I think McClatchy gets this right – if there’s going to be an immediate consequence of the underpants bomber, it will be to effectively shut down the emptying of Guantanamo, particularly of the 80 or so remaining prisoners who are Yemeni nationals. They haven’t done anything newly wrong or been convicted – or even charged – with any crime, but they are now caught up in the politics of the moment, making their release seemingly impossible.
Nearly half of the 198 captives at Guantánamo are citizens of Yemen — also the ancestral home of Osama bin Laden — just south of Saudi Arabia.
“This is just disastrous for the Yemenis at Guantánamo,” said Washington, D.C. attorney David Remes, who over the years has defended 17 Yemeni detainees , some now slated for release.
Remes said an Obama administration task force has cleared for release “as many as 40 Yemenis” declared unfairly held or no longer threats, but that “the politics of the situation may make it impossible for the administration to send any Yemenis back to Yemen in the foreseeable future.”
You can already see the political implications of this in the fact that John McCain and his Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham, asked the President to stop the transfer of six Yemeni detainees who were already sent home a week ago. The McCain press aide’s response to her boss’ lack of knowledge is priceless:
The hitch: The six detainees were sent back to Yemen more than a week ago, according to a December 20 press release from the Justice Department.
A Justice Department spokesman, Matthew Miller, confirmed that the detainees had, in fact, been repatriated.
A spokeswoman for McCain, Brooke Buchanan, confirmed that the letter referred to the same six Yemenis, and said the gap in the senators’ knowledge raised questions about the administration’s communications with Congress.
Now that’s chutzpah.
I guess the Justice Department press release and coverage of the Yemeni release in every major newspaper isn’t enough for St. McCain, who needs personal communiques every time the government acts. I’m also personally upset that McCain doesn’t read FDL News.
Just in case you want a saner take on this, read the excerpt below from a Senior Administration Official. Unfortunately, a rare outbreak of sanity like this is not expected to hold – the same fear that could lead to unwise policy changes, restrictions and military action in Yemen are also likely to lead to innocent Yemenis continuing their stay in Gitmo.
Q — story that six Yemenis were returned just last week from Guantanamo Bay to Yemen. Is there enough faith in the Yemeni government to not — those guys won’t join back with al Qaeda?
SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: You know, we’ve been obviously working this through very aggressively. We’re making decisions based on a range of intelligence that we have and we’re obviously dealing with a situation that we’ve inherited as it relates to our ability to hold certain individuals. But we’re confident that any transfers that we’re making are being made not only consistent with our national security interests but also consistent with what we consider to be a fundamental national security interest in closing the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay.
I think that some of us were struck by the fact when al Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula itself was formed it was the conglomeration of two separate al Qaeda affiliates — when it was formed, one of the recruiting and motivational tools that it used in its initial announcement to generate sympathy for its cause as well as recruits was the facility at Guantanamo Bay.
So we continue to feel that this is in our national security interest to close. We feel that the way we’re closing it is advancing our national security interest goals, and that will continue to be the case.
Q Just to follow on that, you make this — everybody is going to get reviewed and Yemen’s ability to handle the transfer of a Gitmo — of a Yemeni Gitmo detainee will be taken into account before –
SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: That’s exactly what the law says at the moment; that’s exactly what the President made clear in the announcement of the review of each case last January; and that’s what, frankly, we’ve done with experienced intelligence and prosecutorial professionals over the course of this year –going through each of these cases with a fine-tooth comb.
Q There have been calls for — McCain, Lieberman and Graham issued a joint statement, wrote a letter to the President saying — called on any Yemeni nationals, transfers from Gitmo — that’s sort of a moot point because you wouldn’t be releasing them if you thought they were going to become terrorists. Is that — is that the way you responded, is that fair –
SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: I’ll just say what our policy is. I haven’t had the opportunity to catch up with that letter, but our policy is, as consistent with the law, that we’ll make transfers; we’ll notify Congress of the transfers; that we’ll make transfers consistent with our national security interests. And we believe that each of those that we have done so far enhances our national security.
