The President is clearly taking control of health care reform. We know about the pep talk Obama gave publicly in his meeting with House Democrats, but it was the private session that revealed much more.
Clearly, Obama was leaning on the House caucus to pass through health care. But there were a couple specifics that came up in the meeting. Obama responded to a newfound push to end the insurance industry’s anti-trust exemption by saying, essentially, tell it to Ben Nelson:
“I’m entirely supportive of that,” Obama told (Rep. Peter) DeFazio during a Democratic caucus meeting tonight, according to a Democratic aide. “But I want 60 votes in the Senate. I’m trying to get it done, I’ll leave it at that.”
But far more interesting is Obama’s deliberate push to lower the 12-year period of patent protection for costly biologic drugs.
President Barack Obama told House Democrats on Thursday that he wants to reduce the amount of time certain biotechnology treatments are protected under an agreement in both the House and Senate bills [...]
Ironically, his last-minute push, which comes as negotiators try to bridge divisions between the House and Senate bills, undermines one thing that both bills share: a 12-year exclusivity deal allowing the producers of so-called biologics to make and market these treatments without competition from generic manufacturers. One option on the table would reduce the exclusivity period to 10 years, sources say.
Why is Obama looking to break up the biologics deal? This one comes down to money. The deal with labor on the excise tax left the bill $60 billion short in pay-fors. Providers and stakeholders have been asked for more money (which is galling, that they get asked, but ain’t that America) to fill that gap. One way would be to lower the threshold for biologics, which would bring generics to market quicker, and save the government money on bulk purchasing of those drugs for public health care programs.
Granted, lowering the exclusion from 12 years to 10 isn’t earth-shattering, but it’s demonstrably better. And while Obama has weighed in on other issues involving cost control, this one offers a real public benefit and is separate from the excise tax or the Medicare commission. Not to mention that it’s a burn on the members of Congress representing the biotech industry like Anna Eshoo.
Expect some other moves like this, squeezes on provider profits to scrounge up the money for the bill.




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Not.Good.Enough.
Obama is incapable of getting off his ass for the public good but he’ll work to save a few dollars to make the bill look better on paper.
Fuck him.
US accuses J&J of kickback scheme with Omnicare – 1 hour ago) of paying tens of millions of dollars in kickbacks to Omnicare Inc (OCR.N) to buy and recommend J&J drugs. The alleged kickbacks, dating from 1999 …
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NOTE: This is an especially interesting article involving Massachusetts nursing homes and kickbacks.
Have declined to sign the Gruber petition – this is a non-issue – for a pointed explanation, please see Paul Krugman:
January 11, 2010, 9:13 am
Jonathan Gruber
Oy. I sort of missed the controversy over Jon Gruber and his contract with HHS. For those who haven’t been following this, Gruber — who is one of the three or four top health care economists in the nation — turns out to have a large research grant from the Department of Health and Human Services, for modeling the consequences of various reform plans. This has led some people, mainly Marcy Wheeler at Firedoglake, to question Gruber’s objectivity.
The truth is that this is no big deal. Gruber’s grant is from HHS, not the West Wing; it’s basically the same kind of thing as, say, an epidemiologist receiving a grant from the National Institutes of Health. You wouldn’t ordinarily say that this tarnishes the epidemiologist’s credentials as an independent analyst on infectious diseases, unless you want to say that nobody receiving a research grant can be considered independent.
The only reasons you might see this differently would be if Gruber were either receiving a sweetheart deal, or seemed to have changed his views to accommodate his sponsors. Neither is remotely true. Gruber is very much the go-to guy on modeling reform: it’s hard to think of who else could be doing the work better. And his position on reform has been entirely consistent.
