Generally, I think Americans are pretty forgiving, perhaps to a fault, and one misstatement of fact among many will not necessarily sway their opinion of a politician. But a consistent record of exaggerations, misstatements and outright lies can take their toll, and a tipping point hits, where the individual basically turns into an untrustworthy buffoon. This was used expertly by the conservative noise machine against Al Gore, with an ebullient media playing along, even though the so-called “exaggerations” weren’t actually exaggerations at all (see: everything Bob Somerby’s ever written).
But in the case of Mark Kirk, the mistakes keep piling up. And now, the media has switched from the casual puffing-up of his military record to the normal lies and bullshit that conservatives spout on a daily basis. If they want to start down this road, they basically will have enough material to last them the next decade. Because right-wingers make nonsense statements like this all the time.
Rep. Mark Kirk’s problems with exaggeration or “casualness . . . with details,” as he described it last week, go beyond his military record to his comments about foreign policy issues that are supposed to be his strong suit, a Sun-Times look at the record has found [...]
But some of the stories Kirk tells on the stump seem a bit too good to be true. When he last ran for re-election to his congressional seat, he got into trouble for saying China was drilling for oil off the coast of Cuba, which was not true, he acknowledged Thursday in a meeting with the Sun-Times editorial board.
Speaking to the City Club of Chicago last year just after President Obama authorized the shooting of Somali pirates who kidnapped American Capt. Richard Phillips, Kirk got a whole lot wrong talking about pirates attacking ships off Africa.
“We began to see some backbone, not from the U.S. but from France,” Kirk said. “France was always good for a quick $2 million ransom until the election of President Sarkozy. When his first ship was seized, he authorized the standard ransom payment — with a transmitter in the box. As that went into the pirate compound, he then authorized French Special Forces to roll in. And they killed everybody. . . . It kind of shocked us in the Pentagon. But it sent a clear message and I don’t think the French have had many problems since.”
Here’s the problem: Much of the answer was fiction. It wasn’t the first ship attacked after Sarkozy took office; and the French Special Forces didn’t kill everybody. In fact they didn’t kill anybody, Sarkozy has said [...]
Last year, Kirk told WLS-AM (890) that America should drill offshore for oil so we don’t have to import oil from Iran: “We have a fundamental choice. . . . We can either buy 80 billion barrels of oil from the Iranians or from ourselves. And we should buy it from ourselves,” he said.
The problem is, the U.S doesn’t get oil from Iran. The U.S. government has adopted sanctions for any company that would try.
These are merely the normal lies that conservatives tell about foreign policy all the time. They have a narrative, they count on the public’s weak knowledge of foreign policy, and they just hew their stories to fit those narratives. If it isn’t China drilling in Cuba it’s Iraq’s WMD were shipped to Syria or America could have won in Vietnam if they were just given a chance or people in foreign countries wait in long lines for health care or “Dubai, free and rich” or the North American Union and the NAFTA Superhighway or the Shia and Sunni have no history of conflict or any number of a thousand other outright falsehoods.
This kind of thing is the conservative stock in trade, and if media types wake up to that fact and start scrutinizing the claims, Republican candidates are in a lot of trouble.
As for Kirk, he’s quickly becoming a total joke. But no more so than the rest of his political party.




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Yes… also of note:
Mark Kirk Is AIPAC’s Million Dollar Baby
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/mark-kirk-is-aipacs-milli_b_448192.html
http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/Kirk_Mark
Also, another little factoid on Kirk which I’m v. surprised hasn’t come out in the progressive blogs (at this time) — especially with the news surrounding the Democratic Party’s love and protection over Israel is Mark Kirk’s views on what he thinks we should do with the Palestinians and Gaza! ie:
During a ‘hate-filled’ rally with Democrats on hand:
http://jta.org/news/article/2009/01/07/1002074/one-thousand-in-dc-rally-for-israel
This guy is dangerous and we are enabling him, by this fake fuss over his military record — only shows up how stupid our side has been as well!
And don’t we know it (unfortunately) — This is great for Kirk: great ‘name recognition’ for him isn’t it — with at least ‘some’ foreign policy strapped over his nod! And, who the hell is Alexi Giannoulias people will say…
While reading the sidebar:
His district is one of the richest and I used to presume best educated in the state. Chicago Tribune Executives live their. ( My friend deliver the Trib to that area)
They seem to be ab libing to much from the narrative to tell a consistent lie.