I am aware of a lot of people pointing back at the way the transfers were handled under the Bush administration, that apparently they have some concerns about that. I didn’t hear many of those concerns at the time, but there were obviously hundreds and hundreds of detainees that were transferred under the old regime.
We are, as I suggested, going through this with a fine-tooth comb. But I also just hasten to add the bigger picture here which is that we believe closing Gitmo is in the national security interest of the country for the reasons I’ve just outlined.



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I’m surprised there isn’t more recidivism on the part of those who have been released from Gitmo. (Or I guess it technically isn’t recidivism if you didn’t do anything wrong to begin with.) I’d sure want revenge on the U.S. if I’d been tortured & kept in legal limbo for years.
Oh, and that senior administration official is full of crap. They aren’t closing Gitmo anyhow, but to the extent they’re doing anything different, they’re moving Gitmo to Illinois. A distinction without a difference, and I think AQ will not be fooled (although the U.S. public may be). O’s doing indefinite detentions, subjecting detainees to kangaroo courts, and has announced that even if KSM is not convicted, he is not going to be released. Seems like lots of ammo for AQ resentment there.
“the gap in the senators’ knowledge raised” questions about the Senators competence. As it should read. Letterman has got this Senators number. Our system of governing is in desperate need of change. I believe that someone said something about that not too far back. The Mussolini definition of fascism is corporate control of government. Are we a fascist society?
Ah yes, blowback’s a bitch. Didn’t any of those fools make the time to read Chalmers Johnson’s trilogy?
If I was looking to perpetuate an endless war to feed my buddies in the armaments industry, I couldn’t think of a better way to continually create new insurgents than by radicalizing as many Muslims as possible through a mechanism such as what we now have in place, including Gitmo. The only trick is walking the tight-wire between not pushing them hard enough, (resulting in a fall-off of new recruits) or pushing them too hard and alienating a government like Pakistan (one of our better customers)
Other than that, it’s a ready market to feed the war machine in perpetuity.
O’s 4 wars against Islam I guess are not good enough as a radicalizing tool. Gotta imprison innocent people forever and torture them, just to make sure.
These detainees have been so oppressed at Gitmo that I would not let them go back to indoctrinate or spread hate to others.
What would you do with them?
Wow!! I see the lunatic fringe is out in full force today…
In general, I agree with a lot of what Adam Serwer said on this
http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/12/28/guestpost-by-adam-serwer-on-the-meaning-of-christmas-bombfail/
The MSM is being comical when it comes to terrorism.
For example Chris Matthews yesterday kept screaming about how they hate us. We must do away with all our freedoms because they hate us.
None of the clowns of the MSM ever ask or thinks about the reasons they hate us.
Someone needs to say, when a tomahawk cruise missle kills your entire family, this usually leads one toward the options of revenge and wanting to kill the people who killed your family. (especially when everyone in your family was innocent)
The whole world and half of the USA knows the only reason the USA is in the mid-east fighting wars is for OIL.
Like someone said in an earlier post, what would USA citizens do if Iran had bases in the USA, so that they could take all of our coal?
Can the MSM just cool it with the war on terror BS. We all get it, since the cold war is over, the military industrial complex needs a new enemy.
The USA spend 1 trillion on defense, more than all the other nations on planet combine.
The great benefit of a war on terror, is that by definition it can never end. ask Dick Cheney
Money quote
I’m listening right now to the American attorney BEING INTERVIEWED ON INFOWARS.com, who, along with his wife and many others was an eyewitness to the well-dressed Indian man who got the “underwear bomber” on the plane. During the plane ride a man videotaped the ENTIRE EVENT with FOCUS ON THE NIGERIAN MAN THE WHOLE TIME. The witness is saying right now that the CIA laughed when he suggested that they produce or even look for the video. Time and time again this information is being kept from the American people, including many blogs today.I believe this information will eventually come out and that this is yet another hoax. After all their feigned support for informing the American people, the blogs are failing miserable today.
