I don’t mean to be that cute about it, but Roll Call reported yesterday that the Pro-Choice caucus was “studying” the Senate bill and determining whether it went beyond the Hyde Amendment.
The issue of abortion is still fracturing the Caucus, with a handful of lawmakers pledging to vote against the measure for language they say doesn’t go far enough in restricting taxpayer funding of the procedure and others threatening to oppose it because they believe the same provision too tightly limits access. Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colo.) — a Chief Deputy Whip and leading abortion-rights supporter — still needs to review the Senate-passed approach to determine whether it passes muster, said her chief of staff, Lisa Cohen. She signaled if the Colorado Democrat decides it goes further than current law in denying access to abortions, she will oppose the bill and rally other abortion-rights supporters to do the same unless leaders pledge to address their concerns later.
But Pelosi on Monday reiterated that abortion and immigration language — another hot-button issue that’s divided Members — cannot be changed in a reconciliation bill, and she said that she is not considering offering future votes on abortion or immigration in return for Members’ support.
It’s hard to quantify “current law” in this context. Because we know that the segregation of funds in the Senate bill is meant to stigmatize abortion services coverage and make it cumbersome for insurers, and we know that states can opt out of such coverage in their state exchanges. The NYT rounded that up in an excellent editorial the other day. We also know that the exchanges are set to expand over time. So the burdensome rules governing exchange plans will eventually cover all plans, and even before then, there will be significant spillover effects. Your insurance will, over time, not cover abortion services, and that could include costly “chemical abortions” or D&E, which run in the thousands of dollars.
People can choose to support the bill despite this, the biggest rollback in abortion access since Roe v. Wade, on the grounds that increases in total health care access will limit abortions, or because women’s health will improve, or whatever other reason. But don’t pretend to “study” the issue. We know exactly what the Senate bill would accomplish, taking a legitimate medical procedure and making it taboo. Nobody’s leg injury is uncovered because people are uncomfortable about “paying taxpayer money” for leg injuries. Only women’s health gets treated this way.
UPDATE: Michelle Goldberg acknowledges the flaws in the abortion language, but thinks that the increased access for women’s health and maternal health make up for it.



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Thanks David.
Many, many thanks!
America’s Concern Troll’s KId Sister says why worry, both bills are about equally bad – so let’s not worry our little heads about it.
OT, Michael Moore is currently on NPR’s Diane Rehm Show at talking about “capitalism”.
http://thedianerehmshow.org/
Here’s a little nugget. The current reeeform of health insurance says that if a company denies coverage to an individual they will have to pay a fine of $100.00 a day. That will hurt! Right!
Obama and Rahm have pretty much destroyed the Corporate Party Play House
I love the title “Pro Choice Caucus Pretending to Study Senate Bill”
The current batch of Dems in DC are probably piss at Obama and Rahm for exposing them as complete sell outs.
Just watch, the PHONY DEMS are going to start shooting each other, this is the natural process of Crooks.
Great reporting, as usual. Thanks David.
Segregating funds for leg injuries. Yeah…Shouldn’t we also consider adding this provision for the bill? Hell, every other kind of dogshit thing is in there. Why not go for broke?
Feh.
Somewhat OT:
Anthony Weiner just sent out an e-mail:
Like he’s actually going to do anything. As though donating money to him will make a difference. It hasn’t so far. This is really sleezy, I think.
Since the abortion language in the bill is such that states can opt-out by passing a law to not provide insurance for abortion, this issue needs to be focused on the state level. It’s time for pro-choicers to vote out Republicans in their respective state and replace them with pro-choice progressive Democrats.
WOW!!!
Anthony Weiner just say no, stop using drugs.
These scum bags think the game is going to continue, the GAME IS OVER.
So we might assume that once the studying is complete that they can pull out the old rubber stamp and have done with it.
“See it could have been worse. Don’t worry about what you lost and stop with the criticism already.”
MissouriMule:
So, most of the campaign donations in future will be from corporations. Yet, the votes will have to come from voters.
Talk about ships passing in the night!
If we ever really wanted term limits, they may be in the offing.
I just watched Dennis. I am devastated! Now, where do we turn?
So far. Allowing States to “opt out” of the Constitutional right of women may well be just the foot in the door. Once the right to refuse to address women’s constitutional health care needs has been codified into law what comes next? Will one need to have “special” insurance for autism, for alzheimers for acne?
And what the hell are they “studying” anyway. In this instance women have been singled out for punitive health insurance surely that is all the caucus needs to know.
OK surprise me…he is going to vote for the POS.
We already have term limits. What we do not have is campaign contribution limits…..well actually we do. According to SCOTUS “the sky is the limit”
“Sleezy” and “politician” – Same thing. It applies even if it is applicable to someone like Weiner that tends to have a natural knee-jerk tendency to support the liberal agenda…
I am beyond words, I’m so appalled and angry. Make up for it? The closest equivalency I can come up with is to imagine if in the days of segregation we said, “Well, we won’t let you use the restrooms/water fountains/schools the rest of us use. But we’ll give you more of your own and we’ll make them look nicer, so we’re good, right?”
Coat Hangers.
That’s the only real choice these closet Talibangelicals and the shills for the Vatican want to give women when it comes to their reproductive health rights and options.
thank you missourimule, I was just headed there . . .
Michelle Goldberg acknowledges the flaws in the
abortion,Title IX,Voting Rights Act,Brown vs Board of Education,,Entitlement Reform, languageIncreased access for women’s health? Who the fuck is going to pay for it? Most of the women I know have no health insurance, can’t afford health insurance and have to pay unholy bloody sums to avail themselves of birth control methods….
My spouse is in the women’s healthcare business and most of her patients already have to have their birth control and or abortions paid for by donated funds. This is such fucking bullshit.
Haha…Anthony “Shill” Weiner not only wants to sell us out, but he expects us to pay him to do it. Hurry Weiner Hurry! The HCR Kabuki is almost done! Cash in while you can!
That increased access to health will probably be paid for in the same bill that they promise us will begin to build on this “reform.”
In other words, don’t hold your breath. You’re right: it is bullshit.
Lmao, I actually was expecting exactly such an oily little come on from little Anthony.
Frickin hilarious!
“make up for it” jumped out at me too. I am so fucking sick of how these people toss around women’s RIGHTS like bargaining chips, like budget items or pork.
Women need to be respected you fucking assholes! Fuck you!
Where’s Woolsey?
Sucking OBs dick!
That’s funny, city code inspectors routinely issue daily fines of $500 or $1000 a day for code violations. At the federal level, the EPA can hit polluters with daily fines upwards of $25,0000 a day. $100 a day is kind of insulting.
18 years as a clinic escort. Understanding that women are a majority in this country. Realizing that I’ve tithed thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours to get the freakin Dems elected to prevent the Reps from assaulting women’s heath care. Now this. It makes me physically ill.
18 years as a clinic escort.
wow. thank you for doing this.
All the confirmation we needed that the ‘Pro-Choice Caucus’ is just a fundraising tool. This monstrosity has been out there for months and is apparently just inches from passage (with her help, as ‘Chief Deputy Whip’), and she hasn’t even LOOKED at the language yet?