The President will sign the health care legislation on Tuesday, allowing the Senate to finish their work on the set of fixes in the reconciliation bill. Harry Reid has promised to begin work on the bill at that time.
The key question here is whether or not Republicans will bother to gum up the works and obstruct the reconciliation bill, when health care legislation will already be the law of the land. All they will be obstructing is the “special deals” like the Nebraska Medicaid expansion, along with preserving a tax on the middle class instead of delaying it. There are other parts to the bill, of course, including student loan reform. Maybe that’s the reason they’ll obstruct. Or maybe just out of muscle memory. Or maybe because they want to stop any thought of reconciliation getting used again by making it arduous.
At any rate, Republicans have signaled a willingness to block the reconciliation bill. Actually, the entire bill. But this doesn’t look like much of a threat.
But my sense is that there’s some confusion about what happens if the parliamentarian rules against the Democrats on this or that provision. So let me be clear on this: Reconciliation isn’t all or nothing. The parliamentarian isn’t ruling whether you can do a reconciliation rider. He’s ruling over what you can do with it. An adverse ruling is more annoying for the Democrats than it is disastrous.
If the parliamentarian strikes a provision or two, Senate Democrats will either pass the reconciliation act with that provision deleted from the package or they’ll rewrite the package to try and achieve the same thing in a way that survives parliamentary challenge. Either way, if the package Senate Democrats pass is changed from the package the House considered, then it will have to go back to the House to be passed again. But since House Democrats clearly have the votes to pass reconciliation fixes, that shouldn’t be much of a problem.
I don’t really think that anyone wants to go back to the House again, given the heavy lift already done the first time around. But Ezra is correct. Knocking out a line or two delays the inevitable. As long as 50 votes are available to pass the reconciliation bill, it will become law. And Senate leaders have made full assurances that they have the votes – I don’t even think there’s a need for a public whip count.
It will be worth seeing if Democrats can limit the length of the reconciliation debate in the Senate. Only 20 hours of actual debate are allowed for a reconciliation bill. But anyone can offer up amendments, and they get voted on without debate at a “vote-a-rama” at the end. Democrats think they have a way to get the parliamentarian to call an over-abundance of amendments dilatory. If this works, there’s no reason not to use reconciliation for other on-budget purposes by the end of this year for fiscal year 2011. That 50-vote process would be available.



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Republicans have fought tooth and nail to stop the confirmation of undersecretary of some no name position. Obstructing everything is what they do.
I love the picture of the train. That must be what the world looks like to conservatives– they’re standing there in a time warp as the rest of the world goes whizzing by them.
Republicans are standing there shaking their fist and cursing at the wind left in the train’s wake.
That said, my dander is up. Even in my family, there is way too much celebrating going on over this crappy bill. This is no victory.
More Kabuki Theatre,
The Republicans know what real progressives know, this is a Republican Bill
The question that every progressives must ask any republican is why didn’t you all attack the Obama Health Care Bill numerous tax increases on the middle class and wealthy?
This is all an act by both Corporate Parties.
To listen to Luke Russert explain this on MSNBC this morning you would think if one word is changed the whole bill has to be voted on again.Will somebody please tell me how this guy is qualified for his job,other than the obvious?
Kabuki.
There seems to be 22 hours of mis-represented facts and distortions on MSNBC to counter the 2 hours we get from Olbermann and Maddow.
It’s his hair. :)
Obstructing and lots of lawsuits for starters. Heck, I just got a subpoena to be in Federal Court next week…something about showing proof that I own a bible or a koran!?! Seems there is a law that requires every citizen to own one or the other…
It sure IS a victory. Yes, FAR from perfect, but let’s be hopeful – for a change – that Reid found his cajones during his last visit to Searchlight and the changes that we covet become law as well. i actually think they will.
Don’t shit all over people’s “celebrations” like some old curmudgeon. let us enjoy SOMETHING for once in fuck knows how long!!!
MSNBC, knows that the NEO-LIBERAL viewing audience is not that big.
