Nebraska is implementing a radical new set of abortion laws today that could draw a Supreme Court challenge and test the durability of the 37 year-old Roe v. Wade decision. By tying the bill to a conception of fetal pain rather than viability, the law would break with standing precedent.
Republican Gov. Dave Heineman (R) signed both bills, one barring abortions at and after 20 weeks of pregnancy and the other requiring women to be screened for mental health and other problems before having abortions. Both sides of the abortion debate say the laws are firsts of their kind in the country.
A national abortion rights group already appeared to be girding for a legal challenge, calling the ban after 20 weeks “flatly unconstitutional” because it is based on the assertion that fetuses feel pain, not on the ability of a fetus to survive outside the womb.
Fetal pain is a discredited medical concept, but the Nebraska law isn’t about hewing to scientific reality, but clearly about provoking a Court fight.
As Speaker Mike Flood, who introduced LB1103, and anti-choice organizations like National Right to Life have made clear, passing LB1103 in Nebraska is part of a calculated bid. The intention of its supporters is to bring an abortion rights challenge before the United States Supreme Court, where they’re counting on Justice Kennedy to be their swing vote, based on the language he used in his brief from the Gonzalez vs. Carhart decision in 2007. Make no mistake: this is a national issue that impacts us all.
In addition, this bill really seeks to stop Dr. Leroy Carhart, one of the few remaining practitioners of late-term abortions, from working in Nebraska. But if the state legislature gets their way, they would basically set the precedent to ban abortions outside of 20 weeks entirely. The other law, on determining the mental health of the mother, is subjective and pernicious. Both are designed to chip away at abortion rights piece by piece, overturning Roe in a game of inches.
While anti-choice zealots may have the necessary votes to uphold the 20-week ban regardless of John Paul Stevens’ replacement, this is why the Court matters so much. The right has used judicial appointments in a blatantly political fashion, and unless the President is willing to see basic rights stripped away, he must act boldly.
The Republican right has a deeply disturbing covert extremist agenda for the Supreme Court – end the separation of church and state, undermine the legality of Social Security and Medicare and give individuals the right to ignore any laws they choose [...]
Democrats can – and must — respond firmly and categorically to this extremist philosophy. They must respond by saying that the Democratic Party proudly upholds the traditional American view of the constitution – the view of the founding fathers of this country – George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton and John Adams.
1. That the constitution guarantees religious freedom and tolerance for all Americans of every faith and creed.
2. That the constitution guarantees the right of the freely elected representatives of the people in a democracy to pass laws for the common good. The people have the right to elect new representatives who promise to repeal laws with which they disagree, but not to simply ignore and violate laws of which they do not happen to approve
3. That the constitution protects individual liberty but is not a prescription for anarchy. It provides equal rights for all under a system of laws, but does not provide veto rights for anyone who happens to disagree with a particular law.
The battle between these two views is not a battle from which Democrats should shy away. Most Americans aren’t likely to react well to the spectacle of conservatives demanding a virtual revolution against a popularly elected government, threatening to undermine the legal foundation of the social safety net many Americans depend on for their well-being and seeking to overturn constitutional doctrines that have been in place for many decades and even since the foundation of the Republic.
The Administration knows they will be criticized wildly no matter who they select. Said one official, “He could choose Jeff Sessions to be the nominee and there will still be a big old fight over it.” So with basic rights at stake, the President has absolutely no reason to choose someone to please conservatives, because even his own staff knows that is impossible. And if his selection has actually stated their opinion on reproductive choice, so be it. Those opinions will be ascribed to a blank slate anyway.
Obama’s SCOTUS pick represents his own specific attitudes about the law. He’s already said that the right cannot be satiated in any way. Whoever he chooses, we can assume that’s who he wants on the bench.



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Oh, that the Corporate Stooge in Chief is willing to see basic rights stripped away. Of that, you can be absolutely certain!
And the first comment here is for nothing but bashing Obama.
Nebraska Republican Gov. Dave Heineman (R) – pronounced Hiney Man.
He’ll still try and play nice.
He’s a coward who thinks he can make everyone like him. Also known as an idiot. He’s going to appoint some third way centrist.
Him speakum big truth. Candidate Obama was pretty much into civil rights.
President Obama took a bite out of abortion rights with HCR. President O has reserved all the rights that Dubya had to disappear US citizens on his say so. That is Unamerican.
“Why SCOTUS Matters”. Yeah, it’s the big boogey man that keeps liberals voting for Rats. We’re scared of having the court packed with more like Strip Search Sammy. Well that’s not going to work with me anymore.
But that’s why I expect the Corporate Stooge in Chief (thanks goto100) to appoint a pro-choice justice this summer. He’ll use this to get the liberals in line for this November, and there’s no downside for him because all the forced pregnancy nutjobs hate him anyway.
Obama is the first non-American President, right?
