Speaking at an OFA “Conversation with the President,” Barack Obama called for health care reform, telling the personal story of a former campaign staffer and OFA volunteer who recently lost a battle with cancer as an impetus to get the package done. However, he described the process for finishing the bill for the first time, which included a “methodical,” deliberate process that would involve Republicans and take “several weeks.”
Obama took a fair bit of time to make his pitch to a room full of OFA volunteers and thousands more watching over the Internet. His pitch was similar to what he’s made throughout the past couple weeks: that the bill is closer than health care reform has ever been and it must get over the line, and that Democrats cannot shrink from the challenge. But he added something new to this stump speech. He talked about someone who worked on the campaign from the St. Louis area, who recently succumbed to breast cancer. “She insisted she was going to be buried in an Obama t-shirt,” Obama said. And he continued,
She was fighting throughout the campaign. And it wasn’t to get me elected, or to help her with her situation. It was because she understood there were others behind her who were going to be in the same situation. How can I say to her, we’re giving up How can I say to her family, we’re giving up? How can Democrats on the Hill say this is politically too risky? How can Republicans say we’re better off blocking anything from happening? That can’t be the message the American people are delivering. Yes, they want jobs. And they don’t like the process in Washington, the sausage-making. But they don’t want us to offer them nothing. This is what we campaigned on. And we’re going to keep on working to get it done.
Supporters at the rally spontaneously broke out into a chant of “Yes we can” after that. Obama closed his remarks by saying “I’m still fired up, I’m still ready to go.”
This was all reminiscent of the campaign. But when he was asked how OFA members could specifically help him deliver on health care, he described a drawn-out process that would be slotted in after the passage of multiple jobs bills. This is a rough paraphrase:
Democrats in the House and Senate have worked the last several weeks to finalize a package. We know some of what it will have: 30 million more with coverage, creating an exchange to negotiate with insurers, insurance reforms that benefit everybody (blocking pre-existing conditions, rescissions, etc), and long-term cost reductions in the health care system.
The next step is to call on Republicans to present their ideas. I’d like to have a meeting with Republicans and Democrats and health care experts, go through these bills, walk through them in a methodical way so Americans can compare ideas.
Then we’ve gotta move forward on a vote.
So we should be very deliberate, take our time. We’re moving a jobs package forward over the next several weeks. That will allow everybody to get the real facts.
The idea of some meeting with Democrats and Republicans is new, and it’s part of this “new openness” that we’ve seen on display recently. Democrats and Republicans do meet, ostensibly to discuss ideas, in a televised format, every day. It’s called “the United States Congress.” There’s no reason such a debate couldn’t be done again. But the emphasis here is on a several week-long “cooling off period,” in the hopes that a more methodical or deliberative debate will somehow work out better.
I think that’s a mistake, but I also think it’s a bit of a cover story. Obama acknowledged that “it’s easy to scare people” about health care, because people have a natural fear of the unknown. There’s no reason to believe that wouldn’t change. This reliance on reason hasn’t worked to this point.
What I mean by a cover story is that Obama is basically, with this new offensive, trying to raise his approval ratings, and residually raise the approval ratings of his party. He wants to at least appear to be opening up the process, counteracting the process issues that really sunk health care’s popularity in December. And the hope is that would allow for enough space to get reform over the line. That’s a process of “several weeks,” and that might as well read months.
Among the more interesting moments came at the end of the question, where the President implicitly threatened the job security of the Congress if they don’t pass something on health care.
If Congress decides not to do it, the American people can make a judgment whether Congress did the right thing or not. There are elections coming up, and people can register their concerns during election time.
He didn’t specify Republicans or Democrats, but the statement could be applied equally to either party, and probably more to his own. If they get handed the largest majority in a generation and do almost nothing with it, and spend a year on their signature priority and get nothing out of it, what Obama said above will come true – they won’t be asked back to try again.



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Looks like a repeat of last summer. the Gang of Six Redux. We’ll stop any progress on a health reform bill to ask the Republicans if they’d like to help solve the national health mess, and after they tell us to start over and don’t give any inch and refuse to provide a single vote even if we accept some dumb idea, then what???
Republicans have no ideas, and Obama knows it.
The rest of America does too. Who does he think he’s kidding?
