The only way for the health care bill to pass is for the House to pass the Senate bill with fixes achieved through a reconciliation “sidecar” process. There is no other path to 218 votes in the House, without changes to the Senate bill. While the bulk of those changes have largely been covered and even resolved in negotiations, Senate Democrats need to be willing to use the process, which has been trash-talked by Republicans into something extraordinary.
That’s how you get media reports like this, with a former Senate Parliamentarian saying how it my be difficult to pass policy fixes in reconciliation not related to the budget, when this is well-known by those who want to use the process, and nobody has suggested using it for anything else. The article, appearing in an insider paper, is nothing more than a way to depress enthusiasm for using reconciliation among Hill Democrats. The fact that the conservative Galen Institute hosted the conference call where this ex-Parliamentarian spoke gets short shrift in the article. Henry Aaron from the Brookings Institution, not exactly a lefty organization, disagrees and thinks that this situation is exactly what reconciliation was built for.
I question whether the House can round up the necessary 218 (actually 217 at the moment, because there are two vacancies) votes for passage, because of the elements that cannot be fixed in reconciliation, like the abortion funding issue. But the greater hurdle is the willingness among Senate Democrats to use the process, which could open it up for significant on-budget changes to the bill, like subsidy increases, Medicare buy-in or even the public option. That’s why Chris Bowers of OpenLeft has crowdsourced a journalism project, seeking answers from as many Senators as possible on whether they favor the process.
We will be engaging in a major group journalism event to help provide information on this whip count. To do this, we need a couple dozen volunteers willing to make media inquiries to Senators asking them the following questions:
Hello, my name is [FILL IN BLANK, use real name] and I have a media inquiry from Openleft.com. Can you please put me in contact with the pres secretary / communications director?
[And then, once in contact]
Hi, my name is [FILL IN BLANK, use real name] and I have a media inquiry from Openleft.com. Can you please tell me if:
1–Senator [FILL IN BLANK] supports using the reconciliation process to forge a deal with the House of Representatives and finish health reform?
and
2–Does Senator {FILL IN BLANK] support including a public option in that reconciliation process, including signing onto Senator Bennet’s letter on the public option?
The responses have been rolling in. Thus far, 20 Senate Democrats are on the record supporting the reconciliation process, with one maybe (Mark Pryor) and only two definite no’s (Blanche Lincoln and Evan Bayh). What’s more, John Kerry, Patrick Leahy, Sheldon Whitehouse and Al Franken have backed the effort started yesterday to pass the public option through the reconciliation process, making it 8 Senators on the record for that. Both of these responses need 50 yes votes out of the 59 Senate Democrats, because reconciliation cannot be filibustered.
This crowdsourcing effort has just begun, and I’ll be both monitoring the progress and participating to see how many Senators will go on the record about using this tool available to them to pass health care. If we learn by the end of the week, the guessing game can then stop.



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Terrific, this is time to push, since every attempt at any bipartisan effort to represent the public has been tried and has failed.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen David Dayen and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Here we go, pretty soon there will be nowhere for ObamaRahma to hide in this process. One Hung Harry Reid can only win re-election if the TeaParty candidate wins the fascist primary AND he gets healthcare reform out to his constituents…and Obama OWNS Reid! It’s clear to this old broken down low quarter, that we will learn all we need to know about Obama and whether or not he’s gunna be a one-term President in the next three weeks.
As Joe Lewis said about Billy Conn, “…he can run all day but he can’t hide.”
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, IT’S ALL ABOUT THE WARS BABY!!
Sign the EraofChange.org healthcare petition; make a donation. Ads are forthcoming about the public option via reconciliation.
Great idea, but, as has been proven in the last 8 years….they DON’T listen to petitions, they don’t listen to protests, and they don’t listen to calls and letters…they are stuck on corporate love. Frustrating? Nope, infuriating. What is the worst part? Almost every nation’s governments on the globe, are doing almost the exact same corporate love. I almost feel pity and sorry for the people that still support these clowns. It must be hard, and getting harder every day, to try and support these idiots online.