Kagan is pro-choice, but the Rethugs will confirm her on her love of Corporations (Fascism – where government and big business interests meet to run over the citizens).
Who is Rahm choosing? Seems like lots of the named candidates are Jewish, which is fine by me but will probably make the Protestants crazy……..and imagine, 6 Catholics and 3 Jews. What a wonder!
The Patriot Act is unamerican. Bush and Obama are unamerican in their love of such policies.
Obama was born in the US. I didn’t mean to imply that he wasn’t. Its the policies that are unamerican. Cheney did it. Bush swallowed it and Obama follows it.
The abortion issue is one of those divide and conquer thingies. Indeed, it serves to engender internecine conflict whilst the overlords get on with the main monkey business of looting the country.
This notion that human life begins at conception or fertilization is unscientific, a-historical, and for those for whom it might matter, un-biblical. The essential and indispensable component of human life is the possibility of consciousness, which is not possible until brain development has reached a certain level, some time after 28 to 32 weeks of gestation.
This was the essence of an amicus brief submitted to the Supreme Court over 20 years ago by the medical profession and has served as the guide post for all SCOTUS ruling regarding “late term abortion” issues.
Now these Tabibangelicans and anti-women crackers in NE want to turn the clock back to pre-Roe v Wade and dictate to women what they can and can’t do with their own uterus.
Elena Kagan (University of Chicago Law School alumini).
wiki:
“that someone suspected of helping finance Al Qaeda should be subject to battlefield law – indefinite detention without a trial – even if her were captured in a place like the Philippines rather than a physical battle zone.”[8] This view of vast executive power has caused some commentators to fear that she would reverse the delicate majority in favor of protecting civil liberties on the Supreme Court were she to replace Stevens.[9]
It’s an issue that Republics never intend to solve, but to use again and again. With total control of the Government, they passed nothing to outlaw abortion. Yet, their abortion-foe supporters continue to look to them to stop abortion. Just a pat on the head keeps them voting Republic.
It’s telling that the person they are calling “the most liberal on the Supreme Court” is a Republican and a Republican appointee. Unfortunately the political spectrum has been pushed so far right that Orahma will nominate somebody that Ronald Reagan would have been proud to get through the confirmation process.
This case won’t get to the Supremes until Obama has made one, possibly two more nominations to the Court. The Omnidirectional Placater does not seem likely to keep the Court’s current balance, let alone move it back to the left of where Rehnquist and Roberts have taken it.
sad but true
What a stupid argument. Are you saying that conception is a non-essential component of human life? You should go towards the point that life is viable to sustain itself as the sole criteria. The rest are mere drags on society whether in the womb or out.
Obama may have said that the Right cannot be placated, but his personal success has been driven by such placation. He does not seem to have an alternative game plan when his Plan A fails to work. Like water without a vessel, he doesn’t know what shape to take except by pushing back at the ambient pressures around him. That’s another reason the left should not blithely play ball, expecting Obama, let alone the Rahmster, to do the right thing. The left should push hard, to counter the unrelenting pressure from the Right, or Obama will end up doing the Right thing, to the detriment of more rights than access to abortion.
Once again, we’ll have to “settle for”, in this case, someone who will interpret the law as written rather than how it is viewed through the lens of right wing ideology. That sucks but I think represents the reality of what’s going to happen.
Good description. I hadn’t seen it before.
Funny how that “conscientiousness” argument fails when the state wants to try children as adults – their minds are incapable of forming the requisite criminal intent – or put the mentally challenged to death.
I think it originated with Gary Wills, with a little reformulation by Digby. It seems to describe him to a “T”.
Here’s a radical suggestion for you: the Supreme Court DOESN”T matter. Making us worry about this is one of the oldest tricks in the book. Think about this for half a second, and you’re gone: “Gotta vote Democratic, ’cause of the Supreme Court!”
Don’t look here, look over there. BAH.
Beautiful description.
Even larger issue than Obama however is States rights. This Nebraska thing is more of the consequences of leaving law making to the states.
A good article for here would be some research on the various state laws to limit abortion. Latest in Georgia (I think, maybe some other nut state) make it a criminal offense for a physician to perform abortion for reasons of race selection.
Yeah, that’s good. Platitudinous Placater in Chief is sort of a mouth full.
You have no problem with Roberts, Alito, Scalia, Thomas? This is what you get and worse with a GOP Senate.
One-line jokes to the contrary, the forest is made of trees. Missing this particular tree would be more damning than not voting Democratic. Besides, this is an issue that the citizenry could unite behind regardless of how they vote for elected officials.
Ugh! The fascist four!
In any case, there are many here like me who have seen the failure of the Progressive Wing/Ideaology within the Party. We are looking to create a viable progressive third party.
