Before health care was signed into law, House and Senate Republicans released bills calling for its full repeal. It’ll be amusing to watch these have the same legislative chances as liberal bills not favored by the establishment for years, but get outsized attention and influence.
Mitt Romney, who wrote at National Review that the campaign for repeal “starts today,” actually offered a more realistic take of how Republicans will try to stop the legislation from taking effect – by de-funding it.
The key, he said, is having Republicans reclaim the White House and take majorities in the Senate and the House.
Then, “we can clamp down on this bill … by not funding it,” Romney said during a speech Thursday to hundreds of people gathered at the Hilton Anatole Hotel for the National Center for Policy Analysis’ distinguished lecture series.
Never mind that the bill essentially mirrors what Romney signed into law in Massachusetts – he has to do what he has to do to win the Republican nomination in 2012. And his message is basically: elect me and I will gradually strangle the subsidies.
Some Attorneys General in red states are going a bit further, vowing to challenge the Constitutionality of the bill.
The attorneys general say they will sue once President Obama signs the bill into law. They are pledging to take their battle all the way to the US Supreme Court.
“The health care legislation Congress passed tonight is an assault against the Constitution,” said South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster. “A legal challenge by the states appears to be the only hope of protecting the American people from this unprecedented attack on our system of government,” he said in a statement.
Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum issued a similar statement late Sunday. “If the president signs this bill into law, we will file a lawsuit to protect the rights and interests of American citizens,” he said.
The comments came after a Sunday night conference call in which attorneys general from 11 states expressed support for legal action to block the law. In addition to Florida and South Carolina, the participating attorneys general were from Alabama, Nebraska, Texas, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Washington, Utah, North Dakota, and South Dakota.
Virginia’s Attorney General will jump the gun on this, saying the state has already passed a law defying the individual mandate (they haven’t; the General Assembly did but it has not been signed into law). But legal experts doubt this will succeed, citing precedent.
The repeal movement does not, in all likelihood, threaten the implementation of the bill, although de-funding it is a possibility if Republicans get a trifecta of the House, Senate and the Presidency sometime soon. Some seem to think that repeal, and state ballot measures dedicated to it, will have a political utility as a conservative wedge issue. So far, Democrats have responded to this by saying “bring it on.” And I can envision smart ways to counteract this, making the debate about the benefits in the bill. But I am not certain they are totally ready for an onslaught by the right.
UPDATE: I erroneously said that Virginia’s Governor hasn’t signed the anti-mandate law; I have been informed he has, there just hasn’t been a public signing ceremony yet. I regret the error.




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Maybe the Attorneys General in red states can also get Social Security and Medicare declared to be unconstitutional. Surely that’s what all their citizens want as well.
Strangle the subsidies but leave the mandate in place?
But, surprisingly, the Chamber of Commerce won’t be joining in:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/03/22/chamber-wont-push-for-health-repeal/
Interesting split there.
From the DellNewsPage, here’s a little mainstream-media assessment of the pro’s and con’s of Obama’s HCR bill.
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20100322/D9EJSPP01.html
Pssst! If you were planning on going out tonight to get roaring-ass drunk to celebrate our “big win”, you might want to pass, on reading it.
Mitt Romney advocating the repeal of national Romney Care? Oh Lawd.
I thought the Virginia bill became law on 3/10 without the need of having the governor sign it, but could be wrong.
Oh wait, he was for it before he was against it. You can practically see the ads…picture it, video of Mitt with Ted nearby signing into law the MA health reforms, all smiles and cheers, then cut to now he wants to repeal the plan he put into law in MA? What a total bafoon.
What about PA? I heard there were joining in the law suit. I know they have a lot of legislative support for their single payer plan, is that why they are part of the suit? Or, what? Seems strange.
Oh wait, Republican AG. I get it.