Citizen canadianbeaver:
In this single instance I think you’re wrong Citizen Beaverperson…in the past, petitions have been used to create a faction in congress to initiate action. This time, however, there is a growing faction in the Senate that is announcing it’s intensions so petitions and grassroots support can only help them stand up to ObamaRahma and pathetic One Hung Harry Reid. Sign the petition, and help Franken and Leahy get out in front of this before Rahm knows what hit ‘im.
Well I hope you are right because the options for ordinary citizens are extremely limited, short of violence and that usually doesn’t work the way it is intended either. I’ve always been told how negative I am, but the truth of the matter is, I’ve been around the block too many times, seeing nothing of value achieved. Sometimes these activities produce the odd bone thrown to the masses to shut them up, but even then, the bone tends to be completely meatless. Been on this earth over 50 years. Supported political parties. Demonstrated. Signed petitions. Almost everything humanly possible, and the results have almost always been as in the words of Dick Cheney. Politicians as a whole seem to be unreachable and untouchable. They belong to and live in a different world, lying and contradicting until they decide to retire to the corporate world. Does that make sense? Maybe I have the opposite of battered political wife syndrome.
Thanks David, this is really a great development.
The corporate agenda principally needs to stall legislation (while acting out a charade of ‘involvement in legislative processes’), and that’s why the filibuster has been so critical in covering Democratic cowardice. Peeling off that layer of butt-covering is essential.
It’s past time to separate the cowards and dilettantes from the serious legislators.
This should help.
Looking forward to the updates; this seems like a civil, fact-based, solution-oriented process and that’s why it is so heartening (to be part of and also watch).
Citizen canadianbeaver:
As many times as I’ve been around that same block I’m sure I’ve run inta you…I do feel for ya though if you’ve been fightin’ for social democracy and the NDP up there in Canadia for lo’ these many years. But the point is, grass roots support really works when there is an existing political faction in both houses of congress to get somethin’ done…grassroots movements can be ignored in the absense of elected leaders willing to wake the sleepin’ giant. Today there are significant groups of progressives in both houses who are willin to get out in front of popular legislation in an election year. And the progressives, especially in the House, are smellin’ blood back home on the issue of healthcare reform.
The White House will block the public option at the last moment, because it would kill insurance company ripoffs and diminish contributions to the Rahm Blue Dog campaign chest.
What is amazing is that once significant aspects of the healthcare bill are passed through reconciliation, and once the American people (even in red states) experience the benefits of healthcare reform even on this “smaller” level, they will be enthusiastic about the necessary fixes at a later date through the regular legislative process. To paraphrase John Lennon, “everyone’s singing about his own birthday.” Few Senators care about the people–they just care about maintaining their own jobs, the power and corporate money that goes with that job. Each vote is a political op, each Senator is voting for himself, not for the legislation. The dems have yet to learn that the group that “appears” to show strength and leadership (i.e., the courage to follow through on even a single party agenda) is the group that will garner the greatest number of supporters.
Pass healthcare through reconciliation and, surprise, surprise, you retain power for a good long time.
But that’s just so…uh, sensible.
Citizen fwdpost:
Politics as practiced by elected officials is at the bottom line about gettin’ re-elected…and ObamaRahma and the Blue Dog fascists don’t win re-election if they kill the public option if it gets that far. Politics at this level is a big game of chicken, and for once we have progressive forces in both houses of congress who are willin’ ta make a run at the White House with the people at their backs.
Jim White has a fresh cross-post up: UN Refuses to Participate in “Militarization of Humanitarian Aid” in Marjeh Reconstruction
Citizen Pati:
Ooops Sister Pati, this is the perfect storm to use the power of grassroots support against the power of political money. If the progressives get the popular option through, then no amount of corporate money can buy it out in November…and that’s a fact! That’s the game of chicken that Leahy and Franken and our friends in the House are playin’…they’re racin’ against the November deadline to get somethin done before the money can drown the effort.
Watch out for these guys: some of them will say Yes to look good and vote No. Lautenberg already pulled that trick.
