Presidential approval and the performance of the party in power in elections has historically been tied to economic performance, and more specifically job growth. This has been proven time and again, including with this Administration, as the President’s approval ratings and Democratic performance in the generic Congressional ballot have sunk with the economic bad news.
If the main players in Obama’s economic team – Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, Council of Economic Advisers head Christina Romer, and OMB Director Peter Orzsag – can be believed, there is no relief on the horizon for jobs, meaning what you see is what you get for the midterms:
Employment and unemployment. In terms of the labor market, the forecast projects average job growth of about 100,000 per month in 2010, about 200,000 per month in 2011, and about 250,000 per month in 2012. Typically following a recession, we see increases in productivity, temporary employment, and the length of the workweek before employment begins to recover. For the most part, developments in recent months have been following this pattern. Productivity growth has surged; temporary help employment has risen for 5 consecutive months; and the workweek has been generally rising. We expect to begin seeing job gains by sometime this spring.
100,000 jobs a month will not keep up with the expanding population of job seekers; historically it takes at least that many jobs created to maintain the same unemployment rate. So what Orzsag, Romer and Geithner are saying here is that the unemployment rate will remain close to 10% until the end of this year – 9.5% at the absolute best.
You can talk about base enthusiasm or the halo effect of passing major legislation or all the rest, but job numbers like that are absolutely frightening. As Atrios said today:
If I’d gone back in time to the end of 2008 and told the incoming Obama administration that they would pass a large stimulus bill, but nonetheless unemployment would rise to around 10% by the end of the year and then stay there for about another year and that Jonah Goldberg would, at some point, say something intelligent, they probably would have been more likely to believe the latter than the former. If they did believe me, they would have freaked because 10% unemployment for an extended period is really really bad.
Despite some rhetoric about a jobs agenda (which has faded into the distance recently), there continues to be no sense of urgency about the jobs picture. There are enough pieces of legislation (the $154 billion dollar extenders bill, the $100 billion “Local Jobs for America” Act) in the pipeline to stimulate growth somewhat, and the hiring around the US Census will provide a short-term boost, but official Washington seems more concerned with chasing the ghosts of inflation than doing anything meaningful to arrest the jobs crisis. So it goes on, despite the electoral imperative, from the perspective of the Democrats.
Maybe the bipartisan effort to end Chinese currency manipulation would help, but I fail to see the leverage to get China to concede that. I certainly don’t see the kind of hardball tactics that Paul Krugman outlines coming into play anytime soon.
The contentedness in Washington, from practically all sectors, about millions of people out of work, drives the sense in the rest of the country that the political system is simply broken.



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It’s not only broken, it’s appallingly useless, unusable and non-participatory to real actual people.
Corporations and lobbyists? Works for them like a charm.
The alpha male, O, will convince the voters that he has ‘saved’ so many jobs that he deserves another 4 years. After all, ‘we’ reelected W. O isn’t a whole lot worse.
They sure seem to be ignoring it like it was the plague, don’t they? Health insurance bailout-important. Wall Street bailout-needed immediately. GMC bailout-urgent. Millions unemployed? “well, er, um, well, uh, er…..” They don’t care.
Right, you can’t spell Hoover without 2 Os.
I give up.
The current government is unable to provide actual solutions, and it’s never ever going to be.
There is no “reforming” this government, it far to corrupt to be saved, the cancer has spread to deep.
It’s time to light up, sit back, and watch the horror. Because only when we have another depression will we be able to fix this.
so sit back and wait for it, it’s due in about a year or two.
Revolution now!
Inflation is a problem for the investor class, so it has to be combatted. Jobs are a problem for what used to be called the working class, so…whatever…
Well, golly, let’s all be glad that Barry has exhibited such huge leadership on the jobs and unemployment issue, along with the Vaunted Democratic Congressional Majorities, that the Congress has passed a 600 billion dollar job creation bill containing funds that jump start green energy transformation as well as infrastructure rebuilding as well as education system development and teaching as well as …
… oh, wait …
under their Mighty Leadership the Congress has passed the Ebeneezer Scrooge Memorial Act of 2010, which put 18 whole billion dollars (this is a big jobs bill … for a single city …) into government investment in new jobs.
And, oh yeah, let’s not forget that one crackpot Senator from the South nearly shut off Federal unemployment insurance benefits indefinately for lots of people because he wanted a pork project.