I agree this should be free to all that live in this country, nothing else is health care but corp welfare for the industry.
again, Paul Krugman, who knows a thing or two about funding for research, has dealt with the ‘Gruber controversy’ – January 11, 2010, 9:13 am
Jonathan Gruber
Oy. I sort of missed the controversy over Jon Gruber and his contract with HHS. For those who haven’t been following this, Gruber — who is one of the three or four top health care economists in the nation — turns out to have a large research grant from the Department of Health and Human Services, for modeling the consequences of various reform plans. This has led some people, mainly Marcy Wheeler at Firedoglake, to question Gruber’s objectivity.
The truth is that this is no big deal. Gruber’s grant is from HHS, not the West Wing; it’s basically the same kind of thing as, say, an epidemiologist receiving a grant from the National Institutes of Health. You wouldn’t ordinarily say that this tarnishes the epidemiologist’s credentials as an independent analyst on infectious diseases, unless you want to say that nobody receiving a research grant can be considered independent.
The only reasons you might see this differently would be if Gruber were either receiving a sweetheart deal, or seemed to have changed his views to accommodate his sponsors. Neither is remotely true. Gruber is very much the go-to guy on modeling reform: it’s hard to think of who else could be doing the work better. And his position on reform has been entirely consistent.
Ditto. I’ve learned through this entire, drawn out, under managed, misdirected process I don’t trust Obama to work for the Citizenry.
So, public consumer advocates wanted no more than 5 years protection; Obama originally proposed 7 years; the House and Senate granted bio-industry’s request for 12, and now Obama offers 10?
This is the team that said the bill did everything they could think of to lower costs.
Swing and a miss…
Obama doesn’t even lie effectively. Often but not well.
It seems odd that Obama chose this battle, since it’s an area on which a$$hole sellout Dems in both the House and Senate are equally and assholishly happy with.
Reducing the exclusivity period from 12 to 10 years isn’t nearly good enough, and it’s pointless if the evergreening provisions remain.
Whether you sign the petition or not, you might want to read the comments to/on Krugman’s blog which were critical, and the three rebuttals he hasn’t responded to that have been written by Hamsher and Marcy Wheeler. Krugman blew that one.
Krugman’s defense of Gruber was so weak even his personality cultists should have been able to see through it. They agree because he told them what they wanted to hear.
This Obama-con game is a joke. “But I want 60 votes in the Senate.” This 60 vote Obama-con is just a cover for coporate interest. Kill this healthcare bill disaster and start aknew with medicare for all. If medicare is good enough for grandma it’s good enough for me!
Hey how about a little help with drug importing!! I realize the reports of canadians dying in the street from bad drugs is overwhelming…oops thats not happening, so take billy tauzins dick out of your mouth you sell out!
Manor Care Plans To Restructure After Takeover by Carlyle …Nov 7, 2007 … “The real important message is that Manor Care now owns all assets, … Manor Care runs a network of more than 500 skilled nursing and rehabilitation centers, … “If someone has an issue with a facility, [he or she] will have recourse with … chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, …
http://www.washingtonpost.com › Business
Pass S2641, the Nursing Home Transparency and Improvement ActThe bill would require better disclosure of who owns a nursing home and who is ultimately … As more buyout firms like the Carlyle Group move into the nursing home industry, … to identify the entity that owns, operates, and controls any skilled nursing facility? … 11-26-07 before Ill House Aging Committee. …
http://www.facts-online.org/fixmanorcare/alert-description.html?alert_id... – Cached
AB 1457 Assembly Bill – Bill AnalysisIn November of 2007 the U.S. House of Representatives Ways and Means … nation’s largest nursing home chain, HCR Manor Care for $6.3 billion by the Carlyle Group, … CANHR argues that nursing home residents deserve to know who owns the … The term “skilled nursing facility or intermediate care facility” would be …
info.sen.ca.gov/…/ab_1457_cfa_20090504_131947_asm_comm.html – Cached
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J&J Nursing Home Kickback Scheme Tripled Risperdal Sales, DOJ …Jan 15, 2010 … Johnson & Johnson (JNJ)’s kickback scheme with Omnicare (OCR), a pharmacy supplier to nursing homes, was so successful that it threatened to …
industry.bnet.com/…/jj-nursing-home-kickback-scheme-tripled-risperdal-sales-doj-alleges/ – 3 hours ago
NOTE: This DOJ complaint was filed in Boston,Massachusetts.
