Their afraid to give Rethuglicans and the ConservaDems any new Targets.

Detailed bills without any details is SO very Republican.

And it has worked so well for the Rs, right?

A news conference today with no details and a vote on Monday? WTF? Reid is raising self-parody to a new low.

People are really expecting too much from the Democrats. First, you guys want a bill with some discernible substance to it. Next, you are going to want Democrats to actually do something. I mean it’s all too much. You have to be realistic. It’s not like the Democrats have the White House and the largest majorities in the Congress in decades. You have to tone down your expectations.

Maybe it’ll end up being a jobs bill without any jobs, just like the Senate gave us a health care reform bill without any actual health care reform in it.

Especially since the Rethuglicans have a 41 vote Majority!

Maybe they are offering us the job of reading their minds with regard to details.
Or, maybe they just don’t want to worry our beautiful minds with potential ugliness.

I’m off to the gym to work out. See yaz.

Your just being mean, poor demos.

Just think of haw many jobs will be “saved.”

The Democrats should be going all out on a We’re going to get America back to Work program. Instead they are running scared from the Republicans. Obama is talking about reducing deficits. Congressional Democrats won’t even talk about a real stimulus. But they feel compelled to do something because it is an election year. So they are reduced to putting together a bunch of piecemeal proposals, like this one, and hoping that this will help them in November. It won’t. Voters want change they can see and measure. The Democrats are quite simply unable to deliver, either because they are too afraid or more likely too in the pocket of corporations and special interests.

By not passing meaningful insurance reform, deaths will accelerate as the corporate killing spree goes into high gear.

That means more service jobs will open up, which is good news for those that live.

The Ds never missed an opportunity to mess up. At each decision point it’s been pretty clear which way to go, and they’ve chosen a different path every time.

The Dems or Reps do not have the guts to do the right things to create jobs and bring back prosperity back to America.

First, we must cancel these bogus trade deals of NAFTA, CAFTA, and GAT. Second, impose a 30% tariff on all imports. Third, eliminate the privately owned Federal Reserve banking system and usury. Fourth, back up each dollar with a measure of silver or gold. Fifth, cut the military budget in half to 350 billion. Sixth, use the other 350 billion for infrastructure projects. Seventh, extend unemployment benefits, COBRA and expand Medicare for all Americans.

If these seven steps were done, we would have zero unemployment and the most prosperous, healthy and happy people on the face of the earth.

They ensure people get more skeptical every day. And posters on some blogs have the nerve to say there is a world of difference between these two parties. Nope. One screws you, and screams nationalism while doing it. The other one screws you while pretending that they are buffoons, inept, or there was no other way. Vote them all out by 2012. Every last incumbent. Maybe then they’ll have a light bulb go off that will tell them to toss the lowly serfs a bone once in awhile.

Wow still the Republicans fault that jobs are not being created.

I was watching my esteemed Governor Granhom last night and was thinking it is no wonder why this state is in the condition it is in. Nice to hear she is finally in job mode after 7 years of being in office, however she does only seem to be concerned about “green jobs” and somehow it is the governments responsibility to create those jobs. Wonder what would happen if she lowered corporate tax rates and got the hell out of the way.

Danger, folks! Bozh writing. If u’r well educated, don’t read this nonsense. U can expect bad diction, grammar, syntax, spelling, etc.That’s because i finished last in my class!

Until just a yr ago, WH was issuing threats to iran by telling it: Don’t think we cannot wage another war.
Today with people screaming, it appears good [make it excellent] politics not to even mention military let alone warfaring.
But yes ab jobs, economy, bankers, corporations.

?every pol thinks or frets mostly of being reelected.So, they never ever fail to make oodless of mostly tacit promises, but always in a vague language or language open to onethousand-andone interpretations.

May i please give u an example what a tacit promise is? Voting promises tacitly that by electing a new management team in the WH, congress, or even judiciary, change for better wld occur.

And it had. There is now more b’naires in US than ever. Cia, army is getting larger and ‘better’. The system of rule gets ‘better’ for WH, congress, generals, banking.
There’s more wars than ever. And for rich people it cldn’t be better?

