The situation in Indiana in the wake of the retirement of Evan Bayh is becoming a bit clearer.
Tamyra d’Ippolito, the cafe owner from Bloomington who had been running a no-budget campaign for the primary, used the tail end of her 15 minutes of fame to punch out multiple updates on her Facebook page, claiming she was absolutely going to qualify for the ballot and then adding this:
The leaders of our country never desired for us to be hung up on numbers of signatures. They wanted us to vote for the best person to be in office to represent the people.
It’s an interesting Constitutional challenge, to be sure, the “there were no petition signature gathering rules in the 18th century” defense. But I don’t think it’ll fly.
Now who knows, maybe she actually has the signatures, as she told Fox News today. But reaching out at the last minute to “teabaggers” to sign her petition doesn’t show a ton of political savvy or inspire confidence that she’ll get it done.
In that case, if there’s no Democratic qualifier for the ballot, there wouldn’t be a primary, and instead the state Democratic Party would handpick a candidate for November. Evan Bayh, for his part, called this a good thing last night to state Democratic leaders.
Bayh said the timing of his announcement could be a positive for Democrats. The source said that Bayh told the call that the lack of a primary would mean that the Republican party candidates would attack each other on their own, with no Democrats to get in the way. On the Democratic side of the process, according to the source, Bayh said officials would choose a strong nominee from their “deep bench.”
“He said, ‘if this goes to the state committee then we’ll have selected a candidate without a divisive primary,’” the source told me this evening.
With less than a week until the deadline for potential candidates to gather the necessary signatures to get listed on the primary ballot, it’s unlikely that there could be a Democratic primary to replace Bayh even if Democrats wanted one. But, according to the source, Bayh and Parker suggested on the call that not having a public vote on who Indiana’s next Democratic nominee for Senate will be could be a positive come November.
Yes, if there’s one thing people like, it’s not having a say in their candidates. That’s why there’s that mass popular movement to repeal the 17th Amendment.
But setting that aside, who would then be the likely candidate to replace Bayh? One pick who was talked about as a replacement bowed out yesterday:
According to a national Democratic official speaking on the condition of anonymity, the Democratic short list to replace Bayh is: U.S. Rep. Brad Ellsworth of Evansville, U.S. Rep. Baron Hill of Seymour and Evansville Mayor Jonathan Weinzapfel.
Weinzapfel, who is considering a 2012 run for governor, immediately withdrew himself from consideration, saying in a statement he is honored to be mentioned, but “not interested in pursuing this opportunity.”
Former Indianapolis Mayor Bart Peterson and US Rep. Joe Donnelly also declined a run yesterday, as did former Governor Joe Kernan. As for the remaining candidates, Hill and Ellsworth still appear to be available, along with names like former state Attorney General Joe Hogsett, state lawmaker Vi Simpson, 2008 gubernatorial candidate Jim Schellinger and former DNC Chair Joe Andrew.
The issue with Hill and Ellsworth is parallel to the issue with Bayh; if they are plucked out of their House races, whatever candidate running in a primary against them gets to fight to be the nominee, and if there is no candidate, the state party would choose that nominee as well. There are a couple no-budget candidates in Hill’s race, which essentially means conceding that seat to former Rep. Mike Sodrel. As of the moment nobody is challenging Ellsworth, which means the successor could be handpicked (Weinzapfel, from this district, would return to the mix in that case). But that open seat would still be difficult to hold in this environment.
Indiana Democrats have until June 30 to make this decision, provided that d’Ippolito doesn’t surprise and make it onto the ballot.
UPDATE: According to Indiana Democratic Party chair Dan Parker, d’Ippolito has 22 signatures for the ballot, somewhat less than 4,500.





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AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen David Dayen and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Any Firepups from Indiana out there who can tell us about this d’Ippolito folk? My God, Indiana politics makes Mississippi’s look like democracy.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, IT’S THE WARS STUPID!!
Don’t worry. Rahm’s got everything under control of his 11-dimension chess game.
Oh yes, David, thanks for highlighting how quaint it would be for voters to actually, you know, vote.
The Nation magazine has suggested John Mellencamp to replace Bayh. If nothing else, that selection would attract MSM attention.
Did he do any signature collection? Petitions are due at noon today.
goodmorning.im cold
Wishy-hopey-washey “stuff” gittin’ to ya, eh, eCAHN?
Ain’t ya glad we is on the reality based side of things?
And not acting all silly and such like?
DW
No, I don’t even think that The Nation asked him before floating his name. I think that The Nation was advocating that Mellencamp be “selected” by the State Democratic Party as the Dempocratic candidate over the other career politicians mentioned in David’s posting above. Yeah, not gonna happen, but it could be fun, and Mellencamp has been associated with progressive causes.
Full disclosure: I got all wishful thinkin’ on Spencer’s thread, so who’m I ta say?