This bnet piece is excellent.
I have never seen a politician fight so aggressively and persistently against HIS OWN BASE……
Did I fail to mention that Mitt Romney’s equity firm ,Bain Capital ,is in the nursing home business, too?
[PDF] The Fairness in Nursing Home Arbitration Act S. 2838/H.R. 6126 …File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat – Quick View
does enable ill-practicing nursing homes to escape accountability and … including Bain Capital, Kohlberg, Kravis Roberts, and Merrill Lynch in July 20068 …
http://www.fairarbitrationnow.org/uploads/nursinghomearbitrationcosts.pdf
NOTE: Romney is the former Governor of Masachusetts.
Krugman was wrong, because among other things, he doesn’t recognize a conflict of interest when it involves a colleague. Gruber was endorsing a program for the Administration that can either grant or deny him future business. He refused to disclose this when talking to the popular press about the issue.
This is such an absurdly obvious point that it amazes me that I still have to argue about this.
From 12 years to 10 years??? Horrors! Who will pay for new Hatteras 53′s for the Pfizer board of directors???
This is just more of Obama’s incremental shit.
Does anyone on here really want to send a message to Obama and the democratic “Leadership”?
If so, then don’t give Martha Coakley a dime. There is nothing that would send a message to our dear “centrists” like losing Ted Kennedy’s seat.
Brown IS bad, but at this point, where is all the good progressive legislation that the dems are putting into the hopper that we need to protect from the evil republican filibuster? Most of us on here won’t shed tear one if the repubs and blueroaches shoot down the Trojan Horse healthcare sellout..
BTW, Coakley doesn’t need our money; she’s getting plenty from the fatcats in the health insurance and pharmaceutical industry:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/12/lobbyists-hosting-martha-_n_421114.html
Gang, I tell you, it’ll be a lot easier to give O. and the dems a good, strong, leash-tug now, than it will be to do it, down the road. Iraq is about to come back on the front burner just in time for the mid-terms, and when it does, the house of cards that Obama has allowed his administration to become could collapse in front of our eyes.
It’s still not too late to keep the coalition of hopeful together; the ones that elected him. If he and the congress will grow some spinal column, they can still run the repubs back under the troll bridge, but if he continues to look some wretched combination of just another political hack, and a wuss to boot, we’re done for.
Better; WAY better, to do all we can to show them that they can’t turn on us like this now, that when we’re looking at a republican tidal wave.
No, Mr. President, YOU need to tell it to Ben Nelson.
ajl1239:
Roger that.
Precisely. It would be an absurdly simple thing to promise Nelson some consideration on either this bill or another to compensate. That’s how it’s been done for at least 200 years in Congress. If Obama needs 60 votes, I’m pretty sure he could secure them without screwing the country.
Got an e-mail about Coakley yesterday, begging for last minute contributions. I explained that thanks to her fellow Democrats, I didn’t feel like I could afford it.
It’s something I’ll be writing a lot in the months ahead, I think. They need to be reminded how much they’ve screwed us, and how we think about it.
And, just to reiterate for the record:
During the 1997-1998 academic year, Dr. Gruber was on leave as Deputy Assistant Secretary for Economic Policy at the Treasury Department.(Clinton Administration-in great part due to Larry Summers influence,according to Gruber,himself.*).
He,Gruber, was a key architect of Massachusetts’ ambitious health reform effort(while Romney was Governor*), and in 2006 became an inaugural member of the Health Connector Board, the main implementing body for that effort.
Sourcewatch
*The paranthetical inserts are mine-not part of the Sourcewatch article.
YOU think FDL is HIS base? LOL!!!! This is the TEAPARTY base…
remember?
That’s a good strategy – maybe progressives will get REAL lucky and we can lose the house, the senate and the White House! That will show ‘em!
won’t it?