Now i give u an explicit and impious promise: U’ll [never?] hear from me again!!! Also sprachen alle politikern!danke

LOL! That does seem to be what happens regularly. It makes me wonder what the mission of this administration is.

I am so sick of the republicans. Where in our constitution does it give the republicans the right to be in charge of everything? They seem to believe they are the only ones who can be in charge of Washington, yet some of the best legislation was inacted by the democrats. The only balanced budget was done by a democrat president, of coarse, they want the credit for it since they controlled both the house and the senate. If that was true then Obama would be getting the deficit down instead of up. It’s called leadership. Social security by FDR, Medicare by Johnson. THe republicans hate those laws, but my perspective says those two laws is what makes America great. If the republicans would quit raiding the funds in those two accounts to fight their wars (incidently for corporate interests), the accounts would have a plenty of funds.

“You’ll see incentives to kickstart construction and infrastructure projects by adding money to the Highway Trust Fund, …”

What happened to all the construction and infrastructure jobs from the $787B Porkulus bill?

Pure smoke and mirrors by Reid and dems.

Sure, let’s vote before we tell our constituents what we’re voting on, assuming “we” the Senate even know. That way, we can claim to have voted “for jobs” ahead of the Nov. elections. What jobs, in what sectors, with what permanence and what efficiency in tax dollars spent, we’ll sort out later, eh. Reminds me of what happens when you wear a two-part donkey suit, but the other two guys get both parts with the heads and ears.

Has it dawned on any of you that we already had a 787 BILLION dollar Jobs bill called Stimulus? This Government simply isn’t the best mechanism for “Job Creation”.

They need to start passing meaningful bills with some real substance to them. amjad hourani

Hmmm… the last bill that was called the “jobs bill” was a 300something billion give away to the insurance cartel right after 9/11. It got maybe 2 days mention in the LA Times and screamed through congress… why? because we stopped building… why? because of terrorists.. why couldn’t we build any more buildings because of terrorists? because the banks wouldn’t lend money… too frightened of terrorists. So all this money went to pay for special “terrorist insurance” which businesses (at least near airports) are still paying every year today, so we could have our building jobs back. SHEESH!

Yeah, and how much of that ‘stimulus’ bill is crap like tax cuts (which are REALLY helpful when you don’t have a job at all) designed to gain non-existent R votes?

I’m always a bit skeptical about the kind of make-work job that Congress sees as “jobs bills”. Building new roads, mostly–not even fixing existing bridges. But directly hiring a few more construction workers in, inevitably, temporary jobs doesn’t do much good. What we need is something that actually redistributes the wealth in this country from the high-rollers who waste it on financial scams and gambling to those who need it for real economic activity.

A single-payer healthcare bill would be a real jobs bill. It would keep us healthier while freeing up potentially huge amounts of government and consumer money that could support real, permanent jobs. Just having more sales tax receipts would keep a lot of teachers working and they could hire daycare providers, buy cars, and hire roofers.

A real banking reform bill would be a jobs bill. It would get bankers out of the gambling business and back into ordinary lending. It would establish national usury laws. It would divert money from the predatory and purely unproductive financial sector to real production and manufacture.

Restoration of fair bankruptcy protections would be a jobs bill. Every person that gets a new start is a person who can start buying again and start supporting the economy. A person who avoids foreclosure and homelessness can still get or keep a job and pay the property taxes that keep those teachers in work.

Reforming the tax laws in ways that redistribute wealth from the minority at the top to the majority below would be a jobs bill.

Cutting off all funding for the wars would be a jobs bill.

In short, almost any of the things that this Congress and this President were elected to do would constitute jobs bills. But a bill that just hires a few people to pour concrete and pick up some trash doesn’t qualify.

This is the REAL problem isn’t it?

Well its harder to undo those things than we think. The WTO can block any changes to trade agreements and then if the media gets wind of it, you’re called a Protectionist by Free Market wonks.

It would be a heavy lift.

