A high-level exchange of letters Monday night in snowy Washington, as the House Republican leadership essentially paves the way for blowing off President Obama’s proposed health care summit by asking for a list of demands, and the White House responds by basically rejecting them.
First, the Republican letter, from Minority Leader John Boehner and Minority Whip Eric Cantor, asking 10 questions about the proposed talks, few of which were actual questions rather than requests. “Will (the President) agree to start over” on a new bill is one, and another asks if reconciliation, the process allowing the Senate to pass budget-related items with only 50 votes, is off the table. Other requests are familiar – wanting whatever legislative proposal on display at the summit to be up on the Web for 72 hours, for example. But most of them are intended to outflank the Democrats by bringing up some of the faults of the bill’s process to this point. For example:
Will the President include in this discussion congressional Democrats who have opposed the House and Senate health care bills? This bipartisan discussion should reflect the bipartisan opposition to both the House bill and the kickbacks and sweetheart deals in the Senate bill [...]
Finally, as you know, this is the first televised White House health care meeting involving the President since last March. Many health care meetings of the closed-door variety have been held at the White House since then, including one last month where a sweetheart deal was worked out with union leaders. Will the special interest groups that the Obama Administration has cut deals with be included in this televised discussion?
Of course, Americans have been dismayed by the fact that the President has broken his own pledge to hold televised health care talks. We can only hope this televised discussion is the beginning, not the end, of attempting to correct that mistake. Will the President require that any and all future health care discussions, including those held on Capitol Hill, meet this common-sense standard of openness and transparency?
“Your answers to these critical questions will help determine whether this will be a truly open, bipartisan discussion or merely an intramural exercise before Democrats attempt to jam through a job-killing health care bill that the American people can’t afford and don’t support,” the letter concludes. Clearly, there’s a lot of positioning here, preparing the ground for inevitably having to cancel out of the summit.
How did Robert Gibbs, White House Press Secretary, respond? Thusly.
The President is adamant that we seize this historic moment to pass meaningful health insurance reform legislation. He began this process by inviting Republican and Democratic leaders to the White House on March 5 of last year, and he’s continued to work with both parties in crafting the best possible bill. He’s been very clear about his support for the House and Senate bills because of what they achieve for the American people: putting a stop to insurance company abuses, extending coverage to millions of hardworking Americans, getting control of rising premiums and out-of-pocket costs, and reducing the deficit.
The President looks forward to reviewing Republican proposals that meet the goals he laid out at the beginning of this process, and as recently as the State of the Union Address. He’s open to including any good ideas that stand up to objective scrutiny. What he will not do, however, is walk away from reform and the millions of American families and small business counting on it. The recent news that a major insurer plans to raise premiums for some customers by as much as 39 percent is a stark reminder of the consequences of doing nothing.
It doesn’t answer a whole lot, but states pretty firmly that the bills which passed the House and Senate would be the base for discussion, and they would not be scrapped. I fully expect Republicans to sorrowfully say that they can no longer participate in such a sham of an exercise.
This will doubtlessly make David Broder weep real tears. But the summit was more of an exercise than anything else, and now the real exercise will be the spin war over which side backed out or which side proved their point. Republicans don’t want a bill at all and don’t want to help Democrats get to one, and Democrats just wanted to add a patina of transparency and bipartisanship onto the process to soothe jittery members of their caucus. Doesn’t look like this summit will provide that.



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If reconciliation is off the table, does that mean the filibuster is as well?
That should leave a mark on President Bipartisan to have bipartisanship thrown back in his face.
This political positioning for photo-ops and trying to lure people into traps, and free themselves form those apparent traps is all a bunch of BS. I think the Boehner call to make everything public is pretty damn good. don’t pick and choose the transparency…there is nothing national security like about health care….televise everything….how can Gibbs oppose that?
The GOP leadership is essentially treating the administration as if it were kim jung il, or Hamas, in that they are setting preconditions for negotiations. In essence, “cave in prior to negotiating, or there is no negotiating.” Bush famously used this technique as part of his wonderfully successful foreign policy.
The health care summit is useless and boring. Every time I hear the words “health care” my contempt for the Democratic Party increases. The party should give up on the issue and never speak of it again.
Ha ha, what a bunch of dicks. We’re doomed with these jokers as our government. ‘adamantly seizing’ or ‘seizing adamantly’? Cripes.
For once, I agree with the GOP. Now, if the progressives could show similar spine….
Boxturtle (I say it’s SPINACH and I say to heck with it)
I particularly liked the bit about the republicans bringing in their own experts. Can you imagine…
That’s the whole idea. For it to be televised.
Fixed it for ya!