I hear all the cynicism, I share some as well. But I remain hopeful that we can do this through reconciliation. I am glad to hear that the President is open to this. Maybe that is what he means by a few weeks. In any event, I certainly want us to make a dent in this reform. I appreciate the President giving it his own brand of push.
During that Friday meeting with the House Republicans, 5 words screamed their presence to me. President Obama said, “I am not an ideologue.” What I heard in translation was, “I believe in nothing. I stand for nothing. I will take a stand on nothing. I will really apply whatever real power I have at my disposal for nothing.” If one thinks I’m wrong, then answer me this: What has this president actually done beyond giving rah-rah speeches – that is, in terms of the very real application of the very real power he really has at his disposal as president to make things happen in Congress? As far as I can tell, the answer is “Nothing.” This was confirmed to me when Obama recently said, “…if Congress decides we’re not going to do it, even after all the facts are laid out, all the options are clear, then the American people can make a judgment as to whether this Congress has done the right thing for them or not. And that’s how democracy works, and there will be elections coming up and they will be able to make a determination and register their concerns one way or another during election time.” That is, what I get from this is that Obama has no intention of really using this real power to try to make things happen in Congress. It’s as if he’s already trying to make excuses: “If Congress doesn’t do it, then don’t blame me – blame them.” And I note that senators such as Franken and other senators have recently complained to Axelrod that this president is still sitting on the sidelines in terms of this real application of real power. ——– Here is where I am in all this, metaphorically: I get all excited that I finally have a lawyer to represent me in a legal conflict. Then I find out that the other side’s lawyers are using all legal power at their disposal to try to obtain an outcome satisfactory to their client, but my lawyer is willing to do nothing of the sort – instead, he just wants to make deals with the other side. In the process of trying to make a deal, he compromises away more and more of what I hired him to obtain for me as follows: To use a Venn diagram, what I see happening in this deal-making is that, apart from these lawyers agreeing to at least some of the intersection of the two circles, the other side is getting some of what is in the other side’s circle that is not in the intersection but I am getting nothing in my circle that is not in the intersection. ——– I therefore have no choice. Since I am not getting from this lawyer the representation I expected, I am going to fire this lawyer – and all his co-counsel (congressional Democrats-in-name-only) – at the next opportunity. I think that most of the rest of the progressive base of the Democratic Party will do the same. I will join them in withholding my money, my labor, and my vote from any and all such Democrats. Hey. Rahm Emanuel. President Obama. “Hell hath no fury than a client or a base scorned.”
How did someone as intelligent as O end up being such a moron? Rhetorical Q.
Jane wrote a post a week or two ago. There are not 51 votes for HCR in the senate. And if the hurdle were 41, or 31, there wouldn’t be that many votes either. The point is NOT to get it done, while pretending to get it done.
What I mean by a cover story is that Obama is basically, with this new offensive, trying to raise his approval ratings, and residually raise the approval ratings of his party.
“Residually raise the approval of his party”? Give me a break. He doesn’t give a big rat’s ass about his party.
O’s the weakest alpha male prez in my lifetime.
Another shameless publicity stunt. Every time he goes off on his “bipartisanship” BS I just want to smack him. If he really thinks more bipartisanship is what’s needed, he’s an idiot. If (as is more likely) he actually realizes that Republicans will not assist him in any way, then he is deliberately condemning HCR to death. But I suppose we can’t be too hard on him, he’s only following orders from his commander-in-chief, that genius of political calculus, President Rahm.
Well, you know that HCR is a delicate balance for O: how to get the max benefit for his campaign contributors while fooling the voters. That’s HARD work.
I was getting ready to say that exploiting the story of someone’s tragic death for political gain was a new low for Mr. Obama, but then I remembered that he had used the story of his mother’s death in much the same way during his campaign. So I guess it’s really just business as usual for him, and it’s me who has a problem here.
And he’s doing a piss-poor job of it, too. A lot of the voters are not being fooled.
Obama continues to have a fundamental misunderstanding of several crucial concepts involved in being President. He has proven to be everything I feared he might be when he announced his run – an empty suit. All talk, no action. Somehow he thinks his job is to be Mediator In Chief instead of President. He simply does not have the slightest clue what leadership is. If he wanted to be a diplomat, he should have gone to work for the State Dept.