But, hey, we can tolerate these failures of Obama, right? He passed a sufficient stimulus package during the depths of the recession last year (oh wait it wasn’t sufficient) and he’s gonna reform the health care system (such that it makes insuracrats and pharmaceutical barons richer) so that makes up for Absolutely Nothing on jobs, right? Let alone all the shit about green jobs and infrastructure and education and … and … and … that he promised us while he still needed our money and votes to get elected.
I am so discouraged and depressed. But not surprised.
hmmmm…….another drink.
What happened to jobs are our number one priority. Banks, auto companies, insurance companies get bailed out right away, but working people will have to wait…for things to trickle down. Doesn’t government have a responsibility for the well being of its citizens, not just its corporations. How is this progressive. Does Team Orange support the economic policy of this Administration. Makes no sense.
alpha male? he’s revealed to be the omega man
Barry’s alpha male has come into full flower in pressuring members of congress to vote for a shit HCR bill. Don’t EVER underestimate the alpha male.
But look! They passed “health care reform”!
How the Democrats could all risk their jobs in such a cavalier way like this is beyond me.
Oh just you wait until those progressive Dems in congress get ahold of this information…why they’ll…they’ll…they’ll…..ya…nothing. I got nothing. But I will offer you a drink! I’ve got so frustrated watching this clown kabuki theater act today, that I’ve cracked open a bottle. Call it an uncelebration. Cheers.
Trying to make the case for my 4/11 book salon. Scroll down. And please show up. You will not be disappointed.
Obama on unemployment, one month before the 2008 Election
As BT said earlier today, “Compare and Contrast.”
You need to show up for my 4/11 book salon. Ludwig has it down to rights. Much to your and my disappointment.
Yup, it’s clear that they don’t care about unemployment enough to fix it. Personally I’d be asking for Larry Summers and Timmy Geithner’s heads on a platter by now but I don’t think Obama cares either. Chances are that Obama is trying to keep some powder dry in order to juice the economy late 2011 and into 2012, just in time for his reelection attempt.
Back when the stimulous was passed, James Galbraith had said that it was only about one third of the needed size. Given our current unemployment, that assesment sounds right on the money.
the funny thing is it’s 20% unemployment, not 10
woo hoo
Yeah, I’ve heard the reasoning that they plan on having lucrative careers as lobbyists after they’ve been thrown out of office, but I remember during the Dumbya admin when the Pukes refused to work with Rat lobbyists– they threw all the Rats out of K street! I think the current crop of Rats are gonna be up shit crick after election day.
Somewhat OT. Toyota will be closing its Fremont, California plant putting 4700 people out of work.
Show me the way. Right now the only thing I’m appreciating is the inventor of alcohol and now understand why it was invented!
That’s terrible news
Where exactly is the rest of the “stimulus” money?
I think this image characterizes Obama perfectly.
Say good bye to the election Dems. The GOP is doing worse than the Dems which is a first the party in power always loses during a recession.
After the election I think we can form a third party its a little late to do it now.
It has less to do with Obama and more to do with outside forces and general Washington Consensus, if you can’t see that and wanna blame Obama for all that’s wrong, you are clearly misguided.
Don’t get me wrong his hands are not clean, but Wall St has done a number on us, by forking truck loads of money into his campaign, ensuring the only change that would happen is nibbling around the edges.
The Fox interviewer that kept say “Its 1/6 of the economy” is a moron, both wars are 1/4 of the economy if not more, when you combine not only cost but the legacy cost down road with all the injured and mentally unstable which will resort in high medical cost, damage of personal property from drug/alky use and unfettered violence. Things like Mall Shootings will increase, random murders of a generation of people will become common and other violent outburst.
Stop worrying about what happens as the National Level. Politics is LOCAL said Tip O’Neil and he couldn’t be more correct. If Republicans are so hot on State’s rights when States left and right start passing things like Single Payer Health Care and ending Marijuana Prohibition you’ll see how powerless Washington is to change the overall direction of this country.
Why all the angst about jobs? Those who nearly brought down the financial system got their fat happy bonuses. Big Pharma seems to be doing well so its business as usual and all’s well with the world. Screw the little guy. We only need enough of them working to keep those tax’s rolling in. Lord, when will we the people ever learn?