I’ve been for that forever and a day. Drop a quarter into s**t, both sides get s****y. The Democrats can legitimately claim to be “better” than the Republicans but that bar has been set so low that it’s the difference between having leprosy or necrotizing fasciitis. I mean seriously, which would you “rather” have?
I think we should outlaw jacking off, after all just one guy doing it one time kills like 180 million unborn babies. That’s more unborn babies in one day than have been aborted in the entire history of the world.
There are already many third parties. Why create yet another?
Here’s what the NE legislation appears to be based on:
the “HCR” bill is already going to phase out abortions in a few years, the supreme court doesn’t matter on this
Where is that in the bill?
MAybe shore up an existing one. Viability is required.
For some of the moms I’ve seen, all pregnant women should be screened for mental health and other problems before having babies.
I think you have to unless you can find someone like Perot and then get them to stick around.
Wouldn’t it be better to screen them before they get pregnant? The Nebraska Pregnancy License Act of 2010.
How about the dim guys?
Guys don’t have babies, so it’s all the womens fault.
Isn’t that part of the Republic Party Platform?
No HCR will not phase out abortion.. Letting the states decide on health care including abortion will.
Sheesh if ya go on that thought then Menstruating should also be “Outlawed”… Think of all those wasted eggs.. Guess they will just have to keep thier legs together……………………….
/s
Maybe because there aren’t any PROGRESSIVE ones.
you are bad! ;)
That’s right….because all of the fathers are sooooooo stable.
I don’t see what the problem is with passing this law. Many industrialized countries do not allow abortion after a smaller number of weeks than the US prescribes. In fact the US is in the minority in basing its statute on the viability of the fetus. Though 20 weeks is not too different from that–fetuses have survived after 21 weeks.
It’s partly because some serious medical conditions don’t show up until the third trimester but if you believe this law is anything other than a chipping away of a woman’s right to chose, you’re badly mistaken.
They’re just guys. Nobody expects much out of them anyway.
In the third trimester the fetus is often viable. So why would such conditions matter?
I think “guys” should stay the fuck out of our Ladies rights in regards to their own body!! Ya surely can’t separate the two of them…
Prediction: Obama’s court nominees will be just like his last – to the right of stevens, far to the right
no matter — this is between the woman and her physician. They are in the position to know what is best.
Umm. Because sometimes they threaten the lives of the MOTHER? But what am I saying? She’s not a real person! She’s just a life support system for a foetus, right?
I am saying that they already have laws in many states against abortions in the third trimester. So what is the difference? And how do you know there is not an exception for the “hard cases”?
Then I invite you to find that exception before you come along and tell me that this law is perfectly okay.
Preme brain disorders would suggest that while some can develop normal brain function outside the womb after a birth 8 weeks early, many can not.
As for “pain”, Galvin showed a few centuries ago that you can get a nerve reaction in a dead frog’s removed leg – but I dare say that the “frog” does not experience pain.
Fetal pain is a concept that both the American Medical Association and the American College of Obstetricians & Gynecologist disavow as a possibility at this 20 week point – and indeed they do not get into defining a date.
Here’s another post at FDL
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/39090
And check out the linked information on Tiffany Campbell. It’s applicable and very heart wrenching.
Good point, I hadn’t thought of that. That’s like another 150 million babies every month, just in the USA. Good lord I guess we are all going to hell…
Obama is not going to stand up and see that the best is up for SCOTUS.
This would take a fight, and you know Obama [I mean Reagan] wants to show how bi-partisan he is.
I don’t expect to see a really strong candidate submitted by our leader.
This law is a real hit on RoevWade, an already settled law. Also the Hyde amendment has been law since 1994 and prohibits federally funded abortions.
This latest bit goes far further on several levels. Insurance companies may not want the hassle of inviting wrath, or find it profitable to insure abortions in separate policies. Many states now have loopholes that this bill provides that makes abortion difficult or impossible. This hurts working women and others hard as travelling to seek an abortion and justifying rape and/or illness is more than difficult or affordable.
Othe medical/abortion issues will be overlooked and women who’ve struggled for decades to gain the right of choice and equal protection see this backward step as horrendous.
Your first paragraph is pure BS. What is that life, if not human? Conscientiousness is not the definition of human life, as you assert. Life begins at conception, then develops, in stages, over a period of time, into fully functioning beings, be it a human, horse, cat or dog. And at no time during this process, do any being change from one thing to another. If at conception it starts as a dog, it ends as a dog. It doesn’t become a cat, somewhere in its development. Conscientiousness has nothing to do with it. After all, we are not but animals. Our Conscientiousness only helps make us unique in the animal kingdom, at best.
And again, your last paragraph completely ignores the real reason people oppose abortion on demand. It is not about control of a woman’s uterus, as you claim, but is about the taking of innocent human life. Address that argument, not some spurious, disingenuous one of control.
The SCOTUS does make a huge difference. http://bit.ly/9O3AIV