I’ve begun to see something very disheartening about Obama. Despite his rhetorical skills, he is still one of those technocratic Democrats who think that if you just “lay out the facts” and invite everyone round the table for a robust debate, everyone will see their way to the right choice. In other words, he thinks that the proper policy will somehow transcend right and left. That’s what this whole “I’m not an ideologue” nonsense is about. I think he truly believes that there are rational arguments and sets of facts that transcend moral beliefs. In his mind, the moral beliefs, the ideology–the source of people’s passion–have gotten in the way of this transcendent set of policies. When in fact it’s the opposite. Moral beliefs are the basis of policy. If I’m right, that would explain his obsession with bipartisanship, and his lack of interest in progressives. Activists, with their “ideology” and their passions, cloud decision making and get in the way in his view. The most important part of reform from a moral perspective is to him the big distraction
Still with the cooperation with the Repubs. The people that now see the potential of taking back congress based upon their opposing every thing he proposes. Like, they will be more reasonable because it is an election year. I guess the worry during the primary was right, he does not have the stomach to fight the fight to get the legislation passed. They are so set upon pleasing the conservadems and the repubs, that they are dismissing and calling the left names. If Obama proposed a strategy for completing the sidecar effort, I would barely believe that there was a chance. Stretching it out to spring, that can mean only one thing. Obama is going to let healthcare die and blame it on the left and congress. They will then get huffy on the jobs front and financial reform passing something (anything) and trying to build support for 2012, regardless of the makeup of congress. It appears that that has been the main goal of all of this chaos. He always wanted the current Senate plan. He was mad at Reid for including the public option. He just wanted something passed. Anything could be spun as historic, three of the four committees looking at this issue thought it was for real. I guess they and us were Fnin ret@rd@d.
Excellent point!
I am fond of using his Dreams book to make much the same point, that he uses people for his own political ends. If he were sincere, he would have written an afterward about how all those people in the book, and the programs, turned out, since the book was written long after the event. And, all those people would have been in the front row at his inauguration. But there was no afterward, and all those people who were important in his life are nowhere to be found now.
If I’d been at the event, I would have been tempted to chang ‘What a crock! What a crock!’ The package that’s contemplated strikes me as worse than nothing, in some respects. Notably, mandates in the absense of robust regulation. We’ll be threatening people with fines and liens for failing to buy insurance they will never be able to use because co-pays and deductibles be too high for them. And the premiums, even at the most subsidized rate, will be a hardship to pay. And though the ‘insurance’ will do no good for the people who buy it, it will cost the tax payers a bundle.
I think the whole thing sounds like a nightmare. I still hold out hope that something better will emerge but I’m not sanguine. ‘What a crock!)
Got that right. Though his approval rating is still pretty good considering the circumstances. Blaming congress seems to be working. Once the Rs get in the majority in 2010, O will switch parties. Then all will be well. /s
I’m pissed. Even people who aren’t paying much attention are pissed.
IMO you fundamentally misunderstand and misunderestimate O. He is NOT sincere in calling for bipartisanship and in laying out the facts for reasonable people to decide. Those are smokescreens for his deliberately creating failure and reversal of everything he ran for office on.
People who are pissed and who are paying no attention are Teabagging this weekend.
Right – Dems, Repubs & health care experts . . . as long as it’s not single-payer advocates like Dr. Flowers and the Physicians for a National Health Program . For those who didn’t see her last night on Bill Moyer’s Journal – http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/02052010/profile3.html
Ok, I have 12 minutes, explain just why he is doing that?
To please his campaign contributors.
swell, have good time/
What’s your hypothesis?
you know, I believe all obama has to do to “get it done” “for now” is remove that REDICULOUS mandate
there are some excellant qualities of the bill, there are some liabilities but so long as nobody is forced into it we can work from there
if he REALLY wanted to “fix it”, he’s gonna need to take on pharma and remove their exemption from competition, he’s gonna have to give everyone an oportunity to buy into medicare AT A SMALL BUT NOTICEABLE PROFIT so that it SAVES the government money yet provides an alternative over private industry
this is what we hired him to do, to quote a great campaigner;
“yes obama, we can, but only if you want to”
My hypothesis is that Illinois can beat Michigan State in 4 minutes because MSU’s point guard is injured. B-bye
G’nite Raven.
it’s not only one reason echan, I agree with your reason but I also believe obama is in fact a corporatist, I think the man actually believes in the rediculous “trickle down economic” and his stimulous demonstrates that, where he expects big business to give government largess to the middle and lower class
so to me it’s both, he has become a corporatist and he has notes to pay
I went to book salon late and so wanted to see your point of view , searched for your posts, was disapointed you didn’t get to that discussion
Lisa Derrick is upstairs!