The only way that works is for the two of them, Obama and Wall Street together, to tango.
A guy can always refuse to dance yanno.
Think they also Presumed no electoral growth in 2010 for Dems too? Naw, can’t be, cuz right now those progressive beacons of society MoveOn, KOS, C&L and others are all cheering wildly about the wonders of “health reform” not even knowing that is insurance not health care and has really nothing at all to do with health care. *sigh* Another drink!!!!!
This is what happens under the Permanent Republican Majority.
Corporations well taken care of – check
Peon voters screwed – check
Done and done.
Just like with health care, there’s a mad mad method to this madness.
Lose the House this fall and fire up the base for 2012! A Republican takeover would also give Obama the support he needs to slash Social Security and Medicare.
Its calculated to be released like a time capsule drug….
By the way while we’re trying to loosen the grip of insurance companies, Germany is finding out letting the rich opt out of public health care is going to mean they are going to end up paying into it after all…
http://www.youtube.com/user/deutschewelleenglish?blend=3&ob=4#p/search/1/l9ca6ZBA2b4
When they find out this “reform” results in spiraling health care cost AGAIN, they’ll have to go to Medicare For All and guess what, people will be saying as been said MANY TIMES since this as been started about the United States and its slow learning populace -
HOW COME WE DIDN’T DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME??????
Exactly.
Jobs aren’t going to be created because regular people don’t have money to start their own businesses. You can’t expect that to change with a trickle-down approach. You have to empower labor to fight against capital in order to pry some of that money out of the hands of the propertied class. Capital is so concentrated in the hands of the few. Everyone needs to stop pretending that small businesses are so impactful. They’re not right now. Big businesses are. We have to begin an all-out onslaught on them.
If Obama fails to improve the economy it will be because he didn’t empower labor to fight against the union-busting efforts of big business.
OR, they’ll say, oh well, we don’t have the votes, so you’ll have to do with what you have. Sorta like the massive unemployment.
“We know you are hurting, but damn, we gave those corporations the money as fast as we could and the lack of trickle down is just defying all logical economics”
The first thing that popped into my mind: American Psycho was also an alpha male.
“There is an idea of a Barack Obama; some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me: only an entity, something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable… I simply am not there.”
“Unemployed folks, I’m sorry. I just, uh… you’re not terribly important to me.”
Inflation is a problem for the poorest not the investor class.
You’re new to America, aren’t you?
Didn’t the unions sign on the dotted line and make a deal on the health insurance scam? Yaaaaaaa…they aren’t going to help workers either. Similar to congress. Corruption displayed at it’s finest.
Why would you ask me that? In what way does my stating that fact suggest that I’m “new” to America?
Because the entire history of the country is the fight of capital against labor.
Expecting “empowering labor to fight against capital” to happen within the current system is like expecting the plantation owners to start educating and arming the slaves.
Arresting the jobs crisis would entail providing business with meaningful incentives to expand and hire new workers. 77% of US investors believe Obama is anti-business.
Economic logic denies the possibility that jobs can, on net, be created by government. Government jobs programs are usually financed by taxation or borrowing by the federal government. In either case, resources are withdrawn from alternative, private sector uses. Higher taxes mean consumers have less to spend in the private sector, and reduced consumer demand leads to less production and employment. If the government borrows money to finance a jobs program, alternative uses of credit by private individuals and business firms are precluded. This, too, causes economic stagnation and higher unemployment in the private sector. Government spending merely takes money from the private economy and moves it to the favored industries of whomever happens to be holding the levers of power.
Democrats will never cut marginal tax rates or corporate taxes. Cutting taxes to spur economic growth is an anathema to them.
Until congresspeople are as frightened of us as they are of the President, nothing will change, I fear. They need to know they can lose their jobs by crossing their constituents. Right now, they think that’s not true, and they’re probably right.
OT it seems that Richard Trumka, President of the AFL-CIO was called to the WH for an emergency meeting. Apparently Obama wants to begin taxing the health benefits that workers struggled for over the years sooner rather than later. The unions will no doubt compromise and concede. They grown accustomed to it. They should tell Mr. Bipartisan where he can shove his plan.
The health care proposal currently on the table will help the working class. That’s why they signed it. Who do you think they are? Do you really think you know better than they do? That would be incredibly arrogant of you.
