In a move that could bolster efforts to pass the health care bill, the Catholic Health Association, representing more than 600 Catholic hospitals, endorsed the measure today, rejecting the claims from anti-choice groups that it would publicly fund abortions.
The chief executive of the Catholic Health Association, Carol Keehan, wrote on the group’s Web site that although the legislation isn’t perfect, it represents a “major first step” toward covering all Americans and would make “great improvements” for millions of people. The more than 600 Catholic hospitals across the country do not provide abortions as a matter of conscience [...]
Keehan said in an interview that she believes the approach now in the bill would work just as well to keep federal dollars from being used to pay for abortion.
“On the moral issue of abortion, there is no disagreement,” Keehan said. “On the technical issue of whether this bill prevents federal funding of abortions, we differ with Right to Life.”
There’s a good reason for Catholic hospitals to support the Senate language – they happen to be correct about it restricting abortion funding, and actually exptends beyond the Hyde Amendment in ways that could have a chilling effect on private coverage of abortion services. Bart Stupak’s language would clearly accelerate that process, but the Nelson compromise does offer an array of restrictions, including a state opt-out for abortion coverage on the exchange.
So the Catholic hospitals are apparently taking their win. So are these anti-choice pastors and evangelical leaders. And together they provide cover for members in the Stupak bloc to split off and support the bill. Stupak seems to have a core of a half-dozen holdouts. That may shrink even further with these developments.




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Too bad. It would be better if the bill were defeated.
Catholic hospitals no doubt want relief for the uncompensated care they provide.
According to Compassionate Choice’s press release of Dec. 17, 2009, “Roman Catholic Bishops Order Hundreds of Hospitals, Hospices and Nursing Homes to Ignore Patients’ Advance Medical Directives, Force-feed Unconscious Patients Against their Documented Wishes.”
Further, Compassionate Choice reports that:
“Taxpayers pay for health care to conform with USCCB Directives:
• Religiously sponsored hospitals in the United States bill the government more than $40 billion a year, while using religious doctrine to restrict medical care.
• In order to obtain public funding and still place its religious beliefs above the medical needs and individual conscience rights of its patients, Catholic and other sectarian health care providers have sought and obtained special government accommodations that have permitted these institutions to refuse to provide services they deem morally objectionable, while remaining eligible for public funding.
• Combined Medicare and Medicaid payments accounted for half the gross patient revenues of religiously sponsored hospitals in 1998. The other half came almost entirely from insurance companies and third party payers, not from churches or other religious sources.
The above three bullet points refer to The MergerWatch Project, a publication of the Education Fund of Family Planning Advocates of NYS, which received funding from:
The Robert Sterling Clark Foundation
The Dyson Foundation The Ford Foundation
The Open Society Institute
Anyone hearing about this or having direct experience?
The Ford Foundation was the 4th funder of the report, “No Strings Attached,” referenced in Comment 3, published by MergerWatch.org or “Education Fund of Family Planning Advocates of NYS” in Albany, NY.
I have posted here some data points regarding Catholic Church activity in the insurance industry.
Observations, comments?
WHO CARES WHAT THE PEDOPHILE CULT THINKS?
The Catholic Health Association is naive. Yes, they will have a more secure income stream if this health care bill is passed, but, as with all such schemes, they will also be subject to unknown future controls. He who pays the fiddler calls the tune.
I predict they WILL be forced to provide services currently considered sins by the Catholic Church.
Your an idiot. If you think just the catholic church has child abuse cases than you truly are stupid. I live in a small rural town one catholic church in the town. We have lots of evangelica churchs here and I know at least 4 cases of child sexual abuse in the last 10 yrs and many of these people were ministers or youth ministers. So get a grip. But saying that I don’t want ANY RELIGION telling me what is best for me and my family.
Remind me, when the time comes, NOT to die in a Catholic Hospital.
Actually, I’d prefer to go off in the woods
S-I-N = self induced nonsense
This is what you get when you try to run a country like a church. The religious nuts of all stripes see our government as a pushover for their various peculiar notions of what morality should be forced on the masses.
If we had a firm commitment to a secular government with bright lines of separation they wouldn’t be so bold. But we have let the termites into the judicial and legislative chambers.
Health care is a secular social issue. Heal the body and only then pursue the conversion. There was a time when even the Catholics accepted most of that.
T R Reid has a great op ed in WAPO today. Here
Just more proof that religions need taxed. To the maximum.
Scott Brown, we’ve reached the 14 minute mark. Enjoy your coming obscurity, and good luck in ’12.
I disagree with your statement that healthcare is a social issue. It is personal. Intensely personal.
I do not believe it is possible to have government mandated or paid healthcare without infinite bureaucratic intrusions into deeply personal issues.
Why tax them to the maximum? Why not just refuse to send tax money to them in the first place?
