BAYH: I go back to my father’s time, the great civil rights debates. The filibuster was being used to frustrate some basic, fundamental equities in this country. So the threshold was 67 votes in those days. They reduced it to 60. Now it’s being routinely used to frustrate even low-level Presidential appointees. So perhaps the threshold should be lowered once again.
MITCHELL: Would you propose steps, would you lead an effort in the Senate to change the filibuster rule?
BAYH: You know, I would… (crosstalk) Well, that’s right, but Tom Harkin and others have talked about this. I think it’s something we need to do, perhaps looking at changing the threshold once again, down to 55. Perhaps saying that, Administration appointees, other than the very highest ones, should not be subject to the filibuster. Because it’s just brought the process to a halt, and the public is suffering. So the minority needs to have a right. I think that’s important. But the public has a right to see its business done. And not routinely allow a small minority to keep us from addressing the great issues that face this country. I think the filibuster absolutely needs to be changed.
One of Bayh’s ideas, that lower-level political appointees should get an up-or-down vote in a prescribed period of time, mirrors an idea Jeff Merkley offered to me last year. On lowering the threshold to 55, I don’t really see why you don’t just advocate for majority rule.
However, this was important for a variety of reasons. Bayh here finally cited the MEANS by which all these abstract concepts of “partisanship” and “gridlock” get their purchase. Before he sounded like a self-important blowhard assuming the superiority of his “centrist” policy ideas, as if partisanship hasn’t been a function of American government since its founding. Here, he actually identifies the problem – fix the process and suddenly the problems of gridlock start to melt away. And he actually manages to offer a pretty good case for majority rule – the public, who selects its representatives, has a right to see its will expressed after it delivers a mandate.
It’s immaterial whether Bayh thinks his brand of mushy centrism and fiscal peacockery would fare better under a change in Senate rules. What’s crucial here is that we have a Democrat actually stating the reasons for the lack of action from Washington, combined with a real proposal to fix it.
Of course, it would be preferable, if Bayh wanted to actually change the rules of the Senate to make it a better institution for his children and the future of the country, for him to STAY and actually get that done. So his departure because of the difficulty of things smacks of cowardice. However, if someone like Bayh is willing to identify the Senate rules as the source of the problem, then old lions like Chris Dodd, who called such reforms “foolish,” are probably in the deep minority in the chamber.
…Hilariously, in a successive segment Andrea Mitchell and her warmed-over pack of Villagers focused not on Bayh calling for process reform but, yes, “partisanship.”




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Dodd says that filibuster reform is foolish.
I call for a retiring Democratic Senator cage match!
drunk
I wouldn’t take seriously anything Bayh has to say about anything at this point. He had all the opportunities to exercise leadership and he bailed on them. In November the Democrats will be lucky to have a bare majority so even a 55 vote threshold will keep the Republican filibuster intact. Nor is it clear that Obama and the Democrats would have behaved much differently than they have. They would still have proposed most of the corporatist crap we have seen.
Watch what he does; not what he says.
Retiring frees him, but what does it free him to do?
Bayh is so dim he probably thought the 55 discussion was about speed limits.
I like it.
Not just filibuster reform, the Senate also needs to do away with the ridiculous “single Senator hold” for nominees. Seriously: Should one Senator be permitted to block every single Presidential nominee, for any reason, no matter how trivial or self-serving?
“Here, he actually identifies the problem – fix the process and suddenly the problems of gridlock start to melt away. And he actually manages to offer a pretty good case for majority rule”
51 Republican votes in the Senate representing 30% of the people in the US fits no definition of “majority” rule I’ve ever understood.
Perfectly distilled.
Well, he was America’s Favorite Senator yesterday. I hope he enjoyed it – now that he has dared mention that Republicans might have something to do with inaction in Washington and people’s lives not improving, he’s just another DFH.
As long as we’re advancing ideas that won’t happen, I suggest abolishing the senate.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Democrats had 60 in the Senate. What stopped them? Also, this filibuster thingy is not the end all be all threshold for the Senate to get things done.
And even then, how are the Republicans able to get everything they want out of the Senate with a nice little bow on top when they never had 60 in the Senate? Hmmm?
