Jane wrote earlier today about the lobbying effort against the student loan bill, a no-brainer piece of legislation that would simply end massive subsidies to banks and student loan servicers and have the government lend directly to students on loans they backed anyway, saving $87 billion over ten years that would be plowed back into increasing Pell Grants and access to higher education. A key element of the lobbying pushback is a claim that curtailing student loan privatization will cost jobs:
President Obama wants to pass the Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act (SAFRA), which cuts out these bankster middle men so the government can save $8.7 billion a year administering the loans directly. The bank lobbyists claim that 35,000 jobs will be lost if that happens. But that 35,000 figure is dubious — the entire student loan industry employs 30,000 people in total, and as Pedro de la Torre writes in The Nation, the number of actual jobs lost could actually be in the hundreds. Hard to tell, because those who promote the 35,000 figure are so vague about its sourcing. It comes from a survey conducted by the National Council of Higher Education Loan Programs, but they don’t seem to document it anywhere on their site.
The notion that all of those jobs will be lost — as the Senate Republican Policy Committee suggests — is ludicrous. These banks will continue to service the hundreds of billions in loans they already have, and they’ll also be able to compete (yes, compete) to service future loans.
The purest example of this con game on jobs to try and forestall progress on ending this corporate welfare came this weekend. Two Democratic Senators from Delaware, Ted Kaufman and Tom Carper, wrote a letter to Tom Harkin, expressing “concern” with SAFRA, and claiming that hundreds of jobs in their home state are at risk. These concerns mirror those from other ConservaDems and Senators with student lending operations in their state, so this makes it a good example:
Supporters say that proposal, which would essentially shutter companies like Sallie Mae out of the federal loan market, could save the federal government $87 billion over 10 years and lower students’ loan payments. However, Carper and Kaufman — who represent the state Sallie Mae in particular calls home — fear the reform could stifle local investment and result in lost jobs.
While they did not explicitly call for the provision’s removal from Harkin’s bill, they did implore the chairman to reconsider its language.
“We also have concerns over the potential impact on Sallie Mae’s operations in Delaware, which employs nearly 700 workers,” they wrote. “We ask that as you draft the committee’s mark … you maintain a role for Sallie Mae in the student lending process that recognizes the important services Sallie Mae has provided millions of students and mitigates any potential job loss in Delaware.”
Matthew Yglesias took a look at this and reasoned that this kind of inefficiency and waste was a price to be paid to maintain boondoggles in various states. But in so doing, Matt takes Carper and Kaufman’s numbers at face value.
Just a quick read of De la Torre’s Nation article shows that Sallie Mae, on the outside, claims that 30% of their workforce would be lost, not the entire workforce, if SAFRA passes. Since there are 700 workers total at Sallie Mae’s operation in Delaware, that lowers the jobs at stake to around 210. In addition, De la Torre notes that Sallie Mae is bringing thousands of jobs back from overseas to compete for Department of Education contracts to service federally administered loans. This is how he shrinks the potential number of lost jobs at Sallie Mae from thousands to a handful.
But there’s more! It turns out that the Sallie Mae offices in Delaware don’t even specialize in federally guaranteed loans, the types of loans at stake if SAFRA passes:
Sallie Mae’s executives support alternative legislation that would achieve savings by putting the government in charge of raising capital for the loans while allowing Sallie Mae and others to continue making and servicing the loans.
They say the bill that passed the House would mean job cuts, though possibly less severe at the Delaware center, which specializes in private loans instead of government-backed loans.
Kaufman and Carper also want to protect Access Group, a non-profit student loan provider which employs 400 in Delaware. But non-profit lenders already benefit in SAFRA with millions in no-bid contracts to service the federally administered loans, meaning that Access Group would be guaranteed an annual contract on at least 100,000 borrowers. So their employees aren’t likely to go anywhere either. There’s nothing good about that deal, but it really makes Kaufman and Carper look foolish for going to bat for this company that’s already been delivered support.
If you add all that up, I can’t imagine that Carper and Kaufman are protecting more than a half-dozen jobs with their opposition and “concern.” What they undoubtedly are protecting are massive subsidies to Sallie Mae and the banks, which go not to job creation but to bonuses and stock payments and corporate coffers.
The Delaware Senators are so proud of their work preserving corporate welfare that they do not link to these letters anywhere on their websites.



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They must be looking to achieve “Full employment” in Delaware.
Whatever the hell that is supposed to mean these days.
What they undoubtedly are protecting are massive subsidies to Carper and Kaufman.
I guess I better start looking at those kinds of things.
87 billion for half a dozen jobs… they must think they are working on the defense budget.
Can anyone tell me why there are only four comments in nearly an hour?
Bueller?
David, another excellent piece describing reality where a great fog exists.
The comment @2 is priceless, and besides being snarky, cuts to the quick and thru the fog, as much as David’s piece.
And now Mz. Hamsher joins that hunt.
Love this town.
*G*
Delaware is only ‘home’ to SLMA in the same way that the wee tax haven state is ‘home’ to every other American corporation that hasn’t fled to the Caribbean; their real home is in Reston Virginia and has been for years.
Just because a corporation is chartered as a Delaware corporation doesn’t mean they call it ‘home.’ Georgetown DC and now Reston have always been SLMA’s home, unless we are talking about an acquired Delaware-based agency whose division HQ is in-state.
Because Rahm doesn’t have the script written yet for this issue, he’s busy still rewriting the one for HRC trolling.
