BP has moved their containment dome into position today, and its CEO touted progress in containing the massive underwater gusher spewing thousands of barrels of oil into the Gulf of Mexico every day. In addition, the company has started to set the Gulf on fire again, with another set of controlled burns.
None of this progress (and I’m not counting anything as progress until the oil stops gushing) has done anything for public attitudes in the wake of the spill. In fact, support for offshore drilling is at a low ebb.
A majority of Americans, 58%, still support adding more oil wells to the nation’s coastal waters. But that’s down from 72% less than Ramussen’s March poll. Less than half in that poll, 49%, said the were “at least somewhat concerned about environmental problems caused by drilling. In the new poll, 69% say they’re concerned about the environmental impact of drilling.
The Rasmussen poll was conducted among 1000 likely voters on May 4-5. The margin of error is 3%.
The images of a the creeping oil slick off the coast of Louisiana that experts say could lead to the largest oil-caused environmental disaster in American history appear to have had an effect on Americans who previously said they were in support of offshore drilling. Proponents of the practice have long said drilling will reduce the nation’s reliance on foreign oil, an argument that in the past at least seems to have swayed large numbers.
The first place where this hypothesis, whether Americans still have an appetite for offshore drilling now, will be tested is in Florida, where Kendrick Meek has forced this issue into the conversation around the three-way US Senate race there.
Rep. Kendrick Meek Wednesday backed two tough anti-oil industry bills, as the spill in the Gulf of Mexico began to emerge as a political dividing line in the U.S. Senate race.
Meek, the likely Democratic nominee for the Senate seat, and U.S. Sen Bill Nelson teamed up on legislation to block the Obama administration from carrying out plans to expand offshore drilling — at least until the cause of the Gulf spill is uncovered. Meek also co-sponsored legislation that could put oil giant BP on the hook for as much as $10 billion in damages.
“It’s time to put an end to any and every misguided attempt to drill offshore and put Florida’s coasts and economy at risk,” Meek said of the legislation he’s sponsoring with Nelson. “Any effort to revive offshore drilling needs to be stopped dead in its tracks.”
This puts Marco Rubio and Charlie Crist in a tough spot. So far, Rubio is still supporting expanded drilling off the Florida coast, citing the many oil rigs which are not leaking hundreds of thousands of gallons into the water. What a persuasive argument! Crist, however, is moving in Meek’s direction, saying that “all bets are off” when it comes to new drilling. “This is not far enough, this is not safe enough and it sure as heck is not clean enough … We’ve got to cease and desist as it relates to this.”
Meek wisely followed up, criticizing Crist, who once supported new drilling, for shifting with the political winds, and saying “Rubio has taken a firm position — it’s just the wrong one.” He’s clearly using this as a wedge issue. And I don’t think you’ll see him alone in that effort.
Can’t wait to see the logical leaps the “drill baby drill” crowd take next.
UPDATE: Oil is now washing up on several of the Chandeleur Islands in Louisiana. The more images that come out of this, the more the “Drill Now” crowd has to explain.




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For the moment, Meek finds a comfortable place between the two… can we call them Republicans?
Yep, on this issue, Meek is a Dem as we used to know them.
Who knows what he’ll be if elected and ‘conditioned’ by the system.
Thanks David, for the update.
Crist is working the moderate Rethug and indy vote. Rubio is not their boy and his stance on the AZ law is killin’ ‘im with Hispanics.
Methinks Rubio is gonna end up suckin’ hind teat on this one. Crist and Meek will prolly get the majority of the media attention as well, except when Rubio comes up with a reichwing brain fart.
Wow. Nice to see a Democrat who, ethically as well as politically, looks like he can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Rubio (in my imagination): “God made oil, and the oceans, and the birds and the fishes and the boaters, and the ‘spill’. His will be done.”
Christ: “OK, which way do I fire – to the Right or to the Left? OK, both!”
Meek: “I will never get luckier than this.”
