In Baltimore this morning, President Obama announced his proposal for a job creation tax credit for small business, which would spend $33 billion dollars trying to encourage hiring in the small business sector, where a majority of all job creation originates. This is combined with the $30 billion proposal for community banks to lend to small businesses, adding up to a serious commitment to the small business sector.
The White House describes their proposal like this:
• Businesses will receive a $5,000 tax credit for every net new employee that they employ in 2010. The total amount of credit will be capped at $500,000 per firm, to ensure that the majority of the benefit goes to small businesses.
• Small businesses will be reimbursed for the Social Security payroll taxes they pay on
real increases in their payrolls. Specifically, firms that increase wages, expand hours or
hire new workers would get a credit against the added payroll taxes that result. This bonus would be based on Social Security payrolls, so it would not apply to wage increases above the current taxable maximum of $106,800.• Firms will be able to claim the credit on a quarterly basis, which gets money out to
businesses quickly and provides an early incentive to hire and increase payrolls. Non-
profits will be eligible for the credit and start-ups will be eligible for half the credit.• The proposal is estimated to cost $33 billion.
It’s worth wondering whether this is a commitment to small business or something of a giveaway. While the CBO has gauged this to be an effective technique at stimulating job creation, others have wondered whether this would allow small businesses to take a subsidy for people they were already planning to hire. Economists at the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities expressed tepid support for this kind of measure, but worried about the design.
Tax cuts targeted on job creation have some advantages compared with general business tax cuts but there are serious practical difficulties in designing such measures and their net impact on job creation is uncertain. How would one identify which jobs in expanding firms were created due to a jobs tax credit and which would have been created anyway? How would one identify jobs in contracting firms that would have been lost without the credit? The temptation for firms to game the system would be huge. Proposals that take these concerns seriously acknowledge that the large majority of jobs that receive such a tax credit would have been created anyway.[4] That means that a large percentage of the money spent is a business windfall that generates little new demand, as described above.
Econometric evidence suggests that even if they experience no increase in demand for their products, some firms will respond to such a tax credit by expanding employment. The wages supported by the credit will represent a net increase in demand, and the jobs will represent a net increase in employment. In terms of bang-for-the-buck, however, there is a real question whether a targeted jobs credit is as effective as the UI/food stamp/state fiscal relief measures discussed above.
For their part, the Administration says that they would look at net increase, not grass hiring, and would deny the credit to businesses which switch from full-time to part-time workers, which they say would cut down on gaming the system. Obama acknowledged that there would be some gaming in his remarks today:
Now, it’s true that in some instances this tax credit will go to businesses that were going to hire folks anyway. But then, it simply becomes a tax cut for small businesses that will spur investment and expansion. And that’s a good thing, too. And that’s why this type of tax cut is considered by economists — who rarely agree on anything — to be one of the most cost-effective ways of accelerating job growth, especially because we will include provisions to prevent people from gaming the system. So, for example, you won’t get a tax credit for doubling your workforce while cutting the hours of each worker in half. We’re not going to let you game the system to take advantage of the tax credit, unless you’re doing right by your workers.
Obama stressed that this tax credit is merely a part of the jobs bill that he hopes will pass the Senate in the coming weeks, but the Senate is grinding down the size of the bill so much that the $33 billion earmarked for this approach would result in much of the overall size. Tom Harkin is fighting to keep the cost higher than the $80 billion floated earlier this week. He also rejected this manner of job creation tax credit:
Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), chairman of Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee, said he wants the package to exceed $80 billion and he has panned a proposal to give tax credits to businesses that hire new employees.
“I think it’s going to have to be a bigger package than that,” said Harkin.
Harkin said Senate Democrats met with economists who have told them “$80 billion won’t make a difference.” [...]
Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) is pushing tax cuts for small businesses and Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said the tax credit for new hires is still on the table.
Harkin said he “totally disagreed” with estimates that small-business tax credits would spur significant job growth.
“If you give a small business a tax break for hiring someone that is unemployed, how do you know they wouldn’t have hired that person anyway?” Harkin said.
Furthermore, if this package needs to follow the recent paygo rules and have offsets, it will do nothing for aggregate demand and barely be worth the effort.
