Let’s walk through just what happened last night in the House of Representatives on the war supplemental, and its multiple implications.
The House wanted to pass war funding, and a substantial amount of members wanted to tack on some social spending. Antiwar progressives didn’t want to vote for both the social spending and the war money together. Others wanted their own vote to end the war or institute a timeline. And then there was the matter of the budget resolution, and this bill offered an inviting way to shoehorn that in.
It turns out the House took up five different votes. The first was a vote on the rule, which ended up being self-executing. In other words, the House voted to set the terms for debate on the bill, and never had to vote on the underlying bill. Inside the rule, the bill was “deemed” passed after the rule passed. That was a heavy lift, with opposition from Blue Dogs opposed to the social spending and progressives opposed to the war. It squeaked by, 215-210, with 38 Democrats voting no.
The budget resolution was included in that self-executing rule, and while it’s not really a budget – it’s somewhat different because it doesn’t include the specific appropriations – it limits discretionary spending below the President’s budget blueprint, and (in a controversial move) “Commits the House to vote on any Senate-passed recommendations of the bipartisan Fiscal Commission and that net savings from any Commission recommendations will go to deficit reduction.”
Speaker Pelosi had already promised on numerous occasions that the recommendations of the cat food commission would get a House vote. But adding statutory language is pretty obscene. If the package is particularly distasteful, say an all-cuts measure that lowers benefits for Social Security, Pelosi will be statutorily obligated to put up the vote even if a majority of her caucus disagrees with it. In an odd twist, the filibuster holds the best hope for blocking the commission’s recommendations at this point, as well as the Republican mania against any new taxes.
After the rule, we got five different roll call votes on amendments. One of them included this social spending money, comprised of:
$10 billion for an Education Jobs Fund, $4.95 billion for Pell Grants, $701 million for border security, $180 million for innovative technology energy loans, $163 million for schools on military installations, $142 million in additional Gulf Coast oil spill funding, $50 million in emergency food assistance, and $16.5 million to build a new soldier processing center at Fort Hood.
You can read the full summary from David Obey of the Appropriations Committee here. There were some underlying provisions from the Senate war supplemental that appropriated funds to disaster relief, victims of Agent Orange, mine safety, the oil spill, and other areas.
This money in this amendment is entirely paid for through rescissions in various programs, and actually reduces the deficit by $439 million. But in order to pay for the education jobs fund and save 140,000 teachers, House appropriators dipped into $500 million of the Race to the Top fund. Arne Duncan has been sitting on $4 billion dollars in stimulus money for over a year so he can bribe states into changing their education policies. In the meantime, state budgets are in absolute crisis and hundreds of thousands of teachers could lose their jobs. The deficit scolds want things paid for, so House appropriators proposed taking just a sliver of that $4 billion Duncan is hoarding, to apply to the education jobs fund. The most important possible “reform” right now for public schools is for them to have teachers. If you’re going to use “unspent stimulus money,” Race to the Top is a good place to start.
But this doesn’t meet with Duncan’s cunning plan, so the White House threatened a veto of the bill if that amendment passed. In their statement of Administration policy, they wrote:
H.R. 4899 also contains $800 million in rescissions from education reform programs—programs that will help schools upgrade their standards and instruction so as to better prepare more students to succeed in school and in life. The Administration is more than willing to work with the Congress to pursue fiscally responsible ways to finance education jobs; however, these rescissions undercut programs that have already received applications from more than three dozen States. It would be short-sighted to weaken funding for these reforms just as they begin to show such promise. The Administration urges the House to include education jobs funding in a version of H.R. 4899 that does not rescind education reform funding. If the final bill presented to the President includes cuts to education reforms, the President’s senior advisors would recommend a veto.
What they actually wanted was the same bill the Senate passed so they could easily get their precious war money. And they wanted the maximum amount of shock-doctrine funds to force untested “reforms” on public schools nationwide. Well, they didn’t get it. The amendment passed, and pretty easily, with only 15 Democratic defections and 3 Republican supporters (Castle, Tim Johnson, Kirk). So that’s in the bill.