I totally disagree about Meek being a real Dem. When I met him on campus, he was noncommittal on most of what he was asked and just stuck to the generic “vote for me” stump. I’m not from S. FL and haven’t looked at his voting record, but in person he struck me as not all that different from Nelson — unimpressive and opportunistic.
Change my mind, Larue!
In the new poll, 69% say they’re concerned about the environmental impact of drilling.
That leaves 31% who are bat-shit crazy. This country is like an athlete trying to perform with a 20-lb. weight on one ankle. We can’t do the simplest little things because the demented fanatics figure out ways to screw everything up. If they had it their way, the Bill of Rights would be limited to the second and the tenth Amendments, and ten year olds could buy automatic weapons and take them to school.
I’ve lost the Meek links i swore i saved during his committee work early last year (during stimulus) on broadband. IIRC he worked with big telcos and such to lower speeds providers could define as broadband in order to get fed money to build slow wifi to rural areas.
Nicely surmized and summerized hoss . . .
How’s the planet treatin ya . . . . ;-)
*G*
A Game Material, richeer that is.
*G*
You got winds and allergies in the air in The Bay?
We sure do here . . . . *sniff*
Hell no, you saw my comment . . . *G*
Thanks for putting to page what my misgivings are about ALL elected offals!!
*G*
Build SLOW WIFI deliberately? Not FAST WIFI?
I missed the point of that point ES . . . .
I’m GUESSING he sucks and is not to be trusted, though, from your general comment there.
How’s AK today . . . . .
We do. Rains one day, spring-like the next. My family is having allergy fits. I have, so far, escaped.
Better than it was this time last week. *g* Will have new disk brakes on rig manana. And a tie rod that was ready to go. Lucky kid I iz.
FL politics iz gonna be fun ta watch. Charlie Justice trying to oust Bill Young; Crist, Rubio, Meek; redistricting amendments; hometown democracy amendment.
Crist still has the anti-abortion bill on his desk and we’ve been flooding him with comms to veto.
Call me a cynic but that to me just means that big oil doesn’t consider Meek enough of a viable candidate to start writing him checks. It would be so cool if Rubio and Crist take each other out of this race.
Takin’ money from BO (Big Oil) this time around is gonna be the kiss of death.
It cuts both ways.
In certain regions in the Bay Area, the distance to the phone company (DSL) central offices or ‘aggregators’ is in excess of 3 miles, and the law as originally written dictated that you can’t call it ‘high-speed’ or broadband because the speed degrades below a specified performance ratio. The law was amended to allow those names/products despite the sorry performance beyond that distance. And it is sorry indeed.
This is not the case with cable internet.
In the case or rural systems, the lowering of performance specs would allow higher-than-dialup (but lower than suburban) speeds to be ported over typical phone lines.
Agreed. For now. I hate to say this and no doubt I’m going to get flamed for it. Let me be very, very clear: I’m a tree hugger from waaaay back. I complained about mice in my apartment today but refused to allow an exterminator to spread poisons in my unit. My cat and I have managed to humanely catch and evict most of them. I wrote a scathing letter to the local school district in March for blithely mowing down clovers before they could reproduce.
Now that I’ve told you that about me, I think that the very best thing that can happen for the energy and climate change debate is for this oil slick to do as much damage as it’s imaginable to do. I hope it doesn’t impact wetlands like the Everglades and the Aransas Wildlife Refuge as much as it does tourism say and other human for profit endeavors and it hurts me to say this. People only understand money. Money and graphic images. The ecologist in me recoils in horror but the scientist and Progressive in me wants the damage to be enough to finally at long last make the country wake the f**k up about fossil fuels.
Okay. NOMEX suit on. Flame away!
One must recall BP’s plan to ramp-up a major PR surge and realize this is all part of that effort.
I understand that conflict.
The discussion here is centered on the potential economic losses with the ecological disaster the cause. The decimation of the sea and wildlife is hardly mentioned in the media, but they do show pix of dead sea turtles, fish and some oil slicked birds being cleaned.