Stay tuned…




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Wowzers! 33 Billion!! What is that, $100 for every American? It’s really too bad that they have good ideas but only half heartedly apply them. They spend more money than this shooting up MidEast funerals and wedding parties! Hard to take this guy serious when he applies such small bandaids to real problems. And once again, the banks get the same amount, to further push these businesses into bankruptcy. How sad.
24 trillion to the banksters.
33 billion to Americans.
F**k me.
maybe they plan on paying it with arms sales?
33 billion to us really? I think he needs to freeze that shit , wasting $$ on losers. The Corps. will never approve.
Krugman and others I have seen in print (Baker, I think I recall) seem to look at the tax credit as a real limited-effect kind of effort.
how about making public sector jobs more effective, and making more public sector jobs?
“More effective” means fewer overly educated overly credentialed management consultant SCUM per park worker or library worker or cop or public health person …
unfortunately for the Dems, their main constituency these days are the professional / managerial jerks offs who worked hard to get their credentials and their big syllable job title, and who work really hard and creating and maintaining and invigorating all the idiotic processes they burden systems with.
There are a couple solid reasons average people don’t trust gov’t – the fascists are outstanding liars, and the people who RUN government programs are too often feather bedding nitwits who couldn’t run a hot dog stand!
Tax credits are the BIGGEST bunch of bullshit going – who has money to hire the skill to fill out all this fucking idiotic paperwork? Boeing and Halliburton and Exxon…
rmm.
Grass hiring? Those must be the green jobs!
Maybe I don’t understand the details, but a tax credit is going to be given to employers in the form of a rebate on payroll taxes, which I assume will be FICA and Medicare taxes. Are the rebates to include both the employer and employee portions of the taxes?
Its starting to sound like he’s a republican.
That’s exactly my Q. Sounds like only the employers get the break.
Starting?
What are the other parts of the JOBS bill and how much would they cost and how much effect would they have? Maybe $80B isn’t enough, but what of the entire bill?
Also, how much more stimulus money will be going out the door over the next 6 months? The combined effect could be sufficient.
Do you think there giveing tax credits to welfair business?You know the business that do not pay a liveable wage without benifits like Health Care and Retirement Plans.
let’s eliminate VISAs for foreign workers who take any job for which an out-of-work American is getting unemployment insurance.
That came to me as a Bing Crosby tune, white chrismas…
I wonder if any of the jobs created will be foundation jobs that produce goods that we use every day.Foundation jobs can be built on and give a tax base,selfesteam,liveable wages with benifits,like Health Care,Retirement,.If it’s fluff jobs then why bother if the jobs don’t last.
It’s worth wondering whether this is a commitment to small business or something of a giveaway. While the CBO has gauged this to be an effective technique at stimulating job creation, others have wondered whether this would allow small businesses to take a subsidy for people they were already planning to hire.
Seriously David? By this logic (or lack thereof) if healthcare ever passed then anyone that has health insurance now (whatever the cost) shouldn’t be eligible for subsidies “because they were already buying it or going to buy it so they shouldn’t need a subsidy.”
ssh. listen closely. Its to HIRE someone or give someone a living wage they can afford. You see that same person who’s being hired by that BILLIONAIRE small business owner was unemployed last week making absolutely nothing (unless he still has a small pittance that is his or her unemployment insurance.)
SHEESH. Not everything is a conspiracy people.
This is not even good economics. If the object is to directly create jobs for Americans, then infrastructure projects offer the greatest long-term bang for the buck. If the object is to increase aggregate demand in the economy, then direct payments in the form of unemployment insurance, food stamps, and welfare payments gets the best results. Tax cuts are ineffective at creating demand – they are best used as subsidies to encourage preferred economic activities.
So as far as I’m concerned, this bill is fatally flawed in two ways: a) it’s ineffective, and, b) it is wide open to fraud and abuse surrounding the term “new hire.”
The president looked very good answering questions today at special meeting with republicans.
This would be something to continue with. Flush em out into the sunshine.
And tax credits for hiring is a good idea too. Pro business isn’t going republican, small business is still what makes main street work, bring em back to reality, carrots, get your carrots. Real conservatives need help now.
I want to see Obama succeed and do good.
