we could predict him better.
Also just who is selling him on these policies we assume Rahm is the honest Iago in this play but there may be more than one villain.
Oh Jane is going on the MSNBC tee vee machine.
No tv here so please give up the details:)
We must begin to narrow our focus to the model our economic system is based on and use all the tools we have to change that. Currently, no matter the issue being addressed in the making and interpreting of the law, how it impacts multional corporate power is the primary concern of our the people in our government.
Lord even with the feeble defense of the failure of Copenhagen Obama said the representatives of “the major economies of the world met.” Say what now we have even given up the names of our nations in favor of some economic entity.
I posted this link the other day also. This is just a local guy but I think his thoughtful commentary is on target.
We all have perhaps missed better opportunities to counter the disgrace of the health insurance legislation in too often talking about the needs of real people, distinct from the power given the insurance industry.
He is like a point guard who shoots well from 3 point range but is afraid to drive into the paint because he will get pushed around. I want a Pres who’ll mix it up and lead when it is needed and necessary. I want a Pres who’ll cowboy up.
And just now on the Senate floor, Senator Tom Coburn approvingly read Markos’s recent remarks (either at DailyKos – which Coburn pronounced correctly – or in his Sunday TV appearance) criticizing this bill as “not health reform and not insurance reform,” etc., into the Congressional Record, saying Kos was someone very much “respected” by the majority side of the aisle who’s now saying some of the same things about the bill that the Senate Republicans are.
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2_rm.aspx
Fricking-A
old dog
Ed agrees with Jane. “It is immoral to force people to pay for insurance they don’t want.”. “It is a victory for Aetna.”
Of course I think the worst thing about this most recent corporate entitlement, is that Joe Lieberliar is getting his revenge by destroying the Democratic Party. Plus he and his wife get paid well by the Health Lobbyists, to successfully destroy healthcare.
The Dems and Obama have not done one thing to fix our mostly unverifiable privatized voting system since tkaing control I suspect the “owners” are already messaging that he will be re-$elected regardless of what the left or progressives think. Obama knows where his bread is buttered, and who really owns his ass.
Huh? The Executive Branch “outsourced” its responsibility for writing legislation to the Legislative Branch of government?
I must have missed the Constitutional amendment that could allow for such a characterization of our system of government. Besides which, from all the evidence I’ve seen, that’s actually the inverse of what has actually transpired, and is still transpiring, here: The Legislative Branch has in fact “outsourced” its Constitutional responsibility for writing legislation to the Executive Branch (behind closed doors, of course).
See now this is why I shouldn’t eat in front of the computer. Thanks hank, now I have to clean corn off my monitor! ROTFLMAO!
But to answer your question, “is he the “black” Bush or the “white” Clinton”, I think the answer is both. I think both is happinin at the same time. /gump
Thank You:)
They are not saying it but the dems are scared as hell we wont vote in 2010 and 2012. Our only leverage against the big dollar corporations is our vote and sadly it seems not using it is more powerful than using it. Letting democrats lose is the only way progressives are going to get respect. If they treat us like this when they need our vote imagine what they will do when they really dont need.
Obama and Rahm are prbly banking on having a republican congress to run against. So what if they lose some dem seats the important thing is Obama keeping his seat.
“Mission accomplished” on health care reform.
The president’s race is GREEN as in the almighty dollar.
He ain’t black, he ain’t white, he’s capitalist through and through.
Obama’s 2012 reelection campaign slogans:
* A Laissez Faire Style of Leadership You Can Believe In
* Yes We Maybe Can Work Something Out If At All Possible
* The Audacity of Hokum
Woohoo! Can’t wait,
- Tom
Someone from Rahm’s office will take the envelope, thank you.
Uncle Tomobama
Indeed. He has proven that scoundrels come in all colors.
Okay, it’s Obama’s fault. I agree. More importantly- can Feingold get a PO back in conference?
Yeah, you totally missed Teddy’s point.
No, I got it, I just thought it was trite.
I just keep thinking of the photo of Rahm thumbing his nose.
Since when as a chief of staff made policy statements when the president was overseas…. contrary to Obama’s statements …not that it makes much difference. Since Obama changes his own fairly regularly.Seems pretty clear to me. “Obama is being threatened, blackmailed or both.” He was too smart in the campaign to continually do such stupid political stunts.
If McCain had been elected , the revolution would have already begun. We are being played.Our president has been hijacked by rahm, hill and bill. She still thinks she can win an election.
First you destroy the intellectuals, then you enslave the illiterate masses.