Boxturtle (How many times must Lucy pull the football away before you learn?)
Excellent point.
Every time I hear the Republicans say “health care” I want to drive a spike in my head, and tell the Dems to ignore these dimwitted a-holes, kill-the-fil, and pass single payer!
Great read, David, although the photo of Boehner and Cantor almost made me lose my oatmeal. a couple very sleazy creatures…
You should write a diary about this.
Someone on Countdown mentioned that specifically as a bargaining point response to the suggestion.
for all negotioations to be televised…not just some dog and pony show to try and make the republicans look stupid.
Absolutely. As a result – our pending agreement with N.Korea was ruined, the distance from Iran became limitless, and even those he courted like Mexico grew estranged. Any wonder that bipartisanship is being kicked to the curb by the right, while public regrets are continually being mouthed?
“look”?
It’ll make a lot of the democrats look stupid as well.
Boxturtle (I’m talking to YOU, Holy Joe!)
WASHINGTON — Republican Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama will stop blocking Senate confirmation of about 70 government appointees nominated by President Barack Obama, his office said.
Fucking retard
This will please many. Beer is good for your health.
That is NOT a Sarah Palin approved use of the word retard.
Please resign your job now.
-G
Been sayin it for years.
Heh.
Hopefully this will be the death-knell for the notion of a “bipartisan summit”, and the Democrats can get back to the details of passing legislation via reconciliation. There’s more than enough “bipartisanship” involved in just negotiating with the Blue Dogs – an opposition party within the majority party. Continuing to compromise with Republicans hoping to obtain their approval (which everyone knows will never be forthcoming) is to deliberately choose defeat.
Colbert hits it out of the park on this retarded issue.
Have to post good news wherever you can find it these days.
The kabuki has reached a fevered pitch! Everybody in Performance Fleece!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJCyREC2a_Y
But the summit was more of an exercise than anything else, and now the real exercise will be the spin war over which side backed out or which side proved their point.
And once again, the Obama WH baits the Republicans into being their unwitting(?) partners in drawing the focus and locus of discussion away from the House which is trying to hold the line against the Senate for some sort of Public Option and other improvements.
This says SO MUCH about the Obama White House: The Power Harvesting Gang of Four.
I saw that. Unlike the hate filled rantings of the blubbery oxycontin junkie, what Colbert did is satire.
-G
I really think Obama would have done better to run as a moderate Republican. That way he could act exactly the way he’s acted to this point. The Republican’s would have loved his bipartisanship and things would not be any worse than they are today for the Democrats.
they are just pretending to govern. like people pretend that an article titled “Boehner And Cantor Offer List Of Demands For Health Care Summit; Gibbs Responds” actually means anything.
That is an excellent point.
We can’t agree to give up reconciliation unless you agree to give up filibustering.
Just keep watching Stewart and Colbert. It will keep you sane.
The hell with those two anti Americans, Baehner and Cantor.
When are the Dems going to grow some stones, jump in the Side Car of reconciliation and drive for Medicare for all?
If the Neocon republicans derail it, they will have hell to pay next election.
The GOP is in the driver’s seat now on health care reform. They do not need to do anything because they know that the majority of Americans now favor starting over or doing nothing.
The GOP is calling the president’s bluff on transparency, bipartisanship and political gimmicks masquerading as serious policy discussion.
You have a point, albeit that would not have worked either. Back in the day, McCain was kinda/sorta a “moderate Republic,” and like many on the left, I used to have some respect for the guy because he often acted with his conscience.
You will note, however, what the GOP did to McCain: they saddled him with Palin & the rest is history.
Moderate Republican is an oymoron… The Democratic party now is the party of “moderate republicanism,” and you see the results of THAT! It doesn’t work either.
Boehner & Cantor: two lesser spooges are not known on the planet. When I hear HCR these these days I just want to bang my head against a brick wall because it would feel so much better than having to watch this kabuki show. BAH
Great Point.
Obama is a moderate republican.
It would be insane for a real progressive to act like this. We all know the senate bill is a republican bill.
Obama and the Blue Dogs are trying to find cover from the left and real progressives. Cantor and the Gop know that Obama is neglecting his base.
The current political climate is destroying all of these crazy notions about how the american voter loves the status quo. Simply put, the day of center right or center left politics is over.
Progressive must find a real progressive to run for president in 2012. Obama does not want to face reality, the day center right politics is over.
[/foxnews]
“Three-fourths of independents have a favorable view of the tea party movement and say one-party control of the White House and Congress has been bad.”
http://blogs.investors.com/capitalhill/index.php/home/35-politics/1371-americans-losing-hope-looking-for-change
MSNBC, Rachel Maddow, Keith Olberman, Chris Matthews are largely responsible for the success of the Tea Party movement. Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid, and Barack Obama as well.