No surprise. Obama’s been frantically implementing what Clinton and Bush started, pointing missles at the other two world powers, China and Russia.
I really hope the Chinese cut the freaking purse strings off.
There’s nobody to save us and I’m afraid the US has crossed a threshold that threatens the entire planet.
I can guess, but I’d love to know who highjacked this government, how did it happen, and what kind of evil would turn us into the most bloodthirsty, greedy, dangerous, nation on earth.
visionbrkr: I didn’t say anything about a conspiracy, and I wasn’t implying anything conspiratorial. SHEESH. It was just a question on how the tax credit would work.
It would be more effective and much less complicated if the federal government just hired people directly, even if they had to create the jobs. Of course that would require more deficit spending, which would send the deficit hawks into orbit. Funny how tax credits and tax cuts are never seen as adding to the deficit by those same deficit hawks.
alright my apologies maybe i was a bit over the top but as someone who is struggling as a small business owner this doesn’t go far enough. I’ve considered hiring a person or two in the last 3-4 months but not until I’m certain I can get credit from a bank in case things go south. The last thing i need is to have to lay someone off.
“It would be more effective and much less complicated if the federal government just hired people directly, even if they had to create the jobs.”
Really though? The government like this one.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-12-10-federal-pay-salaries_N.htm
The government that now has 19% of so called civil servants making over $100k per year? I worked 3 jobs to start my business and get it off the ground and I don’t make that. Check the article and the stats are blatantly horriffic. The average federal worker now makes $71,206 while the private sector worker makes $40,331. That doesn’t even go into the gold plated retirement plans and health benefits.
Sorry more of THOSE we don’t need.
Slow down stimulus bill.
Hiring plans are in place. Then this. $5,000 adds an interesting unknown into the equation.
So much for setting aside Big bucks for this year. I have a feeling things will be reviewed.
visionbrkr; I also am a small business owner. I am currently not in the market to hire any new employees, regardless of tax credits, and won’t do so unless and until demand picks up. And demand won’t pick up until people have jobs which provide them with at least a small level of disposable income – my business does not market products/services necessary for minimal survival.
Employees the government hires directly through a jobs program wouldn’t need to make $70,000-$100,000/year, even including benefits. They just need jobs that will allow them to make their mortgage payments, make their credit card payments and car payments and feed their families. They need jobs to feel useful. They need jobs to overcome the boredom, malaise and stigma of having no way to contribute their talents, however meager, to a worthwhile enterprise. The government could hire people to sweep streets or plant trees or string broadband cable or work reconstruction jobs in Haiti. The problem is not that the program wouldn’t work, but that people see it as “socialist” or object to the ballooning of the deficit. And some are just cynics who believe that the government can’t do anything worthwhile or, like you, assume all the jobs would fit into some statistic showing that currently federal workers make more money than you do.
I don’t see how a hiring tax cut isn’t a completely necessary part of any jobs bill. It’s a good policy to whatever extent it works, and a political no-brainer. As long as there is also sufficient spending-related job creation in the bill as well.
Capping it a $500,000 is bullshit. That’s 100 employees. No small business can hire 100 employees. This is helping McDonalds and WalMart. This is helping big business hire a bunch of workers who won’t be making a living wage. Cap it at $50,000 or let’s talk about how much those workers will be making. Will they get health care with that job?
The problem with job creation is the government has over regulated companies to the point they can not easily operate in the US. The result of course is the jobs go overseas. A small tax credit will not change this.
Another problem these days in hiring is the legal liability. The Dems love trial lawyers and make it easy for them to help sue companies for hiring the wrong person. Oh, and lets not forget the legal liability when someone you don’t hire decides to sue because they weren’t hired. There was a time when you could hire the best person for the job. Those days are long gone.
When any of my clients start talking about hiring I just point out the hazards of adding employees. I encourage them to automate. A machine has never sued its owner.
tinman, you are spot-on. US companies are over regulated, especially with environmental regulations..and unionization is killing us. Get rid of the corporate tax altogether, especially since that is just feel good policy..corporations don’t pay taxes, people do. Move healthcare and retirement out of business and make it a personal and individual choice.
Do this, and we would have jobs jobs jobs