It’s wherever Tim Geithner decided to put it. I’d check Jamie Dimon and Lloyd Blankfein’s wallets.
Time to go viral.
Obama in 2010. What me Worry?
So what? That doesn’t negate the simple fact that “You have to empower labor to fight against capital” if you want the economy to improve. Anyway, your statement isn’t altogether true. It would be more accurate if you substituted “government” for “country”, but even then it still wouldn’t be altogether true, as many past governments have been much more supportive of labor.
Yes, I do. Unions had their day, and the display they have put on in the last year, shows their day is over. At least for their leadership. What working class are you referring to? The ones that are unemployed by the millions? What exactly are the unions doing for them? NOTHING.
I was thinking Timmy’s own bank accounts offshore.
No it’s not. Inflation is not ideal for the little guy, but it sucks for the usurers.
Losing their jobs isn’t enough to make them fearful. The power they’ll miss but not the perks, privileges and wealth. With their connections they are on easy street for life.
I’m still employed because I’m in a union. Palpably, that’s a bottom line I can get behind.
First, Obama and his economics team of Summers, Geithner, Orszag, Romer, Goolsbee, and shadow adviser Rubin are complete and total incompetents.
This in fact has not been happening. Last month, the labor force participation rate remained unchanged, and average hours worked weekly declined slightly. At the same time there was a jump of half a million in involuntary part-timers. What this means is that there was a shift from full time workers to part time workers while everything else stayed the same or got slightly worse.
Also so far this year we have lost 62,000 jobs in January and February according to the most recent BLS reporting (subject to change). This means for there to be an average of 100,000 jobs a month for 2010, March to December would have to see an average of 126,000 jobs created. And per the last time I ran the numbers, the econony last year needed 113,000 just to stay even. So David is right, even if these numbers were believable and they really aren’t, unemployment would decrease by about 130,000 in 2010, this out of some 15 million per the U-3
Well if the commercial real estate bubble bursts while the O man is on watch all bets are off. He wouldn’t stand the chance of being elected dog catcher in Cook County.
“Dr. Marcia Angell has been one of the foremost champions of a “single payer” nationalized health system, a kind of Medicare for everyone that was a plan favored by Barack Obama before he was president. But he backed off in the health care debate, saying it’s just not viable in the current climate. ”
She’s “A physician trained in both internal medicine and pathology, she was the first woman editor-in-chief of “The New England Journal of Medicine.” She’s now senior lecturer in the Department of Social Medicine at Harvard University Medical School and writes extensively and often about health care”
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03052010/watch3.html
Might help you reconsider.
Well, their day has been over for about 40 years and the great, big result for the rest of us has been declining wages and fantastically greater wealth disparity. Hey, the leadership may suck, but without more not less organized labor you can essentially forget about a reemerging middle class. Ain’t gonna happen. I wonder if you are aware that unions are on the rise through much of the rest of the world.
Obama would seem to be trying to hold a corrupt and inequitable poltical/economic system together at all costs for the ruling elites who have benefited mightily at the expense of working and middle class Americans. When the next economic crash comes with the collapse of commercial real estate the wrath of the people will make the Reign of Terror during the French Revolution look like a mannered tea party.
Would this be the same economic logic that blew an $8 trillion housing bubble and then lost trillions beyond that. You need to read Marshall Auerback or somebody like him. It is a classic fallacy to assume that credit is a zero sum game when one of the players is the government. Unlike private players, government has the power to increase at its discretion the supply of money. This view also ignores what happened during the Depression with FDR’s jobs programs and later the spending on the war.
But expecting single-payer (which, as a socialist, I’m obviously a supporter of) is to refuse to acknowledge the extreme wealthism and healthism (that is, prejudice against poor and sick people) in our current society, even on the part of the people here.
We’ve made a big mistake thus far by not making this an issue of discrimination.
The financial blogosphere has few illusions about the end game.
Inching towards 50 million long term unemployed, thoroughly shafted on account of priorities to bail out the privileged. A tanked economy, and another financial meltdown/bailout. That’s what americans will get for having voted in ‘Hope and Change’. Making lemonade of of these lemons is like squeezing blood from a rock. Will there be blood, though? – I sincerely hope not.