Hardcore Liberals make up a very large percentage of MSNBC viewership, this is why you will see MSNBC make a hard turn to left, because the Health Care Bill has pass, so GE will probably allow more of the MSNBC talent to attack the Obama HEALTH CARE SCAM
MSNBC knows their rating will drop like a rock, following the lead of this Republican White House led by Obama and Rahm.
But as soon as the next big Neo-Liberal scam comes down the pipe line, they will again go back to the Neo-Liberal viewing audience.
MSNBC = KABUKI
Republicans: old, white and in the way…
Our New Pledge:
…One Nation, under Medicare, with freedom and healthcare for all.
This is no victory.
This bill, aside from a few scraps, simply entrenches the current system of private insurance with no real regulatory power. It is a big mistake.
Oh, and celebrate like when “we” won in 2006, and in 2008? How’d that work out?
An important thing to remember. In this case, the reconciliation bill does contain a very progressive component- of removing the middleman in the student loan business.
Why shouldn’t the Republicans string this out as long as they can? Their November strategy is based on opposition to this dreadful bill. They are going to kill Democrats with that, and the economy. So what if they have no ideas of their own, the Democrats have given them the means to resurrect their party without dumping any of its craziness. Of course they are going to obstruct. You think in the fall they are going to campaign on, “We tried to stop it but then, you know, at a certain point, we said why bother?” That is a plank Democrats would use. Republicans are going to tell pissed off voters, “We fought this to the bitter end for you.”
And why should we care what happens to this bill at this point? It is not going to get any better. It could get worse if the Democrats in the Senate renege, but even if they did, why should we cheer one party over the other on such a disaster and betrayal?
No one said they didn’t sprinkle a little sugar on the cyanide capsule. It’s still a cyanide capsule. And as I recall the only reason this was included in the healthcare bill was to create savings so the bill could come in under Obama’s arbitrary cost numbers. Also community colleges get slammed but then this was never really about helping students so much as providing Obama with his “legacy” legislation.
Jane has a fresh cross-post already in progress: FDL Statement on the Passage of the Health Care Bill
hey as a gay person whose “agenda” is non-existent from this let-down of a president, i haven’t felt true victory since 2006 either. but this HCR is indeed historic and a fabulous start.
I’m not certain what the “obvious” qualifier is. He has a pulse?
The use of reconciliation for 2011 FY budget items is an excellent idea. The Obama administration just has to be able to convince one Republican not to filibuster the reconciliation authorization in the budget authorization. Which means that the initiative to put up for reconciliation must be chosen carefully.
What’s interesting is the Democrats have given the Republicans a chance to run to both the right and left of the Dems. The attack from the right of course would be against the new spending and new taxes. As for attacking from the left, that has the added benefit of settling scores with some party traitors. Most of the healthcare lobbies– the AMA, Pharma, Hospitals and the health insurers– endorsed Obama’s bill and now expect to share in the spoils of victory (the only lobby that refused a WH deal was the medical device manufacturers). There are all groups that the GOP has carried water for, even in the face of public opinion, for years. I’d be surprised if the GOP keeps being such stalwart allies for lobbies that have thrown their support (and campaign contributions) to the Democrats.
The doctors will be OK, the AMA membership will probably purge the leadership that endorsed Obama’s plan and then Republicans will stop playing games with Medicare Part B reimbursement cuts (only Part A hospital charges are covered by the dedicated Medicare payroll tax, the rest of Medicare is funded by annual appropriations out of general revenue). However the Republicans may decide to campaign against the back room White House deals with Pharma and the hospitals (no drug price negotiations and public option, respectively) and hammer at the Democrats imposition of the regressive 9% mandate tax payable to insurance companies. Since insurance premiums are set regardless of income, the richer one is, the lower the percentage of income one is required to pay to fulfill the mandate. It makes Bush’s proportional tax cuts look like the work of John Kenneth Galbraith by comparison.
But the GOP won’t want to give Democrats a chance to make a course correction before the fall campaign season, so its in their interest to pass the reconciliation bill as is and let the bill’s failings sink in before they start hammering the Democrats after Labor Day. The bill’s biggest failing is the 4 year wait– till a month before the NEXT Winter Olympics– to start expanding coverage. There are a lot of sick, uninsured people today who think they will soon have health insurance. Those who are still alive in November will be an unhappy bunch of voters.