Another asset for the Democrats for the election. Just like Sarah Palin.
For most politicians but especially for conservatives, lying has become the default position. They lie even when they don’t need to, even when it’s not advantageous for them to lie. They do it reflexively and out of habit. Look at the whole US attorneys scandal that hounded W at the end of his administration: They didn’t have to lie but they did and that made people look closer at what they had done.
Free just try kissing in public, or talking to a local girl you are not related to. Free the guest workers/Slaves out number the real population.
Rich? Didn’t they almost default on their debt? I guess all those artificial islands shaped like world countries are not selling. Dubai is an example of free markets and no regulation especially an EPA.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7663883.stm
Ok why are liars drawn to the GOP? Bad liars, stupid liars, Obama gots them beat at lying easy.
Note I still think Obama is a bad liar its just the GOP is so much worse at it.
Obama doesn’t lie by default. Yet.
How is the race going?
bmaz is upstairs!
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Good point, and on occassion I’ve pondered why they do it. Of course, the default position for nearly any politician is scum-sucking bottom dweller. That said, I think most pols, but esp conservatives, lie reflexively because it’s another “default” position.
Most of us tend to tell the truth the majority of the time, even those of us who aren’t terribly concerned about morals or values or ethics. Frankly, it’s usually *easier* to just tell the truth; then you don’t have remember stuff. Lying gets complicated in daily life.
However, if you just make it your habit to lie constantly, perhaps it becomes *easier* to continue your narrative?? If that makes sense.
Of course, I’m just fiddle-faddling around with this notion, so who knows?? But it does sure seem as if every single one ‘em lies constantly.
The only difference is that our corporate-owned media rushes to “forgive” the conservatives quickly – sometimes bc they have their little come-to-Jesus photogenic moments – whilst being not so forgiving about the LIEbruls.
urrghhh. Kirk: ugh.
True he’s not yet pathological he’s just bought.
I agree, [and remembering how easily Hillary got away with her Bosnia problem] which is why imho — trying to catch Kirk ‘lying’ about his military service is not that great a hook. And I might add Palin was no asset — it was damn scary how close she got to the WH — plus with all the publicity our side has given her (via huffngtonpost etc) the woman is probably a millionaire by now.
Back to Kirk: Not even Giannoulias is picking up the bait focusing in on his military embellishment, to me that says it’s time to move on and find a different line of attack.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/elections/ct-met-kirk-giannoulis-0601-20100531,0,6982405.story
They start out at the local level – stuff like how the schools don’t need more money because they aren’t getting good results with the money they already have. (I heard something very close to that the other day. Made me want to give the guy a piece of my mind. He’s not nearly as smart and informed as he thinks he is.)
Probably true, but on some days, I really wonder any more about BHO.
It’s also true that citizens are so exhausted and/or inured to pols lying that they really don’t give a frack anymore, for the most part. It’s gotta be pretty bad to get anyone to really pay attention. The only reason why everyone got so “upset” over Clinton’s blowjob is bc the Republics made a giant deal out of it and then proceeded on with impeachment, plus the total waste of tax dollars on Ken Starr’s mastabatory epic. If it had been a Republican who fiddled with Monica, it would have been: IOKIYAR time.
emptywheel is upstairs!
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This is so depressing. We have Giannoulis, who hails from a family of crooks, and Kirk who is a serial idiot. I guess I just won’t vote.
That’s what Rahm is counting on… except those energized by an issue — Kirk unfortunately in this day and age can quite easily be turned into a pro-Israel blue dog… and I believe the Democratic establishment knew/knows that.
Anyone got any recent poll numbers?
Funny, Orrin Hatch seems to have shut the bleep up about crafting a new law to go after Blumenthal in Connecticut. Gee, I wonder why? (/snark)
No kidding. Some unlucky staffer is going to be on HotJobs™ right quick.
Lisa Derrick is upstairs!
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Born, raised and still live in Illinois. As long as your record does not include any violent felony indictments, you’re fully qualified to run for public office. :) After all, this is the home of George Ryan, Rod Blagojevich, Otto Kerner, Dan Walker, Paul Powell and Dan Rostenkowski just to name a few.
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Unlike some of the third party candidates of the past LeAlan has good credentials and is well qualified.