I totally get that. If I may –
What you’re saying is “What the fuck is it going to take to get attention to make this shit get corrected? Whatever it is BRING It so we fucking FIX IT!”
With all the evidence, it’s maddening that we don’t just fix stuff. And on more than this issue.
Thanks. Yep, you and SDragon are exactly right. I would add that since this is happening whether we want it to or not, let’s hope some good can come out of it. It may not be ultimately worth it but it certainly won’t be if we just shrug our shoulders and stay addicted to the black sh*t. As a former addict myself, I have to say that sometimes one has to hit rock bottom and stare at the visage of the results of addiction in all it’s ugliness and horror before one can kick the addiction. Let’s hope this is our moment.
Margaret amended:
With all the catastrophic stuff that has happened – dumb and illegal wars, collapse of economies world-wide, political fuckery beyond what we could have imagined possible…
Maybe now this Gulf oil crisis will be the tipping point.
How about putting it this way:
Since the oil spill will do incredible damage let Americans come to the very clear understanding of how completely fucked up the oil industry and our addiction to it is.
or something like that.
Truth be told, Margaret, this is how I feel too. But I have become a fatalist since before Copenhagen … and HCR … and hell, everything else. It’s easier that way. And people have to wake up. Or not. I dunno. It’s not like any of this is *new.* Patterns, patterns, everywhere. As Kelly says, What will it take?
“I’m GUESSING he sucks and is not to be trusted…”
Good guess.
(South Floridian)
I’ll be thinking of you when it comes up the Miami River.
Could you find someone else to make your point with, please?
While ecological devastation will be the driving force behind opposition from the left and most national opposition, I think the economic impact will be the driving force inside of Florida.
Pictures of power-white sand and a dark blue gulf juxtaposed with a tar covered wasteland and gray frothing waves will drive away the tourism that NW Florida survives on. Gunk-covered grouper and king mackerel gasping through fused gill filaments aren’t very appetizing. Oysters that smell more like a gas station than the beautiful briny tang of the Appilacicola River will rot in storage bins. No more chunky white stone crab meat either.
Oops…got a little carried away. I think my point was that if you’re opposed to drilling in the Gulf and elsewhere, it may be better to focus on the monetary implications as opposed to the environmental ones. Their only argument for more drilling is that gas, heating, and food prices will increase if we do nothing, which is a powerful, if misleading argument. But, those things are nebulous to most people whereas their weekly paycheck is not.
As long as we can equate oil with disaster, whether its environmental or economic, I think we will have a winning argument. However, if BP and politicians get on message and can spin this in a half-positive light, I don’t think it will matter.
I’ve experienced the same inner turmoil.
BTW, even though I should know better, I’m shocked by the number of people who have made strong public statements that we must go on drilling despite what happened and continues to happen with no end in sight. That’s absolutely insane!
Meanwhile, Obama’s 30 day moratorium on drilling to allow Ken Salazar to review and report back on whether it’s safe to resume drilling virtually assures that Obama intends to resume drilling no matter what. Salazar is a Republican holdover from the Bush Administration and as partisan a supporter of “drill baby drill” as there is in this quadrant of the universe as well as the man who incredibly exempted BP from submitting an environmental impact statement to obtain approval to drill the deepest well in the world to reach one of the biggest oil fields in the world to extract an incredibly volatile mixture of oil and liquefied natural gas under more than 60,000 psi. Can drilling for oil get more dangerous than that? BTW, with respect to the issue of potential adverse environmental consequences, other than the Mediterranean Sea, isn’t the Gulf of Mexico the most dangerous place in the world to, in effect, detonate a nuclear bomb that releases 600 billion barrels of oil?
After all, as Joe Lieberman said, “Accidents will happen, so you just have to learn from them and move on.”
Madness, madness, madness. How corrupt and compromised must a person be not to see the danger to the planet and all living things, if drilling is resumed?