And I’m sure you’ll get an even BETTER health care bill…
Gitcheegumee gives some facts about Gruber that are missed in your (“Scarecrow”) comment.
I am a retired actuary – Gruber is not an actuary. I have designed and priced insurance. Gruber has not. I am also an MIT grad. – in Math.
Gruber writes a lot – and is quite smart – and his math is correct given his selected data and his projection technique. But his data selection sucks, and his conclusions are unsupported by the data.
The Rand study that ended in 82 covered 2000 families (about 6000 persons) for 3 or 5 years and tested the use of the health care system when you had no deductible (free care), a modest deductible, and a large deductible, and then looked at outcomes. The only conclusion was that a small deductible kept down claims while not hurting health care results. But the study also yielded numbers that appeared to show little benefit from our health care system – a conclusion we know is wrong based on better studies. The 95-96-97 HMO conversion resulted in lower or stable year to year health costs – and while this occurred wages went up – but as a first year student knows correlation does not mean causation. Grubler has been selling causation – and shows bias as he is too smart to make such a stupid mistake on his own.
If you believe major employers do not just pocket health benefit savings – and set salaries based on market rather than trying to share out between wages and CEO bonuses and shareholder dividends the earnings increase, well, you were not near the same board rooms I was in or near over my career.
Gruber is biased – and that bias is costing Americans in this plan. The union worker benefit plan tax is just a way to please the GOP (how is that working out?) and to avoid a surtax on the over $1 million a year wage earnings.
Sure glad Obama protected those over a million a year wage earners – right?
Yeah Fuck him… he ain’t done nothing for us – I’m sure a good republican would’ve given us Sotomayor, ended the global gag rule, The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, began the withdrawl from iraq, engaged the Muslim waorld – even if he’s still sending troops, helped America regain international respect again, reversed funding for stem cell research, allowed California and other states to regulate auto emissions, released the torture memos, or gave us a stimulus that helped the economy stop bleeding, extended unemployment benefits, increased money for state’s projects and kept teachers and cops on the job…
but FUCK HIM!!!
he won’t dance for me…
What makes you think he hasn’t?
Also, it may be of interest to revisit the issue of the WH email,from last August, delineating the deal with Pharma:
Billy Tauzin – WhoRunsGov.com, a Wash Post Co
Grim, Ryan, The Huffington Post, “Internal Memo Confirms Big Giveaways in White House Deal with Big Pharma,” AUgust 13, 2009 Both parties at first denied …http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Billy_Tauzin -
WarPub:
As Kafka said on another thread:
“…Sure the democrats have ideas…shitty HCR, escalation in Afghanistan,
toture coverups, bankster bailouts, etc…Folks, sniping at the GOP’rs won’t solve our problem because our problem is with the democrats.”
To which I would add: Hammer-nail-bang.
But let me ask; given the above, what are you trying to protect? Obama and the dems chances to give us more of the same?
I damn sure didn’t vote for BushLite, and I’m not going to support it/them, and at this point, it’s become painfully obvious that Obama’s “reaching out” to a bunch of republicans and blueroaches who wouldn’t walk out and piss on him if he was on fire on the steps of congress has gained us practically none of the real changes that we need.
And, I’m not interested in hearing that he’s only been in office a year. THIS was the year that he could have defined his presidency by closing the prison at Gitmo in his first 30 days and then by pulling 20,000 troops out of Iraq in his first two months. For starters, those would have been “earnest money” that he meant business. On top of that, the healthcare reform fight was a made-to-order brawl for us. At least 2/3rds of americans wanted, minimum, a public option.
He could have run a strong bill with that in it up to the hill, and if the repubs and bluedogs blocked it, he could have KEPT running it up, and he would have come off looking like Captain America working in the trenches against the assholes who are unspinnably responsible for our problems. And, I promise you, about the 4th or 5th time he did it, the pressure on the party of “Fuck no, we won’t help you salvage something from 8 years of OUR greed, arrogance, and lunacy!” would have become unbearable and they would have collapsed.