The Governor wouldn’t want his fingerprints on keeping the bill from VA in case in becomes widely popular elsewhere and the citizens of VA demand having as well.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Dayen and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Good post. I for one am lookin’ forward to all the smoke and bullshit that’s gunna be blown around and through the corporate media about this bill, which will, in fact, keep the issue alive for November. The only alternative now to this legislation is to amend it to correct the onerous provisions and ultimately get us Medicare for all. “Freedom”, “liberty”, “socialism” and “support the troops” will not work if the fascist Republicans are gunna make healthcare and this law an issue. In order to score, the fascists are gunna hafta leverage the 52% of the voting population that supports reform (44% that support this bill and the 18% that think doesn’t go far enough) with the lunatic fringe that they’ve already mobilized and got the shit kicked out of ‘em in ’08.
Yes, I hope that the fascists force the Democrats who want to forget this entire episode to defend it or explain to the public how they’re gunna make it better…they keep this issue alive at their own political peril.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, BUT WAIT UNTIL THEY STOP SHOOTIN THEMSELVES IN THE ASS!
Since I’m making predictions today, let me make one or two here about the Republicans’ likely actions if they win the ability to do whatever they want:
- They’ll repeal Medicaid funding, but not the subsidies
- They won’t repeal the individual mandate
They won’t cross the insurance industry, either.
The Chamber spent a lot of money on Republican style radio attack ads when a “public option” was on the horizon. The Chamber said that Health Care Reform was a power grab, Socialism etc.
As soon as The Chamber believed that the threat of a competitive public option was quashed, their ad campaign was ended. Once HCR became what it is – an enormous and unpresidented giveaway to AHIP, the Chamber was apparently well-pleased and very satisfied that they helped to kill the public option.
Nevermind the fact that eight months ago, The Chamber was outraged at the Legacy costs (Health Insurance and Pensions) associated with the big two auto makers.
Nationalized Healthcare – or Medicare for all – would have been an obvious boon to businesses – big and small. What a relief to shed those expenses from businesses that are struggling in the Busted Bubble Bush economy.
Any Chamber Member who can appreciate what I’m talking about should renounce his membership immediately.
The Chamber might as well be The Heritage Foundation or AEI. Nothing but a front for The Right Wing Destruction of Everything.
If only it were so. The Chamber upped their ad buy in the last months of the health care fight, all the way up until the vote last night. They were on TV more heavily recently then they were when the public option was on the table.
However, I’m all for renouncing the membership.
Well, well, at least it’s not just the antebellum south that forgot that we fought a whole civil war over the concept of states’ right versus federal law. For those who forgot or haven’t seen the movie, the federalists won. It doesn’t matter what the states think. If the Health Insurance Company and Pharma Welfare and Giveaway Act of 2010 is found to be Constitutional at the SCOTUS, the states can only blather and rant.
This guy sees victory in Rhambo-revenge-rage, or Walker Texas Ranger kick-ass hand-to-hand, depends if he favors cowboy hats over bandannas:
“One senator can stop government,” Mr. DioGuardi said. “If they have the nerve, they can stop government.”
Ex-Congressman Enters Race to Unseat Gillibrand
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/16/ex-congressman-enters-race-to-unseat-gillibrand/
They are full of shit. They will make a lot of noise and then quietly not sue. They got no grounds and they know it.
I say let them be snakes.
Maybe that is why most of the bill doesn’t come into affect until down the road. Gives the Repubs time to kill the “socialist” aspects of it when they reassume power. Perhaps it was yet another side deal reached by the Whitehouse.
Romney, Palin, Huckabee, Obama, Hillary. Does it really fucking matter?
The insurance companies and the Chamber of Commerce have already realized that this healthcare bill is a good deal for them and people around the country can forget about it being repealed. As for Mitt Romney his flip flopping has already begun.
44 + 18 – 62
Not just red states. Seems the WA state attorney general, the craptacular Rob McKenna (yes, this dude is all GOP) has indicated he will file suit on behalf of the state of Washington to repeal the reform bill.