I doubt it–this country has none of the Continental gumption of the French, Russians, or Austrians. We fucking love our castes in this country, like the Brits. We say we like freedom, but we really just like our betters.
that made my day dude.
And that’s really fucking creepily accurate.
” Unlike private players, government has the power to increase at its discretion the supply of money.”
I thought the Fed told the government to take a flying fuck, and just revved up the presses.
Heh. What are you, a capitalist? A trickle-down economics adherent? Do you even know anything about socio-economics? Anyone who says that unions had their day is living in La-La Land. Just another victim of Reaganomics class.
I don’t care what you call it, but the unification of workers against capital, to me, is a union. It doesn’t need a fancy name or a headquarters. It’s just worker solidarity that matters. Oftentimes, you’re right, the union leadership does get in the way. That’s when the workers have to take things into their own hands.
What are you doing for the millions of unemployed? Why are there unemployed people in the first place?
Already there. ;-)
I’ve been working for a week like this one, where the essential equivalence of R’s and D’s and the death of the existing system become undeniably clear, for many years now.
To the extent that accepting death is the necessary last step before moving on to what’s next, all this pain is great news.
The investor class doesn’t have avenues to stay ahead of inflation? Educate me.
Until the people wake up to the fact the “betters” have been fucking them all along. The French loved Louis XVI blaming all of the problems on his “advisers.” They eventually woke up to the fact that the entire system was rotten and the Bastille fell.
The mainstream economic profession is incorrect about a lot of things, this included. The WPA and CCC worked pretty well. And even if you claim that WWII ended the depression rather than the New Deal, what was WWII? Lots of government spending.
And higher taxes does not mean less consumption because that tax money is being spent right back into the economy via government jobs. All that happens is that the money is a bit more evenly distributed across the economy… that doesn’t hurt consumption, it just rearanges it. And if anything, higher employment means a greater number of goods and services in the economy.
Of course, you’d need a government which wasn’t riddled to it’s core with corruption in order to get anywhere via the government employment/development programs. On that I completely agree.
I wish there were some way to separate the pain that Obama’s incompetence and venality is causing so many [lost jobs, foreclosures, etc.] from the well-deserved pain it should cause him in 2012 and the other Dems in 2010.
Knowing how badly so many out there are hurting, I can’t bring myself to root for the economy tanking, but when i think of what it would do to Obama, I’m close. Really close.
The public sector can’t crowd out private spending that isn’t happening, and won’t happen, because there’s rank insolvency and massive simultaneous de-leveraging in that private sector.
This also ignores the fact that there are no huge burgeoning markets for commercialization of scientific research on the horizon, at least none that consolidated capital are interested in pursing at the moment.
Dems have ignored jobs for far too long.
I hope you have not bet your kids’ college fund on this proposition.
After what we’ve seen over the last 12 months, I wouldn’t characterize anything as “an anathema” to Democrats — except, perhaps, doing the right thing or getting a spine.
What I find disturbing is that Obama will accept this analysis from his team and likely do nothing to produce a different outcome.
In the meantime, why don’t we all amuse ourselves and poke fun at Palin and Beck like Daily Kos does, because, you know, Obama has got this.
No, it’s that viewpoint that’s fundamentally mistaken.
The belief that labor must be “empowered” already belies the condescension that labor is somehow inferior and lacking anything it needs, other than the will to stand up and fight. It’s the white man’s burden or the worst of feminism with respect to class struggle.
And, starting as it does from a place of weakness and inferiority that must then be rescued by some external agent, it can lead only to recapitulation and failure – the reinforcement of the initial belief.
Labor doesn’t need to be “empowered” by anyone, and has everything it needs sans one crucial element.
Will.
And that can never be given – only found within.
“I” do not have to do anything about unemployment. See, I wasn’t elected on the promise of jobs. Somebody else was. I also wasn’t making deals with unions, under the table just like the big pharma corporations, somebody else was. I have been drinking. A lot. Am going to bed now. Thank you for the discussion.
Union leadership sold out their members decades ago. What have unions got for their workers in the last 30 years? Wow, lower wages, fewer hours, while the corporate CEO’s got millions upon millions for doing nothing. THAT is the problem. Unions are a fan-fucking-tastic idea. Unfortunately, they aren’t working and haven’t in years. Years of getting 10 cent raises while every day expenses jumped 20 cents has done NOTHING for workers. They had their day, but unfortunately, they’ve decided to also screw the workers, but damn don’t forget to pay your dues! IF this isn’t the case and I’m mistaken, then unionized workers are the dumbest SOBs to ever grace the planet earth, and I refuse to believe that. Defending unions because one is a “member” is as stupid as defending these Dems because they call themselves progressive.
Had to create an account just so I could post an excerpt from this fund raising letter I received today from Joe Biden, for the DSCC…
Boy, imagine if we had to go back to special interests running the show! Or Wall Street Bankers not facing the consequences! Or secrecy is business as usual (I was glued to those health care meetings that Obama had televised on CSpan).
They’re going to do a lot for the people whose unemployment is running out, or has already run out. Not.
It’s pretty hard to create jobs when You don’t know the first thing about it.
They always start at the top down. The recovery act gave the money to the States. The bailout saved the Banks and did shit about the people losing their homes.
All the problems this Country needs fixed, and things it should be doing are not being addressed and all most all would create jobs.
They keep complaining about the Governemnt not taking in as much in taxes, but forget that unemployed people don’t pay taxes, buy things, and boost the economy.
Putting people to work would make money for the Government, but instead they would rather pay unemployment, and complain how much that costs, and that the people don’t want to work.
It is just more proof that this Government doesn’t work. Not because of the system of Government, but because of the people the voters put in there.
Obama is just the President. HE’s not a God and can do little on His own.
He has surrouded Himself with a bunch of complete assholes, and must deal with the assholes in the Congress.
Bitch all You want but the voters should take the blame they deserve for allowing things to get this bad.
Oh, lordy, there was a nutjob.
They sure didn’t fight previous tax cuts. And they haven’t been fighting for affordable health insurance either.
Know any good political parties that need more members?
He picked the effing assholes that are around him.
He picked good people for his campaign, but bad ones for running the country.
What the f*ck happened to the guy that picked the campaign staff?
Well said.
Two separate tasks for two separate teams. One to sell change, the other to pretend it is.
“No Job Growth In 2010″ This does not suprise me in the least. As a matter of fact nothing suprises me anymore when it comes to such a failed leadership …………………… But what pisses me off the most is the fact that I was one of many that believed in all the hope and change, yes we can bulls**t.
World’s Oldest Drinking Song
RIP Dick Montana.
And CB, I’m ahead of ya a few hours, and equally depressed and trying to suppress.
Tomorrow, we take Manhattan.
;-)
With the bankers and the financial investment houses, phantom stock, hedged puts, and short and nekkid sells.
I keep pushing this on folks, no one ever responds, but it’s the grand story of the meltdowns and how it occurs, and where and how deep the corruption is. Names are named, and it goes back to the 80′s chronology wise.
Deep Capture.
Had I gotten Mz. Hamsher to read it two years ago . . . or anyone else, we’d have had a leg up on shit.
And that’s the ONLY thing I’ll say about that.
Cuz I’m as fooled and derpressed as she is, and any one else is.
A rally cry if I ever heard one . . . great comment.
Who has and where is, the will amongst us all?
I want it to come from the younger one’s, others today have said it will have to be us 50+ boomers to do it yet again, that our time is NEVER up . . . .
Who will be The Will?
Since will can only come from within, any search for it outside (the group, the party, the class, ourselves) can only fail.
The only answer, ever, to the question of “who has the will?” is…”I do.”
So to be the first, but not last, to answer the question:
I do.
He got to Washington and was advised to pick these people by the Washington establishment.
20 million jobs at 20,000 per year
is 400 billion. Or about equal to what fannie and freddie are going to cost uncle sam in 1 year.
what the hell is washington thinking? Indeed!
And it’s a damn shame that he couldn’t actually BE anti-business, maybe in some ways which would give the rest of us an even break…
I hope you were able to give them an “appropriate” response to their request!
Great screen name, BTW.
I hope this is snark.
Otherwise you’re just reinforcing the Republican meme about “no experience Obama” — i.e., he’s just a little innocent lamb getting played by these Big Bad Politicians.
Yup, and add private equity firms to that list! They are just like the leverage buyout crooks from the 1980′s. They claim to add value but much of what they do is loot&scoot/pump&dump, leaving a trail of unpayble debt in thier wake.