As Palin and Limbaugh and Robertson are currently defining themselves as grotesque parodies of decent human beings, Obama could have put the entire republican delegation, and some ersatz democrats, into exactly the same outhouse. And he and the dems could have kept them there for a long, long, time. Instead, they have practically done rehab on them, and have, for some utterly perverse reason, permitted them to assume the pure, unsullied, mantle of “the loyal opposition”.
It’s been something that political historians will be shaking their heads about for decades to come.
As for Coakley and the precious filibuster-buster number of “60″, I ask again, what progressive legislation that you are so concerned about, should we be so worried over that we should back yet ANOTHER democrat who is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the health insurance industry? Did you read the list of the corporations who put together that fundraiser for her?
What I’m saying is this: After a year of strong working margins in both houses, the democrats have received all the carrot they deserve, from the rank and file. Now, the way I see it, is NO stick that we can apply that would be as attention-getting as their losing (democratic underwear change required about here…:o) ) Ted Kennedy’s old seat in Mass.
I can’t bring myself to send money to Brown; that’s too much, but if I was a resident up there, I’d lock myself into the basement with some time control device that wouldn’t let me out until the polls closed. When I read about that fundraiser, I got a gleam in my eye like you wouldn’t believe. If Coakley loses, I’ll be like:
“Machiavelli THIS, Rahm, you asshole!” :o)
Oh, the irony of this:
“It was a great plan in Massachusetts, but the notion that you could do this nationally is simply laughable,” said Jonathan Gruber, an MIT economist and member of the Health Insurance Connector Authority board that oversees the Massachusetts program. “If you’re going to cover the uninsured nationally you’re going to have to raise new funds.”
Gruber added yesterday, “He (Romney)gets credit for a brilliant plan here in Massachusetts but he should be honest about what it takes to create such a plan nationally.”
(Gruber referring to Romney’s Massachusetts health care reform.)
“Romney’s Universal Healthcare Can’t Be copied in Most States”,Micheal Levenson, Boston Globe,November 3,2007
NOTE:Should not have Gruber taken his OWN advice BEFORE recently asserting that lower health costs would result in driving higher wages?
Romney’s universal healthcare idea can’t be copied in most states …Nov 3, 2007 … It sounds like a simple solution to one of the nation’s most vexing problems: how to provide healthcare coverage to the uninsured without …
http://www.boston.com › News › Nation – Similar
Failure is not an option – don’t you remember how they tried to destroy Clinton? Obama is NO BUSH lite – except on the stuff he RAN AS BUSH lite (like Afghanistan). Do you want to give Rush and the gang MORE ammunition that the left can’t govern (I know, the democrats ain’t the left, but to America and the media, Obama is a big liberal, remember?) – I’m willing to puke in my mouth to keep the Lucianne’s from claiming another victory – to this day the WHOLE Clinton administration is reduced to MONICA – and I think Obama has a good heart and WOULD sign single payer if it crossed his desk – would give you everything you wanted – if the politics were realistic – but they’re not. maybe it’s absurd, but I JUST DON’T WANT THE RIGHT to claim victory – because even as you and I know they’re full-fledged douchbags, we STILL see the Cheney’s on meet the prees – along with Karl Rove and Bill Kristol and Chaz Krauthammer – and those are the LEGITIMATE voices of the SERIOUS thinkers in America – so where’s Media Benjamin? or Noam Chomsky or Barbara Ehrenreich or real lefties like THAt — they’re considered WACKOS or HYSTERICAL – so instead WE GET ELEANOR CLIFT!!! THAT’s the LEFT WE GET…
So, that’s what I’m trying to protect – an administration that has great potential – but from day one, has been under attack from both left and right – and defined in the national media by the loudest voices on the right…
Protect? You have the nerve to talk about protecting health,rights,progressive reform, etc.?
I’m a woman who is the sacrifice in this HC bill. Both Houses have insured that with Stupak and Nelson women’s rights to equal protection and freedom of choice are trashed.