Even now, with their small minority in place (and no rational ideas of any kind), the Republicans are still driving the debate. Why is that?
Oh, what do I care what Evan Bayh says now anyways? I don’t believe a word he says and he’s not even a representative anymore anyways. Shut it, Evan. Go home. Nobody cares about you anymore or your pointless blathering.
Yes, the Democrats had 60 senators and the Republicans 40.
The money had at least 97 Senators.
Evan Bayh is a classmate of mine from St. Albans. I feel compelled under the honor code (yes, really) to call him to repentance for his role in the demise of health care reform which hurt his party, kneecapped our president during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, and drove congressional approval ratings to new record lows. As well as will cause millions to die, suffer horribly, and lose everything when they get sick.
I hope that on this Ash Wednesday we will all remember that Evan needs our compassion. We are sinners, too. I’m a complete sleazebag, if you knew me. Luckily, “there’s a sacrament for that.” Especially today.
Please check out the “Call Senator Evan Bayh to Repentance” facebook group here: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=356653215728
I wouldn’t put Evan through this if I didn’t think our country had to confront corporate influence, provide health care to all its citizens (like EVERY other industrialized nation), and we didn’t have to repair the damage done by the health care debacle.
I knew Evan in school. Read it on the page. He’s a good guy, very dutiful. To a fault. Like senator’s son Al Gore before him.
Canon Martin warned us constantly to choose “the hard right over the easy wrong” because the easy wrong is so, so, so easy. It’s a slippery slope. If I were a senator and a huge company offered my ambitious wife a powerful and lucrative board position, I’d say yes, too. Not in health insurance, because I remember my psychiatrist father cursing insurance forms at the end of the month, etc, but some other industry? Sure. I would have totally fallen for it.
Please be compassionate. Please join me. Let’s start fixing the country. I think God has big plans for Evan on the other side of this. I hope so. – Ty Hilkert STA ’74
Bayh, Bayh, Mr. Evan Bayh, drove your Blue-dog Chevy to the levee, and shore enough, it died…
God, what a totally worthless human being…
Forgive? Maybe, with time.
Forget? NEVER! Bayh and his political flip-floppin’ has continued to let our fellow Americans die at the rate of 122 daily.
As for God and his big “plans” on the other side, sorry pal, ain’t buyin’ that evangelical mumbo-jumbo.
I’m for affordable health care “Plans” on this side – NOW!
Good try & good luck w/that. I’m more w/Mesa Mick. I was raised in a fundy family & was devout for many years, and I am still (sort of). But I cringe at christianist talk (sorry, but I do) like that. It’s mixing religion with politics, which I feel is waaaaaaaay more part of the big problems we have than any solutions. No offense intended to you personally, but count out the god part, thanks very much, as far as I’m concerned.
Bayh, at this stage, is the same to me as Sarah Palin: a big fat old QUITTER who, like the proverbial RAT, jumped the ship, after doing a big fat old NADA to really try to steer that ship or or be a good steward of that ship (favorite christianist saying) or save it or save any of the passengers on it. Like the big fat old rat that he is, he got HIS, and then he raised his big fat old middle finger and said: EFFFFF YOU!!!!
I have no interest in anything that Bayh feels like belching out at this stage. He can go pray to whatever gods he wants to for repentance, but as far as I’m concerned: far, far, far too little & too late. He can go join the Sister Sarah tent revival meeting and, like good griter con artists everywhere, start selling snake oil to credulous rubes.
PFFFFFT!
“After using the threat of the filibuster to stand against the majority of the country’s wishes, and kill the peoples’ business called the public option that my Wellpoint wife didn’t like, I now think that the filibuster is an impediment to serving the public.”
Did I get that right?
Now that Bayh has quit, and so retains no more authority or long term value to anyone, and has just his own vote to wield, he wants reform of the Senate rules. What is it with these senators like Bayh and Simpson who want to fix the Senate only once they are outsiders? I’ll take any votes the lame duck Bayh deigns to give for progress before he leaves, but don’t expect praise in light of such political uselessness over a career.
Yep, Doofus,there was an elephant there in the Senate with you for 11+ years, but it didn’t stop you from being a good corporate tool did it?