I’ve been trying to deny a right wing populist backlash that would be effective, but I’m afraid that Ian’s read you shared has me considerably worried.
The corporate structure is USING the right wing backlash to help neuter and marginalize the left, be they centrists, progs, libs.
Once the intellectuals are vanquished, the illiterate are easily ensnared with bright shiny objects held forth, one issue at a time from abortion, to SS, to Medicare.
Okay, here we go again. Bush’s failure to even get a single hearing from a republican congress following his ’05 state of the union centerpiece proposal to privatize social security – I’m sure most here remember: ‘I’ve earned political capital and now I’m going to spend it’ – clearly marked the turning of the political tide.
Katrina, rising opposition in Iraq, the on-going Plame, Abu-Gharib, etc scandals, etc all added to the tide flowing away from the repugs. BHO, a newly minted senator in ’04 riding his (oh so unique) opposition to the war, cleverly saw the opening with the failure of the congressional dems after Nov. ’06 to mount a real opposition. The rest is history. Having ridden to a ‘historic’ victory by stoking expectations of ‘change you can believe in’, early outliers, such as his 180 on renewing the patriot act and letting the telecoms go scott-free for their role in domestic spying (actually illegal), led some of us to feel a little disquiet. His post-election economic appointments were an extraordinary about-turn from his campaign rhetoric. His reappointments of repug leftovers in the national security arena were of a piece. His ‘pardon’ of Joe (‘he’s with us in everything but the war’) was in line with his post-election failure to campaign against Chambis, when that scumbag was held to a run-off in Georgia, blowing any real chance of a genuine 60 vote caucus.
He has done everything I feared. He has mounted the tiger of expections, draging the congressional dems with him. It’s difficult to believe that someone so ‘cool’, ‘urbane’, ‘complex’, ‘thoughtful’, ‘intelligent’, (ad neauseam) could be so stupid. Having exposed his inexperience, his inability to exert himself, his juvenile desire to be loved by everyone, we progressives are now watching to see when the tiger throws and then devours him.
Luckily for us, the structural decline of the repugs means that any setbacks will likely be temporary. However, as I have warned here all too often, his failure may starts the dems down the same road as the repugs where their internal contradictions have led to centrifugal forces literally ripping them apart. The risks of this happening to us will grow significantly with the failure of real health care reform. We need to opposse him openly as Kennedy did to Carter. Our failure then led to disaster when king Ronnie started us down the dark path from which we have yet to escape.
Given the choice between one party that doesn’t want the government to do anything except fund the military, and one that serves as the midwife of a corporate state in addition to its militarist aims I would have to choose the former. The Democrats are a bunch of vaginas, and I wish upon them an eternity of darkness.
Good. They need to read OUR words into the record and Jane’s in particular to go right there alongside Markos’.
When you are right, you are right and even a Rethuglican, like a broken clock, can accidently be right now and again.
I really hope Markos doesn’t respond negatively to this use of his words by trying to walk it back to avoid seeming to be on the GOPer side on this. The GOPers are against the bill for totally greedy and bizarre reasons, our reasons are based on…reason and actual thought. But the enemy of my enemy is my friend is a tactic that works when used properly.
I think it is less a case of Feingold and Dean agreeing with Lieberman than is is Lieberman trying to weasel his way out of taking the hit he so richly deserves on scuttling any real reform. The man is nothing less than a slime ball without an ounce of courage. Now that the Senate has passed the corporation protection give away Health Care bill Lieberman is trying to ingratiate himself with the public by pretending to be a Democrat concerned with helping people and not corporations. Feingold and Dean are the real thing; Lieberman is a putz and anyone who believes him is a schlemiel.
Nice history lesson. I agree with your thoughts on Obama. But remember how well it worked out when Carter was weakened–we ended up with Reagan. I’m all for openly challenging Obama on his betrayals, even for a primary challenge in 2012. But we lose the game if we focus on Obama. He’ll bend with the wind. To change the wind, we need to purge the Congress of centrists, be they Republicans or Democrats. They’re all corporate-owned and mostly unprincipled. The way to do this is NOT to give voice to extreme leftists, but to appeal to the moderates and independents who wrongly believe voting for a moderate centrist will lead to reasonable legislation designed to help everyday working Americans. These voters are swayed by facts, but are not informed because they work 60 hours a week and don’t have time to read much past the MSM headlines and the cable tv circus acts. Centrist candidates must be taken out in the primaries for progressives to have any realistic expectations for improvement.