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Didn’t want to waste my time with more empty hortatories about what we should do. The guy doesn’t have much to offer after his first book.
No way he’s dumb enough to believe in trickle down. I think he’s a Machiavellian. I think the corporatism and the post partisanship are part of his eleven dimensional chess. He thinks it’s the only way to get anything done. And that’s why he appointed Rahm, Geithner and Summers.
Do we have to?
We can know him by who Obama has surrounded himself with, who he protects and who he throws under the bus.
He ran as a progressive to get himself elected but he is a blue dog/neoliberal.
he has no eleven dimensional anything, so far he seems a well spoken puppet
if it were some kind of “strategy” then he wouldn’t have given more money then country’s have over to banks
He had some interesting things to say about Venezuela and Iceland.
I don’t believe a word this man says, anymore.
Just a reminder – please avoid using all-caps.
Thanks.
I think Axelrod & Plouffe got religion after MA and decided we HAD to do JOBS JOBS JOBS first. That takes a couple of weeks to do right.
So, (twiddling thumbs) what do you do for a couple of weeks except play politics.
I think this is an offer the Republicans should accept. During these ‘discussions’ Obama can bash them over the head repeatedly, just as he did at the Republican ‘retreat’.
Then at the end of that they’ll vote on it and make the Republicans look ridiculous.
Sounds like a plan.
If Republicans oppose all this they look ridiculous that way. They’re stuck.
It’s just a shame that we had to stop HCR at the moment when it was on the 5-yard line. But, politics is important. We want Dems in charge for the full 8 years of Obama’s presidency, not just 4.
He seems unwilling to speak up for values that might involve really contesting how power and privilege are exercised.
also, she’ll be live-blogging at corrente, tomorrow [super bowl sunday] at 1pm eastern time.
Just a reminder, but the distraction that led to stopping consideration of the so-called HCR bill on the 5-yard line, as you put it, was Obama’s unnecessary and criminal declaration of war against the insurgents fighting a civil war in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Obama also is responsible for creating this piece of crap reform bill because of his back door deals that sealed its doom before negotiations began. He never wanted it to pass. He wanted it to fail and planned to blame liberals and progressives for its failure because he detests liberals and progressives and wants them to lose their seats this fall.
He is not going to get away with it, if I have anything to say about it. Obama is despicable and we have a duty to demand he resign and primary him if he refuses.
thanks for noting that– did it strike anyone else as inappropriate and narcissistic talking about someone who wants to be buried in an Obama t-shirt while discussing healthcare -wtf? How can he say to her ‘we’re giving up?”-when he sold out the party at every turn? back room deals in the whitehouse, killing re-importation…. etc…. then twist every argument the progressives in the House make. Cynical,hypocritical,narcissist. Can you spare me some change.
I believe that when a president has power it provides leadership. Obama has not shown or exercised any power and his flirtation with his Reaganesque posturing regarding bi-partisanship is a loser. This is no longer naive, it’s a political ploy. I get the feeling that Obama finds The Peasants Revolting.
Nothing can fix this miserable healthcare bill in a few weeks as Obama claims, considering his lack of will,clarity,and leadership. This is a total understatement by mr. Cool.
Today the congress addressed the matter of International Women’s rights??
Are we in the same cosmos that House and senate Democrats are in that crafted the insidious and restrictive hits on women’s rights that Stupak and Nelson were allowed to insert in both HC bills?
Our right to choose, our rights to equal protection and privacy are all trashed by both bills which undermine RoevWade and make it all but impossible for poor and working women in federally funded subsidies or programs receiving some federal dollars to obtain abortions.
Only well off and connected women may have access to abortion. The discriminatory practice suggested by Sen.Ben Nelson of requiring women to be billed separately by their insurance providers for abortion coverage is bad enough, but Nelson insisted that women pay for this with separate checks. This is humiliating and insulting, restrictive and discriminatory. Hey, we’re still treated as the Second Sex.
Stupak’s noxious restrictions were openly endorsed by the Council Of Catholic Bishops. The Council ‘s tax free status is in keeping with the separation of powers, but all of this has been overlooked by Democrats who hypocritically pose as change agents. Pelosi looked away.