The other three votes were test votes on the level of opposition to the Afghan war. An amendment pushed by Blue Dogs to embarrass the antiwar crowd by calling for an elimination of military funding got 25 votes. But Barbara Lee’s amendment calling for money to only go toward a withdrawal garnered 100 votes. And the McGovern amendment, which would have required a timetable for withdrawal, received a whopping 162 votes, including the majority of the Democratic caucus and 9 Republicans. This shows a real crumbling of the Afghanistan policy.
So where do we go from here? The House bill differed from the Senate bill significantly, with all kinds of additional spending. It’s unclear whether the Senate can pass a now-$80 billion dollar supplemental. They certainly won’t even try until mid-July when they return from recess. And despite the pay-fors to the education spending (the House bill is actually cheaper in deficit terms, and it doesn’t have that $3.9 billion for Afghan reconstruction to boot), it’s likely that the Senate will balk. Who will blink?
UPDATE: Forgot to mention that the youth summer jobs program and a settlement with black farmers, both priorities of the Congressional Black Caucus, got into this supplemental as well.
UPDATE II: I’m getting some new information that the planned vote on the cat food commission isn’t quite statutory. It’s part of the one-year budget outline and isn’t really binding, just a statement that the House should vote on Senate-passed recommendations in the lame-duck session. As is best on these procedural questions, you should typically check in with David Waldman at Congress Matters. He’ll probably sort it out soon.



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So angry about all this damned kabuki. Cannot believe they tied funding of my kids’ public education to this morass in Afghanistan — ridiculously bad karma.
God, Pelosi and Obama are such little scumbags. Absolutely repulsive.
So much for the “Out of Afhanistan Caucus”. A quick perusal of the 38 Dems who voted “no” and the OOAC list shows that only three members of the OOAC actually voted “no”; the rest of the “no” voters were mostly Blue Dogs. Kabuki indeed.
Will the Agent Orange provision make my teeth grow back or remove the scars from my forearms?
So any politician who swore there wouldn’t be any supplemental funding for the wars, saying it would be included in the defense budget, was lying.
Barry obama our clarence thomas type president, promised closing Gitmo in a year too.
God, I wish there was a way to fight the psychopathic fascist party that didn’t involve helping its counterpart, the useless scumbag party.
Dave Johnson has a fresh cross-post up: The June Jobs Report
Ah, here it is.
“Why, exactly, are hedge fund managers, primarily concerned with their own net worth, bankrolling an advocacy campaign for increasing the number of charter schools in New York? You won’t get much of an answer to that from this article, which mainly restricts their answers to: 1) Mike Bloomberg likes them, 2) hey, free market! But if you go outside the New York Times, you’ll find that there’s more going on here:
On Friday, NY Daily News columnist Juan Gonzalez wrote a column about how big investors can double their money in seven years using a special tax credit to invest in charter schools, and he also discussed what he uncovered in a brief segment on Democracy Now! which he co-hosts with Amy Goodman. Here’s how he summarized it on the air:”
http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/05/10/wall-street-hearts-charter-schools-gets-rich-off-them/
And.
“President Obama is leaning hard on the nation’s schools, using the promise of more than $4 billion in federal aid — and the threat of withholding it — to strong-arm the education establishment to accept more charter schools and performance pay for teachers.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/23/AR2009072303881.html
Thank you for the update. I couldn’t understand why everyone was interpreting “should” to mean “must”.
So in other words we get to see if there are even 41 Democrats who are willing to save what little is left of the New Deal. And lets face it, SS is about the only thing left.
My guess is there probably won’t even be 4, yes FOUR, Senate Democrats willing to vote against gutting Social Security, let alone 41.
Just sayin….