Will Republicans Really Stand In Front of the Reconciliation Sidecar?
Does a bear shit in the woods?
You can take it to the bank…it’s all in from here on out.
BTW nice post Beowulf…but IMO the problem isn’t that insurance-less voters won’t see coverage for 4 years, the core problem is that it will take 10 years tax to cover 6 years of program. I think we can all agree the country is in serious debt and our bond rating is on the verge of downgrading according to Bloomberg yesterday, so what happens from 2020 to 2030? Can we afford a program whose fundamental design requires 10 years tax to cover 6 years’ costs. I doubt it. And we all know the CBO “estimates” beyond 10 years are NOT certified by the cbo, they are WAG’s at best; blather.
I also believe one of the great ironies of the bill is that the titanic length of the bill 2000+ pages which was designed to hide the various machinations from the public before they could react, will in fact be used as a goody bag for the GOP to pound the Dems after Labor Day. The bill is literally a smorgasborg of issues to pound the Democratic Party. Strange logic, that.
Thanks for the kind word. The trouble with Obama’s “11-dimensional long game” (to quote Vast Left’s hilarious Obama Admirer chart) is he’s assuming that the Republicans will remain a static target while he’s free to move around the board. However, since Obama appear keen to lock up the corporate welfare vote (or rather, campaign funding), the GOP won’t hesitate to start talking like Ralph Nader to attack him from the left, at least until they’re back in power and can provide the corporate welfare to campaign contributors. :o)
The big economic trend that’s hurt the GOP is the growing income inequality (healthcare inequities being a symptom of this), sooner or later, they’re going to address that issue by reviving Nixon’s negative income tax proposal (in fact, conservative writer Charles Murray proposed just that in a recent book, In Our Hands). Since Murray’s plan calls for zeroing out entire cabinet departments to fund his guaranteed income plan, it will allow Republicans to downsize government and ameliorate income inequality in one fell swoop. To move back on topic, I’m of the opinion that if the Democrats don’t move left on healthcare, the Republican eventually will by pulling a Nixon Goes to Taiwan move and crush the Democrats with a single payer system.
In 1973, Nixon’ HEW Secretary Elliott Richardson was preparing his so-called Mega Proposal, which combined a negative income tax and an income-scaled single payer system (as well as expanded student aid and revenue share to state and local governments, Richardson, and perhaps Nixon, seems to have taken FDR’ Economic Bill of Rights speech to heart). Healthcare section starts on p. 23.
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/custom/portlets/recordDetails/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=ED080148&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=ED080148
Oh, as for your fears about about the national debt and our bond rating… Don’t sweat it, one thing Nixon did right was taking us off the Gold Standard. All of our debt is in US currency and with the GDP having so much slack capacity and labor, there is very little inflationary risk. Iif we need more money, like the Keebler Elves, we can just make more. For a more learned explanation, I’d urge you to read Warren Mosler’s Seven Deadly Innocent Frauds (you can download it for free on the left side of his home page).
http://moslereconomics.com/
…and you guys (and gals) think this is about politics?
…you have no idea what lies in wait tomorrow
…my son just walked out in disbelief an hour ago when I told him that if a stranger came to my door tonight asking me to join and bear arms I will be there
…I’ve worked 45 years and built a business that centered around my employees. In the first few years I took out loans to pay for health insurance as it was that important to me. For the first 12 years every employee earned more than I did. In twenty years I never was away on hoilday more than three days at a time
…this day, it is no longer about politics and what more I should give up for my fellow man. I am 65 years old, put 45+ years into SS and Medicare payments, supported my neighbor and community, built a small nest egg and want to be left alone and not have to worry about others for the first time in my life
…and now I get to sit in wait for some bitch sitting in judgement as to the value of my life vs the expenditure neccesary to sustain me?
…politics on your side and mine is a joke!
…you have no idea what lies in wait tomorrow