A couple of weeks ago, Amy Goodman interviewed someone who had posted a Craig’s List ad in an effort to recruit a “people’s candidate.” They were quite serious and had a list of 5 finalists that were being interviewed at a public library a few days later.
I don’t know how it is working out, but I thought it was an interesting idea.
Bayh really did not do the “little people” any good with his timing. The process takes time, regardless how it happens.
IN has over 6 million people. It is hard to politically penetrate if one has not run a state wide campaign. I don’t know anything about IN politics. But I think we can all agree that Bayh is for Bayh.
Any body talk to John, ’bout this yet?
Seems a we ought to start there.
But, I haven’t heard.
Have you, rob?
Seems like there’s not a lot of interest in being Bayh’s replacement. What if they called an election and nobody came?
John Lennon appreciates you.
And so do I.
That was gooood.
This timing, to take the choice away from the people, and the resulting uncomfortable situation of not knowing who will win the Primary, or the Election, is becoming noticeably common.
Telling PA that Arlen Specter is to be the D candidate. It’s just wrong.
But it is becoming common.
I will try to avoid making the same comment over and over, but these stories just stand out to my view as — Yeah, they’re doing the same thing here.
cc
What to do about it?
To anybody who thinks the timing of Bayh’s quitting was an accident, that it wasn’t indeed tightly coordinated with Rahmbama, I have a beuatiful bridge down in Brooklyn I would love to sell you.
You didn’t really think Rahmbama was going to leave this in the hands of Democratic primary voters, you know, Rahm’s fucking retards. Did you?
Adding I wonder what they are going to do to make sure Ford gets the nod here in NY…
Do Rahm&Co think they can shove a candidate down the voters throats or are they just giving the Republicans a freebie in the spirit of bipartisanship?
No mention in the article of Mellencamp being formally asked, but I’ve not seen any immediate rejection of the “draft Mellencamp” movement either. Here is a link to the article (I hope I’m doing this right):
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/530594/senator_mellencamp
I live in PA, ccusick and my disgust knows no bounds.
Somehow the Dem “leadership”(?) dosen’t, apparently, give a damn.
The Lesser Weevil?
Uh huh ….
“Magic Bullet” is about as popular as this protracted winter storm season.
Don’t imagine things are gonna warm up, any time soon, though, for Arlen.
DW
State or national?
Maybe he is waiting to see which way the wind blows?
Somebody is amused.
But I’m not sure cultural heroes are the way to go, ‘specially if they are a wee tad “reluctant”, and frankly, I am not pleased to put anybody on the “spot”, as it were.
What would YOU do, were you in John’s place?
DW
Why do any of you want a Democratic senator from Indiana? They’re not going to do what you want them to do and you’ll just bitch and moan and demand they “act like Democrats” in spite of the fact that their constituency might not agree. Then you’ll set up an ActBlue account to primary them from the left when the conservative almost beat ‘em to begin with.
Why torture yourselves and the rest of us?
I got a chuckle out of that last question, as I’ve got a few too many skeletons rattling around my closet to lay my ass on the line publically. However, similar criticism was leveled at Al Franken, and he may turn out to be one of the best Senators when he builds up some seniority.
Franken has been good so far. I’m pleased.
Indiana can produce a MUCH better senator than Evan Bayh. Firepups aren’t going to be on the same side on issues like abortion and gay rights with the Indiana majority, but on economic issues, big business, health care, etc. a good candidate could certainly prevail with Indiana voters.
A Jim Hightower-ish progressive populist could do well here, I think. Trouble is, I don’t know who that person is. Certainly none of the names I’ve seen bandied about.
D’Ippolito as the Dem candidate would be the worst possible situation. She’s more likely to validate statewide conservative voters’ opinions of progressives–a flaky liberal from Bloomington running a failing business who is getting evicted for not paying her rent–instead of pushing the discourse to the left. D’Ippolito has done some nice things around town which are appreciated (founded the ‘Poor Club’, for example–terrible name though) and I have sympathy for her personal situation (husband died less than a year ago) but having her in the spotlight for a doomed US Senate run would be a propaganda coup for Republicans. I’m not surprised that Fox News has already had her on. A Republican is probably going to fill Bayh’s seat, and Bayh wasn’t much of a Democrat anyway, so it’s no big loss. Indiana’s ‘blue moment’ in 2008 is likely finished for quite a few years (and even that was tarnished by the inability to dump a vulnerable Mitch Daniels). The best we can hope for (short of the Mellencamp pipedream—and he would have to tone it down significantly) is that Baron Hill holds on to his seat in the 9th district).
I am afraid you’re exactly right. The resignation barely raised an eyebrow on campus and most of my students didn’t care. I don’t see another dem keeping the seat but I’m in Allen County so the perspective is somewhat skewed.