FYI, one of the sweeteners (as if mass slaughter can be sweetened) thrown in to bring more Democrats on board was the resurrection of a provision that got knocked out of the April health care bill: an amendement designed to curb “pay for delay” deals between major pharmaceutical companies and generics manufacturers. These are generally described as payoffs to generics manufacturers to delay bringing cheap copies of brand name drugs to market, despite the expiration of patents and data exclusivity.
More details at Pharmalot, which points out that big pharma companies are, naturally, fighting the provision (which could still be killed by the Senate). Interestingly, as was true when this proposal was considered during the health reform debate, the generics manufacturers oppose it too.
The CBO (and we all know the caveats) estimates that this provision, if implemented, could save the government $1.8 billion in the next decade.
Well, let’s hope that part makes it through the Senate, but I’m not holding my breath. I don’t think it’s that surprising that generics manufacturers oppose the change, I’m sure that the bribes give a better return on investment. After all, doing nothing involves no need to learn how to manufacture a new drug, no materials, no manufacturing facilities, no salaries for factory workers, and no product liability. I’m more surprised that the big pharmaceutical companies don’t pay them to cease producing any drugs at all–the public outcry that would result from it is probably the only thing stopping them.
It’s up to the House to propose spending. It’s their responsibility to kill funding for the war. Without that the President has to unilaterally decide on it’s direction and duration.
If the House doesn’t want to kill it, then that changes a lot.
So much for strategy & team-work.
Ideally we wouldn’t have the government involved in such things as Social Security or our financial records (IRS) since that’s a huge invasion of our privacy and financial security. But, Social Security has been around and there hasn’t been any replacement of note to consider. Certainly the stock market has shown it’s uselessness as a store of retirement value and home ownership has been trashed completely. Republicans simply don’t want common folk to have any store of wealth and the power which goes with it.
So, the goal for now is to fix things and make them run well. That may not seem very radical or progressive and certainly not Liberal, but after 30 years of near anarchy it’s going to have to do. At least we got some HCR and the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and a Consumer Protection agency in the Financial Regulations. These are not irrelevant.
If we were only treading water the complaints would be more reasonable, but we’re trying to get out of the ditch the Bushies left us, so I think things are going pretty well, just not fast enough (as Pres. Obama said today).
The big puzzle now is why the economy is taking so long to get going. Probably lack of consumer capability to spend is a big part, but that’s not the whole picture. Businesses which have money must do something or that money might as well be bubble-gum wrappers. What good does it do for gov’t to push a stimulus plan and several continuations of the UI benefits if $1T or more is being held out of the economy by business leaders?
“US” corporations are sitting on more than $500 billion of cash – because they do not see themselves as “US” except when they need military or diplomatic protection or more infrastructure overseas built by US taxpayer funds – but do not tax them of course or they will not have ant incentive to produce jobs.
They are holding that cash to build overseas, as they assume Obama will do nothing to make US investing a better idea than imports – like a tariff or even a simple enforcement in IRS Code 482 profit allocation rules.
The Obama start has been a right wing GOP start except for the Pelosi stimulus – hard to not see this as obvious.
“Ideally we wouldn’t have the government involved in such things as Social Security or our financial records (IRS) since that’s a huge invasion of our privacy and financial security. . . .Republicans simply don’t want common folk to have any store of wealth and the power which goes with it.” — Speaking just for myself, I wish with all my heart that the common folk still had that part of their store of wealth that represents all the Social Security contributions that were forcibly taken away from them throughout their working lives. That includes me.
It seems odd to talk about keeping the government from getting involved in Social Security when it’s the government that imposed the system on us in the first place. You don’t think the stock market or home investments are a reliable source of retirement funds? They look great compared to the giant Ponzi scheme that is Social Security. It’s going down, and the only question is when and how. Congress will hardly have the courage to end it altogether, so they’ll start with increasing the retirement age and go on to deny payments to “the rich,” no matter how much they’ve been forced to pay into the system during their lives. But one way or another it’s going down.
