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	<title>Comments on: New Health Care Whip Count: 192 Yes, 194 No</title>
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		<title>By: malleusmaleficarum</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/03/09/new-health-care-whip-count-192-yes-194-no/#comment-22724</link>
		<dc:creator>malleusmaleficarum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The deadline for primary filings has already closed.  Kos was krazy to utter such a threat.  In a popularity contest against Kucinich - Kos will lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The deadline for primary filings has already closed.  Kos was krazy to utter such a threat.  In a popularity contest against Kucinich &#8211; Kos will lose.</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
		<link>http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/03/09/new-health-care-whip-count-192-yes-194-no/#comment-22643</link>
		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Know I&#039;m WAY late to this thread, but Margaret you had some doozy comments, and I&#039;m with ya all the way.

Mauimom again, spot on, as were many others.

The trolls, they do themselves in every time they open their laptops.

*G* 
 
Sooooo Palin Like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Know I&#8217;m WAY late to this thread, but Margaret you had some doozy comments, and I&#8217;m with ya all the way.</p>
<p>Mauimom again, spot on, as were many others.</p>
<p>The trolls, they do themselves in every time they open their laptops.</p>
<p>*G* </p>
<p>Sooooo Palin Like.</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Potter has indeed either turned or was a double agent all along.

Well written, loved your comment start to finish (including the SDS one, look at how the anti war groups were infiltrated and attacked in Seattle).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Potter has indeed either turned or was a double agent all along.</p>
<p>Well written, loved your comment start to finish (including the SDS one, look at how the anti war groups were infiltrated and attacked in Seattle).</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You misstate Kuch&#039;s reason for holding out.

Completely.

It&#039;s not on principle, it&#039;s on POLICY and LEGISLATION as written.

No mandate, without robust Public Option.

Because, with a ROBUST Public Option, the door opens wide to eliminating the mandate before it kicks in and the door opens wide to continually whittle down the private insurance sector as we move to single payer and government run such as Medicare/VA.

But you misstate Kuch&#039;s reason for holding out his vote, be it abortion or lack of a PO. It&#039;s policy, not principle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You misstate Kuch&#8217;s reason for holding out.</p>
<p>Completely.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not on principle, it&#8217;s on POLICY and LEGISLATION as written.</p>
<p>No mandate, without robust Public Option.</p>
<p>Because, with a ROBUST Public Option, the door opens wide to eliminating the mandate before it kicks in and the door opens wide to continually whittle down the private insurance sector as we move to single payer and government run such as Medicare/VA.</p>
<p>But you misstate Kuch&#8217;s reason for holding out his vote, be it abortion or lack of a PO. It&#8217;s policy, not principle.</p>
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		<title>By: seaglass</title>
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		<dc:creator>seaglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the problem is not what u think. The problem is Gov&#039;t has become the willing tool of the BIG Corps. I C this in my own community where Big Corps. buy whatever parts of Gov&#039;t and pols they need and do what they want. They get huge tax breaks by strong arming everyone and buying everyone as well and the tax bill goes on the backs of there employees and everyone else in the community. They get regs. waived or they get special laws passed just for them, that make them more competitive and stiffs everyone else. This has destroyed the credibility of Gov&#039;t in the eyes of many of us. Oh and if u think its just Conservs. that sell out to business your wrong both parties do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the problem is not what u think. The problem is Gov&#8217;t has become the willing tool of the BIG Corps. I C this in my own community where Big Corps. buy whatever parts of Gov&#8217;t and pols they need and do what they want. They get huge tax breaks by strong arming everyone and buying everyone as well and the tax bill goes on the backs of there employees and everyone else in the community. They get regs. waived or they get special laws passed just for them, that make them more competitive and stiffs everyone else. This has destroyed the credibility of Gov&#8217;t in the eyes of many of us. Oh and if u think its just Conservs. that sell out to business your wrong both parties do.</p>
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		<title>By: Mauimom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mauimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupak may be a snake, but he&#039;s smarter and a better &quot;negotiator&quot; than all too many of the &quot;progressives,&quot; who delight in handing Lucy the football yet again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupak may be a snake, but he&#8217;s smarter and a better &#8220;negotiator&#8221; than all too many of the &#8220;progressives,&#8221; who delight in handing Lucy the football yet again.</p>
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		<title>By: seaglass</title>
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		<dc:creator>seaglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Potter now annoys me. I&#039;ll lay odds that he&#039;s a friggin double agent for the Ins. mafia, he&#039;s their  ultimate weapon. He seems like he&#039;s their worst enemy, but after all is said and done he says give them the $$ anyway? Something is very stinky about this guy. When I was in SDS back in the anti-war movement we had a guy that came to every meeting and always wanted to blow things up or start a riot or do something blatantly illegal or violent. I always thought something was wrong with this guy and eventually he ended up turning out to be what is called then and today an agent provocator. He was an FBI plant trying to get us all to do something they could arrest us for. Potter smells wrong to me. I&#039;d want to see where this guy is in a few yrs. bet he&#039;s retired in luxury in some hidden location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Potter now annoys me. I&#8217;ll lay odds that he&#8217;s a friggin double agent for the Ins. mafia, he&#8217;s their  ultimate weapon. He seems like he&#8217;s their worst enemy, but after all is said and done he says give them the $$ anyway? Something is very stinky about this guy. When I was in SDS back in the anti-war movement we had a guy that came to every meeting and always wanted to blow things up or start a riot or do something blatantly illegal or violent. I always thought something was wrong with this guy and eventually he ended up turning out to be what is called then and today an agent provocator. He was an FBI plant trying to get us all to do something they could arrest us for. Potter smells wrong to me. I&#8217;d want to see where this guy is in a few yrs. bet he&#8217;s retired in luxury in some hidden location.</p>
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		<title>By: seaglass</title>
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		<dc:creator>seaglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your wrong on the PO, but the mandate is questionable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your wrong on the PO, but the mandate is questionable.</p>
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		<title>By: seaglass</title>
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		<dc:creator>seaglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably. HCR has turned into a toaster oven for them and its they&#039;re own fault. weak indecisive leadership and when it does kick in its for the Corps. for everyone to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably. HCR has turned into a toaster oven for them and its they&#8217;re own fault. weak indecisive leadership and when it does kick in its for the Corps. for everyone to see.</p>
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		<title>By: seaglass</title>
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		<dc:creator>seaglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You gotta love Grayson. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You gotta love Grayson. :)</p>
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