Be carefull for what you wish…The New Bill could mandate that Catholic HOspital be required to perform abotions, or not receive Federal funds.
Yep let that uninsured migrant child with tuberculosis play with your child. He is personally accountable for his health care.
And I assume you don’t mind having your free enterprise insurance company tell you that the medication you need to survive is not on their formulary? Who do you complain to? Certainly not your representatives in government. Don’t want none of that Gumment intrusion.
Think it through
Like the opening scene in The Hurt Locker of the slow motion explosion that kills the armored suited bomb tech (Guy Pierce), that sound you’re hearing is Stupak’s head exploding and his political future being scattered to the winds. Losing his heavily subsidized C Street rent from The Family was just the beginning.
Rachel was really on his case last week…
The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has now officially taken the position that the Senate bill funds abortion and they are instructing that all parishioners at mass be told to oppose the bill.
http://www.usccb.org/healthcare/UPDATED-bulletin-insert.pdf
Stup(id)ak asked for his problems. As did Massa.
Stupak thought it was a good idea to deny 30 million Americans access to a doctor, over abortion ideology that he can easily fight on another day.
Massa chose to resign. If it’s only “inappropriate remarks”, then just apologize and stay on as most others in such fixes do. The guy is known in the beltway as somebody with mental problems.
Today’s HCR: aka the “no Massa” bill… ;^)
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Only if they have no competition:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/1999/10/01/MN84919.DTL
“Catholic Healthcare West is now the largest hospital chain in California, with 48 hospitals. Eighteen of those hospitals do allow tubal ligations — but in some cities where the CHW hospital is the only hospital in town, … women have to travel elsewhere to have the procedure done.”
“Only 88 Catholic hospitals (throughout the country) are sole providers in a county. This is not necessarily an attempt to squeeze out Roe vs. Wade.”
Talk about quibbling. This may get a pass back east where counties are comparatively city-sized, but not out west where we have counties bigger than many of those eastern states. In this example, Gilroy/Morgan Hill are in Santa Clara County, which includes San Jose and most of Silicon Valley – but they’re at the tippy southern end, 30-40 minutes away at best, well over an hour during morning commute.
I couldn’t find citation, but I remember at the time there was objection to them taking over this facility. CHW said they wouldn’t change services – this was a community hospital being eliminated, after all – but as soon as the sale went through they changed their minds. IIRC, their Redwood City facility (next county north) even provided abortion services, as they would have lost a lot of other business from private OB/GYN practices.
Oh no, let’s not have the option of paying for what we want…let’s stand in line and let the government tell us what we can have and when we can have it.
There is no free market in healthcare. It is highly manipulated and controled by government tax incentives, regulations, and special favors.
That migrant child, by the way, used to be taken care of by charity hospitals, which are almost extinct now. Where did they go? Regulated out of existence.
Your condecension gets in the way of rational discussion.
How can Carol Keehan claim to be Catholic and speak for Catholic Hospitals? I she is, she is a total hypocrite. There is no True Catholic that believes in aborting a life. They rather call it a fetus, instead of naming it what it is: a new life. I believe all Catholic Hopsitals, Bishops and Cardinals in the US and around the world should condemn this so called support for a bill that provides abortion free to anyone. This is not a good start, but an end. A good start would be to stop Tort reforms, Allow cross-state lines purchasing of health insurances, and stop providing illegal aliens those things that US citizens don’t get. Expatriate illegal aliens instead of allowing them free reign into everything. Yes, we can do better. But, this is TOTALLY the wrong bill for US Citizens. This not a Bill for America – but a bill for the US of America. Big Difference!
ronj, Charity hospitals weren’t “regulated” out of exeistence, they were squeezed out of existence by Big Health’s for-profit hosptials which would not accept ANY charity cases, despite their duty to do so under “regulations” and contracts. Don’t blow that smoke in this room!
Donate to Stupak’s pro-choice Primary Opponent, Connie Saltonstall:
http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/24052
Ok, I was being a little flippant so I confused you. When I said “regulations” drove the charity hospitals out of existence, I was refering to ALL of the intrusion into the health care market, including the flood of money that came from changes to tax law, insurance law, and from direct government spending. Healthcare has become all about the money.
I agree that one of the major reasons charity hospitals disappeared was because paying customers were being drawn off by for-profit hospitals. The for-profits were capitalizing on the flood of new money.
One of the reasons the current health care bill is being written the way it is, is that the healthcare industry is addicted to this constant need for more money. By mandating insurance on everyone, the healthcare industry is looking at a windfall. Heck, even the Catholics are looking to attach themselves to the money teat regardless of the implied mandate to provide the abortion services they regard as sinful.
I say decentralize. I say let people arrange for their own healthcare services, if that means visits to charity clinics, paying with cash, catastrophic insurance, or cradle-to-grave coverage.