What is MUCH MORE important here is WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT UNCONCERNED ABOUT THE WELL-DRESSED INDIAN MAN, in Amsterdam, that accompanied the Nigerian man, insisting he get on the plane without a passport. When rejected at the gate, he insisted he speak with authorities, which, apparently, let it all happen.
This was originally reported by several eye-witnessess on CNN. And today on infowars an eyewitness will go into more detail on what he saw on the radio show.
Here is the video link… You can also get it at CNN.
http://www.infowars.com/bombshell-eyewitness-revelations-confirmed-fbi-cover-up-of-flight-253-attack/
Sorry to say, this whole thing stinks like 911. I just wish someone would do some actual investigative reporting rather than assist in duping the American people (again). There were many witnessess like this after 911 who were never contacted again. This, like 911, has all the signs of a false flag incident:
1. The suspect is obviously mentally challenged.
2. The suspects family is a very important banking family.
3. The US wants to “get into a war” in Nigeria because the people are winning the war against the exploitative international oil companies.
4. The suspect was escorted onto a plane by an Indian official, partners with the CIA.
This thing will unravel and this time the American people are onto it. But if anyone prefers sitting on the front porch waving a gun at the world, go for it.
Oy. Can we just try to look at known facts for awhile, before we jump on the misinfo and confusion that is what is first heard? For example, in first reports, passengers told reporters the suspect “set off firecrackers.” That was wrong. That sort of thing is usually wrong, which is why it was logical for the Pres. not to comment until things were in W. Cronkite’s phrase, “nailed down.” I see this story is turning into firm belief.
Schiphol authorities have confirmed that the suspect had not only his multi-entry, unrevoked visa, but a valid Nigerian passport.
There was no “well-dressed Indian man.”
Should there be some proof at some point, then we can get excited about it. Meanwhile, let’s stick to what we actually, really, do know.
I for one would not put anything pass the CIA.
Oil and Terror must be married to one another. maybe it is not about religion after all.
Gregg Levine has a new post up: “Right and Left Agree: Mandates are the Road to Neo-Feudalism”
I just finished reading “War Profiteering and the Concentration of Income and Wealth in America :http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5368
The general thesis of the article is that American militarism and associated industries have become an end in themselves. The author correlates the rise of militarism, high end income sequestration, and the decline of social programs very neatly. I find it interesting that just as we have the prospect of a new, social program dedicated to the lower and middle classes we have the “panty bomber” incident with all of its concomitant hysteria on the part of the right.
I believe that the next argument against expansion of health care we will see shall be one that we must devote more resources to fighting “terror” and not to providing health insurance to our citizens. If I were more of a conspiracy theorist I might begin to wonder if industrial interests and black ops in the US government are running some of the “radicalization” camps. How nice it would be to be able to strategically drop a “panty bomber” into the mix whenever one’s interests are threatened by programs for the proles.
I really don’t know what you are talking about.
Did you EVEN HEAR ME? Did you even WATCH the CNN video that interviewed the EYE WITNESSES that saw the INDIAN MAN? (who is now in custody also).
Do you know what an EYE WITNESS IS? Did you hear me when I told you that the witnesses ARE CLAIMING THERE IS A VIDEO OF THE WHOLE FLIGHT because THEY SAW IT BEING DONE?
WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH THE TRUTH? Uncomfortable? Too brain taxing?
Oh, well. Let’s wait until we get involved in another war with a false reason, lose thousands more American servicepersons, kill a whole bunch of innocent people in Yemen and North Africa. And, yet, all the time, the evidence is in front of you for a false flag incident, and you, for some reason, don’t even want to consider what eyewitnesses are saying. As long is it is you that is not killed, for no good reason, its ok?