This disgraceful end run on RoevWade along with more intrusion on women’s legal rights is totally unacceptable. House bill does not even permit women to pay for their own abortions if federal funds are involved on any level. As for Nelson’s position that women pay separately by special abortion riders offers Insurance companies good reason to omit it entirely.
Suggesting that women pay separately for this insurance by separate check.. we all know where that leads.
So it’s ok for Obama to allow women to be sacrificed as long as he can get this horrendous sell out of the Public option and enrich private Insurance beyond their wildest dreams.
It seems from Obama’s behavior and sneak backroom deals with Big Pharma and Insurance cartels that he’s a total sellout, a weak leader, and doomed political opportunist who has become a faker.
Obama denied this until some in the media knew of emails, and Tauzin himself had bragged and it was picked up by Politico.com a few months ago.
Obama denied that he struck this deal with lobbyist Tauzin, but we all knew this was a lie. He made promises to BigPharma engineered by chief lobbyist Bill Tauzin. A specific deal involving 80 billion was involved in this sellout.
Bill Tauzin is the guy who when in congrss worked with Tom Delay to shove through [after 3 late night hand handed votes] Medicare PlanD drug plan with its donut hole. After leaving congress Tauzin took this 2 million dollar a yr job as his reward for shafting seniors with this horrible bait and switch legislation.
So this is the bastard that Obama made his secret deal against our interests back in August.
The press has given Obama a free pass on this and there are many emails and visitor WH lists that reveal his sneaky betrayal of his promises to bring reform and change. Transparency anyone?
There is much here if exposed when the media gets around to it will make us all want to throw up.
WarPub@35:
“An administration that has great potential…”
You can say that after his first year?
You toss out that he SAID he was going to focus on Afghanistan. And, he did. But, considering:
That nothing has been done about closing the prison at Gitmo…
That he talked, often, about bringing corporate america to heel…
That his stated plan of pulling all of our combat troops out of Iraq in 18 months…
That he excoriated (rightly so) the Bush administration for it’s descent into the septic tank of officially sanctioned torture…
That his committment to solving environmental problems has shrunk like the polar ice caps…
That he went to Oslo to receive the Nobel Peace Prize and there, delivered a speech that could have been written by Dick Cheyney…
After all of this, you can still talk about his administration having great potential?
With his failure or backtracking on so much promise, would it have been too much to for Obama to reneg on his promise to jack up Afghanistan and to tell the pentagon warbots that the shelf-life on their rosy little light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel scenarios had expired and they should give him a withdrawal plan that had nothing to do with “winning”, but only, getting out of BOTH shitmires so that the people in Afghanistan and Iraq could decide what they wanted to do with what was left of their respective countries?
Obama’s leadership quotient is down in the single-digit percentile. He had done nothing that required political courage. Nothing.
Back to Coakley. Given her schmoozing with the health care industry and big pharma, I think she would make an excellent sacrificial goat. A real heads up that O. and the dems risk political oblivion for their feckless “centrism”.
Moreover, the idea that the loss of Kennedy’s seat could be interpreted as “we should move further right”, is preposterous. If it happens, it will be a “shit or get off the pot!”, in 30 foot high pulsating neon letters.
If the prez doesn’t find his courage and moral fiber pretty damn soon, I think there are a lot of democrats who will be looking for another thundermug occupant. My 2c, I will help them.
Gitcheegumee @ 33:
Regarding the costs of giving more americans decent healthcare:
I know where we can get $4 billion dollars a week, simply by shutting down two worse-than-useless wars.
Well, its been a helluva day for J&J(Johnson and Johnson Pharmaceuticals_), as I posted upthread about the DOJ suit against them for bribing nursing homes to use J&J products .
Here’s ANOTHER story involving some more of their products- a recall this time.
Johnson & Johnson Recalls More OTC Drugs Amid Odor Complaints – 12 hours ago
The move closely follows its recalls of Tylenol Arthritis medicine and … did physically examine whether the moldy odor originated from the presence of …
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