“By calling us Tea Baggers, and racists, and Nazis, and rubes, and hicks… by pretending we’re just a fringe group of dangerous radicals, or saying – as the President did, twice, and apparently with a straight face – that he was unaware that tens or hundreds of thousands of hard-working American patriots were clogging the streets of the city he lives in – well all of these geniuses poured can after can of lighter fluid on to what might have been some old, wet charcoal – nearly impossible to light – and turned it into a wildfire that will likely remake the landscape of this country. That’s why there’s a Tea Party.”
http:/pajamasmedia.com/ejectejecteject/2010/02/08/party-time/
We couldn’t have done it without you.
The definition of insanity: Repeating the same behavior and expecting different results.
Somehow, I just don’t think Obama has any else in his bag o’tricks.
A thought struck me last night that Obama is trying to woo the republicans because he just doesn’t know how to get things done and maybe they’ll help him govern. They really ought to seize the chance, they could prolly get him to do anything they want…. another missed opportunity!
It’s getting pretty obvious that his strong man, Rahm, doesn’t know sh*t about running a government either.
Yee Gads!
Way too late for that.
The Republicans have looked stupid for years.
How did Robert Gibbs, White House Press Secretary, respond? Thusly.
“The President is adamant that we seize this historic moment to pass meaningful health insurance reform legislation.”
I thought we were trying to pass HEALTHCARE legislation? Insurance reform would be just one component of that process.
All reason ceases to exist as one approaches the epicenter of Conservative Ideology.
Obama is determine to bailout the Insurance companies.
The idea of calling the Insurance Bailout Plan, Health Care Reform is very deceptive and dis-honest.
I love what the Republicans done here by requesting that experts attend this TV Health Care SHAM, Obama and the Blue Dogs do not want the likes of Wendell Potter or any other Health/Insurance expert around this SCAM.
An intelligent progressive president would not waste his or her time talking to the clowns of the GOP about Health Care.
He or She would have a TV broadcast about real Health Care Reform with people like Wendell Potter.
Because a real progressive president would believe in Govt By the People For the People.
I do. An expression of disgust and contempt for the Democratic Party ability to get a Health Care Reform bill done is a valid opinion.
Is not an ad hominen attack as is your comment.
Here’s my predictions on the televised HC Summit proposal…
Rethugs make outrageous demands (done).
WH responds with the usual lame, vague and incoherent statements to rethug demands (done).
Summit gets cancelled, rethugs blame dems and they just sit there and take it in the ass issuing “logical, rational and calm” counter statements about the lack of bipartisanship.
Rethugs amp up their spin machine and pounds the living shit out of the the Prez, the WH, the dems and anybody else they can think of for “not acting on HCR”.
Prez, WH and dems wring hands and pee in their pants some more.
Rethugs win yet another round and get more seats in the senate and house in Nov. 2010.
And still – no HCR with a PO.
Ahh – Only in America is 41 a majority over 59…
I live in Cantor’s Congressional District. I have written to him many times. My most recent question of him was: Is health care a right based on need, or a privilege based on money? His answer — Gobbledygook.
Whooo Hooo…..
And IPA is the best!!!!
Suck on than Anheiser-Busch with the liquid you sell, passed by those large horses, that you label “beer”….Tastes like Horse Piss….
Only Republicans can use Retard, and they have trademarked all Rwords.
Democrats are divided as usual on trademarking D for Democrat, L for Liberal, P for Progressive, or J for Jerks.
Send Bonehead and Cankersore home bleeding and bruised… They deserve all the abuse that can be heaped on them and more. Just get a can of spray-tan and let them heal on their own… If we’re lucky, they won’t be back.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but health care is not a Right. Name one of the Constitutional Rights based on “need”.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Hahahahaha. When I went to school it was the U.S. Constitution that defined and protected our Rights. Not the UN.
Free speech is needed in a democracy, Free press is needed in a democratic republic. I need the right not to give evidence against myself.
I have the need to be secure in my papers in a free society. I have the need to petition the Government if I disagree with policy etc.. I have the need to protect myself from harm with firearms if I choose. Also I have the right to sing the blues if I need to do so.
Your right to sing the blues was addressed in your first sentence.
Repetition for emphasis
To readdress the original article, Gibbs just got owned by Boehner’s office.
Here’s the letter where the Republicans asked for WH meetings on May 13th.
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM110_100209_letter_to_potus.html
Here’s the WH response on June 2nd.
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM110_100209_potus_response.html
The WH has been disingenuous in their supposed bi-partisan approach.