Paul Begala thinks he’s found a nut:
Begala, in an interview today with TPM, said Democrats should force the GOP to bring their ideas into the public eye.
“Why don’t we put Mr. Ryan’s budget up to a vote?” he said. “Make them vote on it.”
Democrats, he argued, should stop calling Republicans the “party of no.”
“They have ideas, and lots of them. And their ideas ruin the country,” Begala said.
There’s a serious problem with the 24-hour news cycle – even the most plugged-in operatives forget the past. The House put Mr. Ryan’s budget up to a vote LAST YEAR. They did make the GOP vote on it. In fact, the vote split their caucus:
Before passing the Democratic budget proposal, the House rejected an alternative proposal put forward by the GOP leadership, which called for $4.8 trillion less in overall spending over the next decade, in part through a five-year freeze in most non-defense discretionary spending.
Among other things, the House GOP’s version of the budget would have repealed the entire $787 billion economic stimulus package except for an extension of unemployment insurance benefits. It also would have rolled back a recently passed 8 percent spending boost in the budget for the remainder of the current fiscal year.
Thirty-eight Republicans voted against their own leadership’s bill in that vote, while two Democrats voted in favor of it. The final vote was 293-137 against the GOP proposal.
And that budget had almost exactly the same Medicare voucher program which would privatize the entire system and offer too-small vouchers to seniors to purchase health insurance. Note the part of the sentence in this post with the line “It didn’t generate a lot of attention.”
But that’s not for lack of trying. In fact, Democrats ran ads about it back in September, with the simple message: “Republicans want to end Medicare.”
Of course Democrats should force a vote on the Republican budget. They’d be arrested for political malpractice if they didn’t. But let’s not pretend it’s some wildly new idea. Democrats forced the same vote last year. It didn’t have much of an effect, especially considering it didn’t register with a party hack like Paul Begala. You have to actually coordinate your message and use your various messaging outlets to make something like this stick. And those barely exist on the Democratic side, certainly not to the extent of the tightly focused Republican noise machine.
UPDATE: Meanwhile, here’s Paul Ryan trying to convince everyone that this is just his idiosyncratic proposal and not anything the Republicans would want to pick up, being the budget proposal from their ranking member on the Budget Committee and all:
Ryan has been pushing his own plan, called “A Roadmap for America’s Future.” The detailed proposal, first unveiled two years ago during the Bush presidency and tweaked since, has captured national attention of late in the pages of the Wall Street Journal and Washington Post, and on various cable and network television shows [...]
Ryan said his plan is not the Republican alternative to President Barack Obama’s budget plan. Rather, he said, it is a long-term plan to address the country’s pressing financial needs.
“This is not a GOP bill. This is my plan,” he said.
Please. The signature piece of the Roadmap is a voucher system that would privatize Medicare and give seniors a too-small benefit to purchase insurance, ratcheted down below health inflation over time. The signature piece of the 2009 Republican budget was a voucher system that would privatize Medicare and give seniors a too-small benefit to purchase insurance, ratcheted down below health inflation over time.



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I wouldnt get away from the catchy slogan of the goopers as the party of no.
It should be expanded to they are the party of no and of no good ideas.
Someone should have a talk with the “Forehead.” Maybe “DeadFish,” these guys just don’t get it. Let’s get an Army “Corps-man” to check this guys blood pressure….it’s done, kaput, the game is over and Scott Brown shot the winning basket!
The only way Dems (GOPs) win is when GOPs (Dems) are in power and things fall apart. Neither ever wins because voters have any respect for them. Says volumes about our nitwit phony 2 party system.
They do not express themselves in ideas but only in action or in irritable mental gestures which seek to resemble ideas.
I’m glad to see some peeps still practice journalism. y’know, researching the subject and what’s been said before, putting things into context?
excellent post dday.
“excellent post dday.” He seems to do that repeatedly, doesn’t he?
In the meantime, according to this survey 75% of Murcans are angry at Washington (Note: it’s Rasmussen).
Although I don’t trust Rasmussen polls, I would be very surprised if the number were not higher. I’ve never seen the country so totally pissed off.
medic
the American people need to wake up!
The Corporations and elites have purchased the White House, Congress, and Supreme Court.
The concept of Govt By the People for People, has been turned into something evil. (The MSM which is own by the Corporations hates the idea of Grass Root Movements or Populist Politics, in other words they hate Govt By the People for People)
To take back out Govt from the Corporations, we are going to have to elect Congress People who fear the will of the people, more than they fear Exxon.
Obama was at best a trojan horse use to demoralize the progressive movement.
Obama has not championed any progressives causes
Public Option? No Obama Support
Stop the Wars In Afghan, Iraq, and Now Pakistan,? Obama increase the wars
Drug Importation? Obama killed this idea
Insurance Individual Mandate? Obama love the idea of making everybody pay for Insurance without a Public Option
Progressives need to re-organize, and develop a game plan built around real progressive candidates.
Everyone talks about Ben Nelson, Joe Lieberman, etc. being the hurdles for the HCR Scam? where did all the so call progressives go when we needed a VOICE to fight for the Public Option?
We must send real progressives to Washington this year!
First we need to find some progressives who are willing to take on the firmly entrenched and very well funded Blue Dogs.
Didn’t allow vote on public option but eager to on repub ideas.
It only shows they don’t know how to govern. Only proving they are lost when in power and maybe even afraid if their legislation actually passes. They don’t deserve to be in power, that is the conclusion people will reach from all this bipartisanship. They need to get their legislation actully passed.
The strategy of electing blue dogs who don’t believe in dem party platform has proven to be wrong and ultimately losing. It is being destroyed from within.
There has to be some dem senator who is willing to take up leadership mantle and rally dems as WH clearly is not willing.
This has now gotten worse. Since the WH and Congress screwed up on “Health Care for All”, watered down to thinnest gruel in “health care reform”, and now officially proclaimed (by Plouffe) as “health insurance reform,” the insurance corporations,Big Pharma, and the hospital and health systems industry are taking things into their own hands. Here it comes, folks.
Jane has a fresh cross-post up: Rahm Emanuel and Failure of 11 Dimensional Chess
Ah raven, Politicalcircusblog is just trying his hand at some right wing snark.
Failing of course but what can ya expect?
Snark This! Succeeding not trying, again Paul” the Forehead” Begala, James” Chrome Dome” Carville, Rahm “Dead Fish” Emmanuel are all part of the Big Government culture. They currently own the Congress, why can’t they get their agenda passed? They do not need Republican votes, c’mon Dakine01, the math can’t be that tough!
Not sure how to respond to this.
But since the names you provide are all members of the corporatist branch of the Dem party and wouldn’t hold a single progressive position amongst them, what’s your point?
After all, they’re the ones who seem like they need the Republican votes (which will most likely never be forthcoming as the Republicans are far more interested in playing gotcha than in, you know, that pesky common good for ALL citizens, rather than just for the Beltway thieves)
Folks please do not feed.
There is a place for this…TH.com blog…
Good read thanks.