Now to the guy that said the Stimulus was a Job’s Bill. Ummm actually that’s not quite correct. It was mostly to help State’s stay afloat and funding for some infrastructure projects and of course 1/3 of it sas tax cuts not targeted at anybody in particular.

We (California) just got our Stimulus funds for the High Speed Rail System to match the State funds we voted on, long with electing Obama.

That IS jobs program whenever they actually break ground on it and has far reaching job creation opportunities in the years to come as it will go from LA to SF first, then to OC and SD and while the OC part is being built the connection to LV will be made.

There some “Green” job credits in the Stimulus as well.

Not sure what “Jobs” the Government will create without direct hiring, which actually isn’t a bad idea and some economist have called just for that, FDR did it.

The Federal Government through the Labor Dept can actually contract people to work for the Government but in the Private Sector.

I wouldn’t count on the Private Sector either most jobs are in the Service Sector and they are often low paying and lack benefits.

There’s little chance of them coming up with something that either won’t have Wall St pundits on Bloomberg screaming the Government is pushing out private investment or the Republicans saying Small Businesses are the victims of this Government Takeover of Jobs…

So as with Health Care, if you REALLY want to get something done, work with US or GTFOW!

I agree just corrections in our foreign policy, national policy and how we regulate financial services would be a “Jobs Bill” without having the need for one.

But its this lack of political will to do so, will lead to a so-so jobs bill that like you said will get some new roads built, maybe repair some others, bridges and others things, maybe water ways.

But if you can’t afford to say install solar panels and State’s are cutting back subsidies, no job creation. If you than say, increase subsidies to the point that maybe families under $50K get up to 4kw of solar power for free installed (not free but paid for by the Fed) then that would create jobs because many middle class families in Sunbelt and Sunny States would SWARM on that.

You could do the same for Geo-Thermal Heating/Cooling in Snowy States once it melts…

I should point out that Maine Solar House has had several winters of Solar Energy so this is not just for sunny areas of the country.

Look “Green Jobs” are a reality, it just has to be massively adopted to create massive job growth and if the private sector is unwilling to do that without a profit motive attached too it, then that leaves the Federal Government and frankly I don’t see a problem with promoting clean energy and if you made it affordable by back stopping loans or giving direct funding too, MANY Americans are willing to switch to renewable power, trust me, unless you live in an apartment or some council controlled community where they also limit your access to TV to only OTA or Cable provided by the big 3-4 cable companies…

I don’t know what other “jobs” you want to create since our economy has switched from majority maker of things to a purchaser of things. Any regulation that comes out of Washington usually means the worker taking the grunt of what the outcome is because you don’t have the protection of a Labor Union or progressive Labor Dept laws. If you did, then as our trade agreements allow is the outsourcing of jobs wherever they can get the cheapest cost.

So without a total re-write of labor and trade agreements, you can only basically “grow” the jobs market by adding another sector. That’s what we did with the Internet boom. That added jobs that weren’t around before the explosion of the Internet.

So Green Jobs is a sector of growth and something Wall St is ready to invest heavily in. It doesn’t require years of class work, most of the jobs can be trained for in less than a semester at your local community college, I know I’m going to such a class at LA Trade Tech in Los Angeles.

Green Technology is the next big “Boom” in our economy its just a question of making hay with it because it will eventually crash when the market is saturated and mass adoption has taken place, prices will drop and demand will go down.

So if we can get 5-10 years of massive growth and improve our daily lives weather its lower energy cost or high speed rail/expanded light rail, I see this is a net positive.

You’re still going to have most of the jobs created by the Service Sector no matter what you do, more workers out there results in other services being used, creating jobs to meet demand.

The problem largely in our economy is that demand went down far enough to create job lost. Wall St’s mismanagement of credit services lead to big ticket items not being purchased, etc, etc.

You return this back to what is the normalcy with largely many of the bigger problems unfixed, people will largely shut up because Americans are a whole are SELFISH.

Most American’s won’t “Move Their Money”, won’t join a “Credit Card Revolt”, they are just waiting for the storm to be over (those with jobs) so they can go back to buying trinkets they largely don’t need (see IPad), most other Americans just want that as well.