YES! This is what I’ve been waiting for. Would love to have the results for the House Democrats too. We should add these results as new criteria when doing future versions of a Fire Dog fundraising contest.
One thing that needs some clarification is what it is exactly that is being proposed.
Both the House and Senate have passed their versions of health bills and now they need to be reconciled into one bill. As a first hurdle it is fine to insist upon a simple majority from each chamber to be required for the adoption of the eventual merged bill through reconciliation.
But what is further needed is the commitment of at least 51 Democratic Senators to include in the merged bill the features that make HCR meaningful. These include a Medicare buy in, financing through modest taxes on high income groups, repeal of anti-trust exemption for insurers, no rescissions or exclusions from coverage and no mandates for coverage from private insurers.
In short the starting point for meaningful HCR is a bill much closer to that passed by the House than by the Senate. So what exactly is the virtue of beginning the reconciliation process by both chambers adopting the Senate bill at the outset? Unless of course 51 Senate Democrats will commit to adopt the above cited measures into the merged bill and what guarantee do we have of that.
If you begin the reconciliation process by adopting the Senate bill as the starting point then by default that is the bill you will end up with. Instead, no concession should be made by the House to have the Senate bill be the starting point for reconciliation.
Finally! I didn’t understand why we weren’t doing a public whip count, but I’m glad the pros are doing it now. Notice the only two opposed (Bayh and Lincoln) are about to lose their career…should serve as a warning to the rest.
It’s not like Senators ever lie.
Didn’t Chris Bowers learn that lesson in 2009?
Rachel Maddow announced last night that she’s assigned a staff member to count who’s on board -don’t know if she’s part of OpenLefts project or not but it great to get media involved.
Even USA Today had an Opinion piece saying the Left should force it through for the sake of the country.
But it’s Harry Reid who still refuses and will keep his group of Moderates away from allowing a rule change. Those Mods by the way also keep him the ML and keep themselves relevant. Temporarily.
At this point, I’m about ready to send money to Atilla the Hun, if he’s running against Reid.
Is Rachel counting votes for the general HCR reconciliation process or for including the PO?
Anyone know where Feingold, Durbin and Schumer stand on reconciliation?
Any substantive coverage of this over at TPMpire, where the official line has been for some time that anyone contemplating reconciliation to get a bill worth supporting was insAAAne and that anything other than the House just shutting up and passing the Senate p.o.s. was “political suicide”?
Nope.
And they’re spending all their time on tabloid crap like the Alabama shooter. Sad to disgusting.
Yeah I stopped going over there when they literally said pushing for more in HCR was insane and stupid.
They must have really good health insurance with not threat of cancellation.
wow 20, that is impressive-go dems go
or 2008 when obama said he would filibuster telco immunity for fisa violations?
I want to know more of what is going to BE reconciled, so to speak.
Will Dorgan be reintroduced because it’s a HUGE cost savings?
Will a PO that is government run, is nationally based, is open to ALL, and DIRECTLY competes with priv. ins. be reintroduced?
Will Eshoo’s Amendment in the House Bill be kept OUT? Or included? To benefit PhRMA?
As was asked above, what about abortion restrictions?
Too much we don’t know, to take sides so happily . . .
Am I missing something?
BTW, Sen. Feinstein of CA has signed on the the letter, and THAT’S got me worried as all hell, as she’s a devout corporatist.
Any thoughts, Pups?
David D, thanks for the insider info update, as always!!!
This is my first visit to this site, but it’s obviously the place to come to if you want to see people masturbating on their fantasies.
Obama has already accepted that he’ll be a one termer and a few Dems are ready to follow him into the political wilderness for another decade, but the majority are not, and have either announced that they won’t be running in November or they’ve started to distance themselves from him.
The system is working exactly like it should be, and extremist proposals (like Obama’s) get sidelined.
Only those who are blind to the will of the majority continue to push his plans ..
http://www.ourchangingglobe.com/liberals-turn-a-blind-eye-to-reality/
The bottom line is that the Congress and Senate are already impotent because of internal Democratic divisions, and after November, the Republicans will call the shots, but that’s just the way the cookie crumbles.