Just looking at two of the big private equity firms and you end up with a fully staffed Whitehouse. Pres, VP, Treasury, State, Defense, SEC Chair…
Cerberus – Dan Quayle, John Snow
Carlyle – James Baker III, Bush Sr, Bush Jr, Frank Carlucci, Arthur Levitt
Fresh Air Interview with Joshua Kosman:
“PE firms own companies that employ about 7.5 million Americans. Half of those companies, with 3.75 million workers, will collapse between 2012 and 2015. Assuming that those businesses file for bankruptcy and fire only 50 percent of their workers, that leaves 1.875 million out of jobs.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120391729
Private Equity’s Trojan Horse of Debt:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/14/business/14gret.html?dbk
Honestly, and I may very well get my ass kicked for this, I am so thoroughly DONE with this administration and the Democratic party, I really don’t care anymore if they get their asses handed to them this year and in 2012.
They simply dont care about job losses and care only about the money still left in your pockets. Thats why the constant request for campaign donations trying every trick in the book.
Current administration is more worried about keeping word given to corporate lobbyists than the one given to the people while getting elected.
I still feel bad that I voted democratic last time.
I cannot wait for the next elections to vote GREEN party which does not take a single corporate dime as part of the party charter to keep my conscience clear. Please do not skip elections but at-least vote third party. Middle and Poor class give more than 50% of their income directly(federal, state & local tax) or indirectly(sales tax etc) to the government. We need to change the system so do not waste the vote and vote for a clean third party from onwards.
Keep in mind that we are having the economy we have now because of W, and for that matter it goes back to Reagan. To turn all of this around is a monumental effort and to tell you the truth I am skeptical about whether it can be done when you look at all the facts. The corporations have moved so much of the work overseas where it is cheaper and it is very hard to fight the economic elite because of their mammoth amount of wealth. That happened because of the tax cuts that allowed these entities to become so wealthy that it is now a sever threat to our whole system. Another thing that is hurting the health of the economy is demographics. A large part of the economy is being affected by the baby boomers aging and moving towards retirement. The reason for this is that when you get around 50 you have less motivation to buy things. If their is less demand then you are going to have less economic activity. The auto industry has taken a real beating, I think they are only expected to sell about 11 million cars this year compared to 17 million cars in their peak year which occurred around 2000. In that time the population has increased and with new technologies that in itself will mean fewer workers needed. Don’t believe what you hear about the housing industry rebounding anytime soon. Of course a lot of finance jobs are gone and will not come back. In the last 15 years or so much of the economy is produced through debt now people are paying off that debt. So as I see it a real economic boom in the economy may be several years away at best. Obama has really been given a bad hand but he will get the blame. To vote the Republicans in or feel like you don’t care if the Democrats are booted would be like a shot in the head. I realize that the Democrats are corrupt but the Republicans got us to this point and they are still propagandizing with their trickle down nonsense.
Let me explain something to you, Walsh. This business requires a certain amount of finesse. ;o)
I returned the form for my donation information with some hastily scribbled notations starting with “You could fill a tanker with the dumb in this letter.” It got worse from there….no money of course.
If the argument is that the system’s gamed in favor of the investor, then yes. After all, the Fed is fighting inflation like hell right now by preserving the low interest rates. The principle of inflation hurting lenders is basic: they lend in real dollars that over time become devalued upon repayment. I borrow $15000 from the bank to buy a car, let’s say; three years later, inflation has shot through the roof. Obviously, I’m still paying back at the same rate when inflation wasn’t so bad, so I’m getting a car and the bank is getting inflation-weakened cash from me. Banks hate that.
I understand your giving up.
While the country faces problems too numerous to count, the president spent two full days on making his NCAA Basketball picks. He could have used those two days to turn the economy around.
By the way. He picked Kansas to win it all.
Goodbye Democratic majorities. As Clinton did, Obama is more worried about covering his ass. As it is, he sees many things he agrees with Republicans on, so working with a Republican majority works for him. As for the rest of the country, Marie Antoinette Obama says, let em eat cake. This president never has, and never will have the balls to fight for anything he claims he believes in. The free market ideologues in this administration, including the president, are still existing in world of delusion. They still live in a world where the free market will save us all. WE ARE FUCKING SCREWED, AS I HAVE SAID FOR MONTHS NOW!!!!!