Social Security is NOT a ponzi scheme. The bulge of baby boomers as a risk to Social Security was identified as a problem back in the ’70s and as a result of the Greenspan Commission in the early ’80s, folks have been paying roughly double the necessary rate into Social Security in order to build up the trust fund to cover the needs of the boomer generation. The talk about it being a ponzi scheme or a drain on the budget is because the rich don’t want to re-pay the massive loans they’ve received in the form of tax breaks so instead, they intend to default on the Treasury Bonds that have been purchase with the social security receipts since the early ’80s.
Current investors are being forced to pay in now to cover benefits to earlier investors, and it’s broke — but it’s not a Ponzi scheme? And the solution is you want even MORE money out of us, now that it’s clear we’ll never see any of the money we paid in? Even Ponzi didn’t have that kind of brass.
Did you miss the part where folks have been paying in roughly double what has been needed for almost two decades? Which means we’ve been paying for the current group AND for the future for those nearly two decades.
What I want is for the rich who received those loans called tax breaks to repay the money.
Unless you’re one of those folks making more than a million a year, then yes, I want you to pay up. Otherwise, you should direct your ire to those who deserve it – the folks at the top 1% who have been ripping off the rest of us and now want to default on the loans made to finance their “tax breaks” and two wars of choice/occupation
The money I made and kept never belonged to you in the first place. In the normal sense of the phrase, when you take money from me by force, it’s called you ripping me off, not vice versa, and it sure isn’t me “repaying” it to you.
Is your appetite for other people’s money never satisfied?
So you have no obligation to any other member of society than your self I take it? So then you refuse to drive on those socialist roads, or use the socialist education or get food that has been inspected or use the socialist hospitals? You refuse police coverage and fire department coverage?
Boy, you rugged individuals rule the world
edit: and I doubt you are making a salary or profit that puts you in that 1% I’m talking of but I know they love you since you’ve swallowed the Rand myth hook line and sinker
When you and your fellow-thinkers can’t muster the consensus to raise tax rates on other people, you aren’t creating a “debt” that they owe you. Nor is the government the only, or even the best, conduit for my social obligations. It’s not something you get to decide for me. Worry about discharging your own social obligations with your own money.
And enough with the “you use the police department” argument. You think the debt is a high a percentage of the GDP because we’re having trouble financing police and fire departments and highways? As for public education, please, I beg you on my knees, keep it and quit charging me for it.
Social Security was paid up through 2037. If presidents stole from it that should not be the problem of the people who paid into it. It was never meant to be used for anything else.
No, I think that the powers that be in Washington have looted Social Security over the last two decades and instead of paying back the Treasury Bonds to allow continued coverage of benefits (that I and other have in fact paid for), you are buying into the myth that it is broke. Or do you support the government defaulting on the obligations of those Bonds?
Again. Your argument is not with me, it is with those folks who have been looting the Social Security to pay for tax cuts and wars/occupations of choice. As I say, the corporations and the Millionaires and Billionaires on the Sovereign Default Commission love people like you as you’ve bought into their spin. They’re laughing at you and you can’t see it.
I did not create this system but I am willing to call bull shit on those who think the elderly in the US are not worthy because they were not born rich.
We may never agree on who stole the “trust funds,” but it wasn’t taxpayers, and it sure wasn’t me. I never put a gun to Congress’s head and made them spend money they didn’t have and shouldn’t ask for. The fact is, the money’s gone and it’s not coming back. Time to adjust. Hope you’ve been living within your means and saving.
You are saying that the government shouldn’t be made to stand by their commentments? What about all of those people that lost their savings and pensions in the corrupt banking/stock market scandal? Would you have them go hungry now?
I hope you never have to do business with any government entities if you’re so blithely willing to see them blow off honestly incurred indebtedness (at least honest from the folks who provided the funds)
And you will be fortunate that not every person in the country and world believes as you do because there will come a time, when through no fault of your own or your family, that you will need to have some support from that same government you so detest and I won’t be among those begrudging you that support. I won’t even say “I told you so.”
You are a better man than I.