Our gov, Chris Gregoire is a supporter but that won’t dissuade Snidley McKenna from shaming the state. This goon only comes out of his office when one of his corporate buddies gets nailed for fraud.
Rob McKenna doesn’t stand up for the citizens of WA state; he stands ON them.
I mentioned this in passing to my cousin who watches Beck and screams at everyone that the liberals are giving away her tax dollars. Of course she lives on SS and medicare, but that’s different.
Yeah, HCR is like what Romney signed into law. There’s are “2 party” system for you.
Are you channeling George Wallace ’68 and his assertion that there’s not a dimes worth of difference between the two parties? It wasn’t true then and isn’t true now.
Yea, and they can try nullification again and we all saw how that worked out for them in 1861 – 1865 didn’t we. These retards need something to offer the public that allows them to run away from the BV$H yrs. Have the dems. given that to them here, I don’t think so. Its more likely the lousy jobs perf. of this admin. is what will really do them in not this bill.
They can try all the want but it isn’t going to happen. I really getting tired of these sociopaths saying “the American people have said they don’t want this bill” and the Democrats have passed this way anyway. Number one I resent them using this statement I was not for defeating the bill. I can’t even count how many times the Republicans have gone against the wishes of the American people. Olympia Snowe votes against the wishes of her constituents all the time.
Citzen moonwood:
oops…I knew that, it’s jest that geriatric dyslexia…gets me every time
Yea, right. The subsidies will disappear 1st and then all the rest of the few good parts. This thing will slowly dissolve like the Chesire cat and all that will be left at the end will be that BIG FAT SMILE AKA THE FORCED MANDATE. Does anyone blieve either Corporatist party here will ever ever repeal that? Not in our life times. Our only hope now is a total collapse of this horrid compromise but thats unlikely now that its been made into another TBTF sector of the economy.
I thought that the Republic strategy was to pretend that the Bush years never happened. Bush is “the one whose name cannot be spoken”.
David, wanted to make sure you hear -
Truly spectacular job on the count! Thank you SO MUCH for your hard work, all of us owe you one! I’ll be looking for blog awards I can vote for you in!
: )
Yeah, there’s a difference alright. Republicans pass shit only a fascist would love and call it national security or some outrageous bullshit and everyone eats it up. Democrtats shit their pants everytime someone yells “boo” and passes shit in the interest of bi-partisanship, even tho it isn’t.
In the years I’ve been on this earth the top tax rate on the wealthy has fallen 57%, under both democrats and republicans, representing the huge disparity in wealth we now have. Both parties seem to love war. And lobbyists, and capaign contributions, and corporate jets, and exotic vacations. So no there’s not a hell of a lot of diffference. Liars or idiots or idiots or liars.
Well I am glad we got this first step.
Looks like it will be easy to improve on it now.
/s
Will progressives PLEASE stop falling into the false assumption that Republicans are going to do anything consistent with their policy rhetoric?? Republicans regularly rail against policies they have themselves supported in the past in order to score purely political points. That’s ALL they are about. They don’t give a rat’s ass about policy! The name of the Republican game is Don’t Allow Your Enemies Any Victories and Say Whatever You Have To Say To Win. That’s IT.
I have to give you libs credit, your delusion knows no bounds. Especially the one that believes 62% of the public supports this POS. I guess MA, NJ and VA were flukes right?
But I guess if you believe that borrowing $1T to spend on a new entitlement program will lead to a reduction in the deficit, then you’ll believe anything.
As a Washington resident, I can assure you that Washington is not a red state by any means. Rob McKenna, before this, has been seen as a moderate Republican and Democrats have voted for him in the past, giving him his victories. But to join on the coattails of this stupid lawsuit, will be a mistake. Maybe not enough to deny him the governorship in the 2012 election, but his popularity will fall with this.
And as to whether this lawsuit will succeed, I appreciate the comments of an acquaintance who also happens to be a con law professor: