Comments on: As Procedural Votes Continue In Senate, Louise Slaughter (D-NY) Says “Kill The Bill” http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/as-procedural-votes-continue-in-senate-louise-slaughter-d-ny-says-kill-the-bill/ Sat, 18 Feb 2012 05:16:50 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: middlerd http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/as-procedural-votes-continue-in-senate-louise-slaughter-d-ny-says-kill-the-bill/#comment-10512 middlerd Fri, 25 Dec 2009 16:34:02 +0000 http://news.firedoglake.com/?p=2530#comment-10512 Do you guys have ADD? :) I was pointing to the excuses made by the idiots at DKos and if you had had the patience to read my complete post, you would have noticed I said "I am so tired of these JACKASSES I dont even want to go to DKos anymore". Wow! I was sick of the Obama workship there, and come here only to be yelled at by people who don't even have the ability to read a complete post. If this is the kind of reading you do, it says a lot about the "facts" you recite. Gawd! Do you guys have ADD? :) I was pointing to the excuses made by the idiots at DKos and if you had had the patience to read my complete post, you would have noticed I said “I am so tired of these JACKASSES I dont even want to go to DKos anymore”. Wow! I was sick of the Obama workship there, and come here only to be yelled at by people who don’t even have the ability to read a complete post. If this is the kind of reading you do, it says a lot about the “facts” you recite. Gawd!

]]> By: roknich http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/as-procedural-votes-continue-in-senate-louise-slaughter-d-ny-says-kill-the-bill/#comment-10510 roknich Fri, 25 Dec 2009 04:05:34 +0000 http://news.firedoglake.com/?p=2530#comment-10510 middlerd may have been off target, but wields a mean torch -:) especially the part about the State of California being to weak to regulate its own insurance giants. Why did we have anti-trust laws? They are too big too exist. Experience should have taught us by now that anti-trust laws, like any other laws they need to be enforced routinely - not merely out of political expedience. If the nature of health care means that health insurance should have an exception to the anti-trust laws, then this is an argument for the government to run it. Obama does not have the guts to restore the FDR legacy, much less extend it, thats why the health care debate has been a joke - except for the progress made in the House. And I'm glad to see Louise Slaughter is ready to defend the progress that has been made. middlerd may have been off target, but wields a mean torch -:)
especially the part about the State of California being to weak to regulate its own insurance giants. Why did we have anti-trust laws?
They are too big too exist.

Experience should have taught us by now that anti-trust laws, like any other laws they need to be enforced routinely – not merely out of political expedience.

If the nature of health care means that health insurance should have an exception to the anti-trust laws, then this is an argument for the government to run it.

Obama does not have the guts to restore the FDR legacy, much less extend it, thats why the health care debate has been a joke – except for the progress made in the House. And I’m glad to see Louise Slaughter is ready to defend the progress that has been made.

]]> By: middlerd http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/as-procedural-votes-continue-in-senate-louise-slaughter-d-ny-says-kill-the-bill/#comment-10508 middlerd Thu, 24 Dec 2009 23:06:39 +0000 http://news.firedoglake.com/?p=2530#comment-10508 Perhaps you should read the comments properly before throwing flames. I was listing the excuses from the Obama crowd for the bill, not providing cover for Obama. And seriously, even if that was me, this is how you want to react? Just jump out there with guns blazing? Great way to win people over to your side, I gotta say. Next time read the comments fully before calling someone names. Perhaps you should read the comments properly before throwing flames. I was listing the excuses from the Obama crowd for the bill, not providing cover for Obama. And seriously, even if that was me, this is how you want to react? Just jump out there with guns blazing? Great way to win people over to your side, I gotta say. Next time read the comments fully before calling someone names.

]]> By: madma http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/as-procedural-votes-continue-in-senate-louise-slaughter-d-ny-says-kill-the-bill/#comment-10396 madma Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:03:20 +0000 http://news.firedoglake.com/?p=2530#comment-10396 Franken as a progressive is a myth. he got 335,000 fewer votes in Mn than Obama. Those were informed progressives who stood on principle and refused to vote for the DLC (corporate democrat.) Franken as a progressive is a myth. he got 335,000 fewer votes in Mn than Obama. Those were informed progressives who stood on principle and refused to vote for the DLC (corporate democrat.)