Mary: Of course the government should stand by its commitments. It was disgusting to con people out of savings for their retirement, then to squander the money so that it won’t be there when they retire. But that’s exactly what the government has done and is going to do, because Congress couldn’t resist spending the money on whatever made people feel good at the time. When I say “time to adjust,” it’s not because I want it that way, it’s because it’s the way it is. You want to fill up the emptied Social Security trust fund with your money? Go ahead. Just don’t expect others to do it for you. In the meantime, the least you can do is quit taking the Social Security contributions from current workers, now that we know it’s a con and it won’t, in fact, support them in their old age. They should be saving that money for themselves for their old age, not continuing to hand it to Congress to squander.
Don’t you understand? The entitlements have bankrupted the country. You can’t keep it up. You can’t just keep doubling the taxes every time you want to double the expenditures. Even Europe is starting to figure that out. The binge is over.
dakine: See above. And I expect as much support from the government if I get in a jam in the future as I expect from you. When the day comes when I have to rely on either, I’ll be screwed.
First of all, congress did not do this. It was the presidents. Like Reagan realizing that he couldn’t run the country without the taxes that he cut.
Social security may be called an entitlement but we were required to pay into it.
And why are we spending billions and billions on wars of choice? Are we willing to kill or hurt older Americans so we can continue to kill people in the middle east? Did you know that there are only 100 to 50 Al Qaeda left in Afghanistan? Did you know that Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11? We are addicted to war.
And did you know that the subsidies given to corporate America would go a long way to filling up that social security hole? Since corporate America doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the citizens (see BP Tragedy in gulf) I don’t think that we should be giving them money via subsidies.
There are plenty of ways to cut costs. We don’t have to do it on the backs of the elderly.
We spend far less on entitlements than you think we do.
And why is it that we didn’t hear much about solving this problem BEFORE the bank bailouts? All that money could have helped.
None of this, not your belief that Presidents vote budgets into being rather than Congresses, and not any disagreements over what would be best to cut first, is going to change the fact that the government is not going to be able to support any of us in our old age. That is a nasty truth regardless of what the government promised, and regardless of how unfair it was that we were rooked into paying into a government-sponsored retirement plan that’s broke and is never going to recover.
We’re both in the same boat. The only difference is I never believed Social Security would be there for me, so I saved for our retirement with what was left after the government took its cut — just like my parents and my grandparents before me. None of was or will be rich in old age, but at least we weren’t standing on the curb saying, “But where’s my check from the government?” Neither my parents nor my grandparents ever got a penny from Social Security. It is not a fundamental given of life.
And that goes double for Medicare. It’s already dying. Kiss it goodbye and make other plans.
The main reason that Medicare is not well is due to the unfettered, unregulated costs of health care. In other words, the fact that the health insurance industry and Big Pharma are screwing us big time. We are number 37 in the world in health care but pay way more than any other nation.
You must be really old for your grandparents and parents not to have gotten checks from Social Security. I am sixty and my parents and grandparents both got SS.
My grandparents were indeed born quite early. My grandfather also died before SS became mandatory, while my grandmother never was in the workforce. Her children supported her in her old age. My father was born early enough to have been given the option (available at first to teachers) to opt out, and did so. My mother died before she could become eligible. I am not yet old enough to qualify for SS or Medicare but do not expect them to be there for me when I am.
Again, it doesn’t much matter whether we agree on why Medicare is dying. Blame whom you like; we’ll certainly identify different villains. But for your own sake, make other plans while there’s time. We could conceivably have set up SS and Medicare to be self-sustaining, but we elected policy-makers who chose a fantasy instead. It’s far too late now to dig out. Economies can tolerate only so much confiscation before you kill the goose that lays the golden egg; look at Europe. You can’t tar enough of your political enemies as the “evil rich” to be able finance the kind of giveaways that have been promised. You’ll always run out of other people’s money.
Thanks for all the swell advise and concern.
Who’s next on the anti-tax welfare-state hit list?
Well, the welfare state, obviously — defined as able-bodied people on the dole. Let’s save charity for the disabled.