We have to remember that when politicians of whatever stripe mention the loss of “jobs” to replace “jobs” with “profits.” This isn’t about jobs, it’s about the elites’ extreme fear of decreased profits.
Recall the FDL survey that showed only 5% of readers actually read, and even fewer write, comments. A paucity of comments doesn’t indicate lack of interest or readership, although it can feel a little lonely sometimes.
hahaha
Good one!
“. . . unless we are talking about an acquired Delaware-based agency whose division HQ is in-state.’
I’d say David’s piece addresses that, in stating the Delaware offices don’t even service the types of loans that SAFRA was created to assist/reform.
David’s piece seems to me to be largely about the hypocrisy of the two Senators protesting SAFRA (which does not apply to the SM Delaware offices) . . . and the false meme of thousands of thousands of jobs lost due to SAFRA . . . . ahhh well, home is where the hearth is . . ;-)
High praise coming from you, TP. *bows*
Uh, my #8 reply to Demi’s #5 should have the acronym HCR, not the HRC (Hilary) one, it’s a typo, my bad.
Although, in a perverse and sick and pretzel logic kinda way, that might still fit, too . . . . *rollseyes*
And a POS Jobs Bill of what, $15 Billion, to save/restore 30 million lost jobs since ’06, and dog knows how many more since ’03?
Our elected offals put $ Trillions into saving finance/bankers, running two wars, while the middle class collapses.
Our elected offals are gonna bail out private healthcare insurance companies because they over inflated the value of the good will of the companies they absorbed in the past 10 years due to deregulation and consolidation.
If that was to crash and burn like it should be left to do, then Wall Street would collapse.
Same story as bailing out the investors and bankers!
A busted bubble coming at us that’s grown larger over a decade from inflating the values of bad investments and producing phony paper as part of inflating those values.
Sigh. I know, preacher meet choir . . . . snowing again your way? We got a few storms coming thru CA now this week that might dump all over midwest, not sure how far south they’ll get . . . be well, warm and dry!
Jane is on the Ed Schultz show right now.
http://www.620kpoj.com/mediaplayer/?station=KPOJ-AM&action=listenlive&channel_title=
That’s a point of view, but doesn’t answer my question.
Right. Knew that, but, it’s good for others to read that.
Still, do you think people who actually comment, who seem to be fewer in numbers, are not doing so because of the deep gloom we are all reading about?
Point of fact, I got a facebook message from an fdl friend here today that said she was only lurking lately.
I’m roanrey. So, roanrey. (From Team America.)
Rage overdose. Willing to bet most people are sick and tired of screaming at their computers, into their phones calling these dipshit politicians, and just plain tired from this crappy economy???
You’re so clever.
I kind of understand. But, why read and not comment. Rage only happens when we comment, not when we read?
Help me.
If your question is are people gloomer and doomer?
Hell, how could they NOT be?? So, answer, Yes.
I am. Does that keep ME from not commenting? No.
Might it keep SOME people from engaging? Perhaps.
Previous threads regarding PO and HCR (or the lack of it) continue to generate responses.
I’d bet, Pups have said what’s to be said, we know our own opinions and those of the regulars, only the trollers or newbies are highly active on basic issues and well, Pups might be bored with responding to it all anymore, we been there, done it, repeatedly.
THAT might account for a bit of a drop off on this thread by David . . .
And finally, I’ve been a bit busier lately with pressures on the home front and THAT keeps my comments at a lower rate, day or night time.
Final reply? Just an aberration due to topic and timing . . . comments were vigorous yesterday, for the most part. Same as last week . . . .
Be well, warm and dry . . . best to ya and thanks for all YOUR comments over time, always bring a smile to my eyes when I read them . . . . *G*
I know I am, on all counts . . . nice summary.
Not by half, but occasionally, I find a gem other than my usual choir preachin . . . thanks.
Yep. Gonna go play trivial pursuit on ps 2 with my kid.
See you later.
For me, personally, I have to really commit to a thread to comment nowadays. For one thing, there are SO MANY threads going at any one time, which is a GREAT thing. Lots more information, lots more discussions to follow, lots more popping up at any one time.
Used to be I spent lotsa time at Kos, HuffPost, etc., keeping tabs open and checking on things. Now it’s possible to stay at FDL all day to keep up. But it’s tougher to find time to engage in comments deep in threads.
Although I always enjoy our colloquys!
Deep Threads reminds me of Deep Throat. Sorry.
See how I get when I’m bored? Really, going to get slaughtered at Trivial Pursuit now.
Wish me luck against the 16 year old. :)
Where was Carper the Hypocrite when Sallie Mae OUTSOURCED over 2000 jobs to India and the Phillipines???
April 2009)”Sallie Mae announced today plans to move 2,000 overseas jobs back to the United States from locations in India and Phillipines. – “Lord said the company moved the jobs overseas about a year ago as a cost-savings measure when the credit crisis was hurting Sallie Mae’s bottom line. The company cut $300 million over the last 18 months, Lord said in an interview Monday.”
So far Sallie Mae is advertising to hire only about 100 positions, only 27 in DE and some of those are part-time. And Sallie Mae is still performing most of their IT in India.
Why so few comments, relative to the usual zedful barage? As for me, increasingly too many fucking posts (more than 1/hour on mainpage), can’t wade thru all the weeds (and links) and still have time to comment… i’m one of TP@10′s only 5% of FDL readers that also often dig into comments, but rarely comment (definition of a lurker?).
not to mention the real, living wage jobs that will be created, I kind of think that alone will outweigh any jobs lost
don’t these industries always complaign about too many government workers doing the job a fraction of the people should be doing?