I hope you see how morally bankrupt this is. Your fake sense of a balanced view does not trump eyewitnesses. Sorry. I don’t see any passengers on the news saying anything about hearing firecrackers. What I DO see are credible eyewitnesses, on the air for two days now, explaining what they saw and the CIA’s apparent knowledge and disinterest in investigating it. This was a badly-planned fake incident, no doubt about it.
Can someone explain to me the difference in a prison camp, prison,detention center et al in Cuba and one in Illinois? A Yemeni imprisoned in Cuba and one imprisoned in Illinois is different how? A Yemeni tried in a Federal court or military tribunal in Cuba and one in Illinois is different how? Just colder in the winter and what else? How stupid is this? We are more secure because they are in Cuba vs Illinois? Well that went out the window Christmas day now didn’t it? Who is stupid here….the terrorist in Yemen and Pakistan or Liberman/Graham/McCain? Seems clear to me that the terrorist are playing the US like a fiddle. I am embarrassed by the cowardice of Americans.
As Glenn Greenwald has noted, the lunatic fringe per our elites are those who actually believe in the Constitution.
I think you can see numerous examples of the grip on our economy that is maintained at the behest of the so-called “military-industrial complex.” The armaments industry has a very long history, war being one of Man’s world’s oldest pastimes. British journalist Anthony Sampson wrote a very illuminating work about the “defense” industry titled “The Arms Bazaar” that sheds a great light on an otherwise largely overlooked segment of the American corporate scene. There are also works about some of the oldest members of the war-apparatik like Krupp-Essen that show an industry that survives only by coninually fomenting conflict around the world in order to profit from it. The U.S, is a past master at this. Small wonder we lead the world in arms sales.
I’m always curious about the ‘politics of journalism’- meaning the differences in how different outlets cover various stories.
Today there is a giant march in Iran of people who are supporters of the government. There is a story in the Wash Post about it, although you have to scroll through their slide show to finally see that the size of the crowd is about a hundred times the size that the protesting crowds have been.
The story is on the front page at CNN too, but at the New York Times I don’t see it reported at all not even in the international edition. Curious if you see it there. Here’s a quote and link from CNN.
“Bozorgmehr, who watched the demonstrations from the sidelines, said that at Vali Asr square, the crowd was so dense he could not make his way through on foot. From a bridge, he overlooked an area from Imam Hossein Square to Revolution (Enghelab) Square, a distance of about 18 kilometers (11 miles).
There were “easily hundreds of thousands, if not over a million people,” he said. There also were protests in Tabriz, Shiraz, Arak, Gilan and Sistan-Baluchestan province, according to government-funded Press TVBozorgmehr, who watched the demonstrations from the sidelines, said that at Vali Asr square, the crowd was so dense he could not make his way through on foot. From a bridge, he overlooked an area from Imam Hossein Square to Revolution (Enghelab) Square, a distance of about 18 kilometers (11 miles).
There were “easily hundreds of thousands, if not over a million people,” he said. There also were protests in Tabriz, Shiraz, Arak, Gilan and Sistan-Baluchestan province, according to government-funded Press TV”
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/12/30/iran.rallies/index.html
well, if you listen to the idiots on Fox ‘n’ Friends, you’d hear how all the terrorists’ relatives will settle nearby so they can come for visiting day *rolls eyes*
I viewed the CNN video with the three eyewitnesses and found them to be credible. Very strange set of actions on the part of Dutch authorities, the “well-dressed Indian-looking” man, and a passenger who seemed all set to videotape prior to takeoff any “incident” that might occur. Now there are reports that the U.S. is reviewing targets in Yemen for “reprisal” attacks just days after Lieberman called Yemen the possible battleground of “tomorrow’s war”.
I’m sure it’s all a coincidence and just a lot of flubbing on the part of authorities. We should wait for the “official” version.