]]> By: kyeo http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/as-procedural-votes-continue-in-senate-louise-slaughter-d-ny-says-kill-the-bill/#comment-10394 kyeo Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:35:44 +0000 http://news.firedoglake.com/?p=2530#comment-10394 Easy there, killer. Easy there, killer.

]]> By: chitowner http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/as-procedural-votes-continue-in-senate-louise-slaughter-d-ny-says-kill-the-bill/#comment-10392 chitowner Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:25:49 +0000 http://news.firedoglake.com/?p=2530#comment-10392 Right Louise. Sure. Agree with all you say. Now we'll see if your friend Nancy puts you on the conference committee so you can stick up for it. Let's not hold our breath though, honey. Right Louise. Sure. Agree with all you say. Now we’ll see if your friend Nancy puts you on the conference committee so you can stick up for it. Let’s not hold our breath though, honey.

]]> By: Praedor http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/as-procedural-votes-continue-in-senate-louise-slaughter-d-ny-says-kill-the-bill/#comment-10368 Praedor Thu, 24 Dec 2009 02:45:46 +0000 http://news.firedoglake.com/?p=2530#comment-10368 You are such a pathetic SUCKER. Regulated? REGULATED!? By the STATES, which are pathetically weak. California's own state regulator has admitted to being too weak to take on the insurance companies in California and they're the most powerful. Sheesh. No Federal regulation, no price controls, NO limits on deductibles and copays, no premium control, nothing to stop adverse selection (sticking the sick and old into HIGH cost insurance while still forcing the young and PERFECTLY healthy to pay premiums they don't need nor want. Piss off with your "reform". You are such a pathetic SUCKER.

Regulated? REGULATED!? By the STATES, which are pathetically weak. California’s own state regulator has admitted to being too weak to take on the insurance companies in California and they’re the most powerful.

Sheesh. No Federal regulation, no price controls, NO limits on deductibles and copays, no premium control, nothing to stop adverse selection (sticking the sick and old into HIGH cost insurance while still forcing the young and PERFECTLY healthy to pay premiums they don’t need nor want.

Piss off with your “reform”.

]]> By: middlerd http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/as-procedural-votes-continue-in-senate-louise-slaughter-d-ny-says-kill-the-bill/#comment-10365 middlerd Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:58:58 +0000 http://news.firedoglake.com/?p=2530#comment-10365 1. There are some benefits(no denial based on pre existing conditions,...) 2. It is better than status quo 3. The government will heavily regulate the industry now 4. It is negative oppose it and they want to stay positive. I am so tired of the jackasses, I don't even want to go there anymore :( Maybe I am just cynical, but I think the WH will lean on this lady too and she will back off as well. Who knew Obama was just a slimmer Hillary Clinton? 1. There are some benefits(no denial based on pre existing conditions,…)
2. It is better than status quo
3. The government will heavily regulate the industry now
4. It is negative oppose it and they want to stay positive.

I am so tired of the jackasses, I don’t even want to go there anymore :(

Maybe I am just cynical, but I think the WH will lean on this lady too and she will back off as well.

Who knew Obama was just a slimmer Hillary Clinton?

]]> By: jackbuddha http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/as-procedural-votes-continue-in-senate-louise-slaughter-d-ny-says-kill-the-bill/#comment-10364 jackbuddha Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:48:25 +0000 http://news.firedoglake.com/?p=2530#comment-10364 I know. When I got a vasectomy after my daughter was born, there were no women outside the urologist's office yelling "spermurderer" either. Most men I've known are fine with their partners getting hysterectomies or taking weird pills, but say vasectomies are mutilation. I know. When I got a vasectomy after my daughter was born, there were no women outside the urologist’s office yelling “spermurderer” either. Most men I’ve known are fine with their partners getting hysterectomies or taking weird pills, but say vasectomies are mutilation.

]]> By: solerso http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/as-procedural-votes-continue-in-senate-louise-slaughter-d-ny-says-kill-the-bill/#comment-10363 solerso Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:47:48 +0000 http://news.firedoglake.com/?p=2530#comment-10363 so how are the obama fan boys and fan girls rationalizing for captain change now? so how are the obama fan boys and fan girls rationalizing for captain change now?

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