I believe that these end runs against women’s rights are losers, and the inherent weakness in both House and Senate leadership allowed women’s bodies to be used cynically once again, as political barter.
Obama of course has been absent on this which is no surprise as his absentee behavior on the HC bill has gone from mystifying to contemptible, so who cares about women’s rights?
His position: “They’ll have to vote for me. Where else can they go?”
I have news for President Obama. We have choices he hasn’t dreamed of.
Obama’s behavior regarding the Healthcare bill is now obviously geared towards the corporate insurance and drug monopolies.
Beyond the backrooms, the hit on women’s reproductive freedom and equal protection, there is an impotent WhiteHouse and a serious vacuum of leadership.
During critical economic times such a vacuum is dangerous and we have seen disastrous behavior from both House and Senate because there is no center of power or leadership. And to say nothing of two wars that require extreme judgement and sound leadership.
No Drama Obama has behaved like a detached narcssist who has outsourced the running of the government to his staff,cabinet members, and the congress.
Obama has wasted precious time and has presented us with an intentionally opaque healthcare bill that no one was to fully understand. Now that we have a better take on this insidious misrepresentation of reform we have
revolted along with the voters. It’s become apparent that Obama seems to lack any core values or an ethical center that comes even close to his campaign rhetoric.
We must demand more and resist attemts to snooker us and run us over.
That T-shirt reference was definitely a narcissistic display on his part. Despicable and emblematic of whom Obama is. Other: NO matter what political manueverings O makes with jobs or whatever, what rings out for voters, is the thematic, rhetoric minus conviction and action. It’s getting old and tired.. and it’s wearing down the voters who are already feeling hopeles.. Now they have a hopelessly, hopeless Prez who is basically a con artist.
It appears that corporations control – and as you state, the number of votes we have to change that will always be less than we need – no matter how much we lower the bar from 60 vote super majority.
Indeed my read of Obama is that he is a con-job. The recent speech is just setting up the 2010 election claim that no health bill was the fault of the GOP. I do not think Rahm can sell that in November – but I also think that Obama and staff think they know all and will never take advice that has the effect of pushing back on corporate wants, or of pushing forward the agenda of the left.
Healthcare reform has been doomed before it ever started, both for the Clintons and Obama. Universal healthcare in Europe is paid for through the general fund, through general government expenditures. They can afford it because they don’t have the high defense expenditures that we have as ‘policeman to the world’. In Europe they have parliamentary governments with coalitions in which 3rd and 4th parties such as progressives or conservatives wield enormous power because of their parts in coalitions. The governments are closer to the people.
Obama’s team made a tactical error to stall everything else in Washington and making it wait for healthcare. But then Obama thought he got elected becuse he was so great when the truth was he only got in because Bush was so unpopular and the economy did a huge tank job right before the election.
Besides that how in the world do you propose to take one sixth of the economy and nationalize it?
Better to say exclusions due to preexisting conditions are bad public policy. So pass a law against that. Prices are rising too fast and its draining the economy. So pass price controls. Pass a tax on windfall profits. You can make a case for each of these individually and fight for them if that is what you need to do.
If they don’t pass health care reform then they don’t have to rewrite their urgent fundraising letters from two years ago.
Well, David, since Obama presumably understands that about “not being asked back again”, you’d think that at this point, with about 9 months left to avoid becoming THE historical poster-boy for a failed president, he would be interested in displaying a little leadership. Let’s see what he does next week, when, as Congressman Fazio pointed out, the House takes up the issue of anti-trust exemptions for the healthcare robber barons.
It’s a made-to-order fight for us, in that practically every american voter can understand it. MUCH simpler than all of the clutter surrounding the healthcare reform bill.
Will Obama put what political capital he has left, on the line to dump that get-out-of-jail-free card for the corporate leeches who’ve so successfully attached themselves to us?
Enquiring potential third-party voters want to know.
Obama is not a Moron. Obama is a liar and a traitor. Obama works for pharma and the banks not the American people. Look at who (what actually) owns pharma and the death dealing health insurance industry (80%)… Its “institutional” investors i.e. government insiders! Government will NEVER cut/change the so called “health industry” unless it means MORE PROFITS FOR THEM. We’re dealing with AMORAL ends-justifies-means captialists that will say and do anything that is in their best interest. OBAMA IS THE PROBLEM NOT THE SOLUTION!