Today a NY Times story, Spend or Scrimp? Two Sides in White House Debate,
Not since the first years of the Clinton administration has a White House had to debate whether to give precedence to stimulating the economy or reducing budget deficits.
After the Reagan years there a massive deficit and debt had built up, combined with a widespread loss of faith in the ability of government to serve regular people. Now, once again, another administration is faced with a vast cleanup effort. But the Obama administration is skittish about strongly advocating for helping the unemployed and spending on infrastructure because they perceive that “the public mood” is against this.
Mr. Obama’s antideficit talk has stoked a skittishness among Democratic lawmakers about adding to the deficit, the critics say, while his failure to campaign consistently for the stimulus measures he proposed in his State of the Union address and in the subsequent budget have allowed those proposals to languish in Congress.
The president and his advisers “want economic stimulus but they fear the politics, especially in the Senate, are working against them,” said Roger Hickey, co-director of the liberal group Campaign for America’s Future. “But I think they’ve contributed to that climate of fear about deficits.”
The “battle” between “deficit hawks” and pro-government forces continues. The deficit hawks – Republicans and “Blue Dog” Democrats, contend that “the markets” want the government to cut back spending on services for citizens which they claim will start bringing down the deficits from the levels left behind by Bush. However they contend that addressing the primary causes of the deficit — tax cuts for the rich and massive increases in military spending — cannot be part of the current deficit-reduction equation. They instead insist that government job creation, relief for the unemployed, assistance to keep states from laying off teachers, firefighters, police and other personnel, health care for working people and the poor, infrastructure projects and Social Security be cut back.
Pro-government advocates say that we need to invest now in infrastructure and education, and to make up for the slack in demand (see chart below) caused by cutbacks in business and consumer spending. They say that this will improve the conditions for businesses which will lead to economic growth that will result in increased revenue to pay off the massive Reagan/Bush debt. They also point out that if “the markets” were really concerned about US debt interest rates for US Treasury Notes would not be at a near-all-time-low.

So the battle between the two sides continues. One side, the “deficit hawks” claim (but, curiously, only since President Obama took office) that deficits like the one that Bush left behind are dangerous, so we must cut back government services for citizens. But they also claim that taxing the wealthy or reducing spending on military or subsidies to large corporations will harm the economy. Progressives claim that government is We, the People, that our economy is supposed to be for all of us and not just for a wealthy few, and that growth and prosperity come from contributing to the conditions that enable prosperity: infrastructure, public education, and solid public structures like courts and the legal system, an open and transparent financial system…., and an honest and truly representative legislature. And dog parks.
Disclaimer, I am a Fellow with Campaign for America’s Future, mentioned in the NY Times story.




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The Times article mischaracterizes what happened during the Clinton administration. We were coming out of a recession. People were concerned about the debt, which at the time seemed huge. So the Democrats raised taxes on the rich. Then when the Republicans won the House in 1994 they insisted on spending cuts, and a cut in the capital gains tax which produced a temporary windfall for the government. Meanwhile there was a bubble developing in the stock market and in housing due to flawed Fed policies.
The good news this time around is we don’t need to do anything to raise taxes on the rich. We just let the Bush tax cuts expire. And Democrats should block any attempt to extend them.
On the spending side, we need to educate voters that running deficits during a deep recession is not a bad thing. We should look for new job-creating opportunities but most importantly Democrats should obstruct any spending cuts.
Progressives mostly have the upper hand here. We just need to be diligent and do a better job with messaging so that the election isn’t any worse than it needs to be.
Can we have less reflexive defense of the Democrats? A Democrat who is not a strong advocate for the unemployed really isn’t much of a Democrat, is he?
OTOH isn’t Blue Dog and Democrat rather redundant when it comes to deficit hawkism? Durbin says we will just have to suck it up on Social Security cuts. Pelosi inserts language sneakily into a bill to set the stage for passage of the anti-Social Security cat food commission’s recommendations later this year, a commission btw which another Blue Dog deficit hawk named Obama created.
Deficit hawkism is not a Republican/Democrat dividing line rather it is Washington groupthink.
If the earth is running out of resources is the answer to rescue the consumer society, or something more transformative?
In any event, none of this is serious while the wars are going on.
“The” Democrats?
See “When You Complain About “The Democrats”
Something more transformative. See “It’s The Economic Paradigm, Stupid!”
Federal budget deficits only matter when a Dem is in the White House, since 1981 when it’s a Rethug admin, “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter” is the approved response. Why should the Ds take the heat to clean up the R’s messes again? Also, when the R’s take the House in November & proceed to impeach Obama, will anyone ask Reid why he insisted on ‘keeping his powder dry’ since 2006? Oops, already got the answer – “NO”.
Sorry, the problem is THE Democrats. See the vote on healthcare. All you are pointing to and buying into is the system of revolving villains and heroes. I don’t care who says what. I want results. Take Kucinich and Sanders (OK, Sanders is an independent). They talk liberal but then fold in the crunch, and they are the best of the bunch.
Spend on people in need and scrimp on war. And tax the rich, thats where the money is. Glad I could help.
The Republican Party and the Democratic Party provided the leadership that brought our country to its current sorry state. The problem is ALL Republicans and ALL Democrats!
Boycott the legacy parties!
Dems refuse to let the deficits stop us from pursuing the agenda to fix what is broken in America. For those who wish to keep Americans weak and flat on their backs this is the crux of the fight.
However, I believe it’s possible at this time that we can cut oil industry subsidies and we can reform the financial institution to hinder their raping of the American pocketbook and in so doing put some pressure on those industries to leave monies for other industries to hire people. Similarly we have reformed the health care industry to limit it’s costs to Americans and the government programs which use it. Similarly we can cut the military to avoid wasteful spending which we can reroute to the unemployed and to spend on other projects which will have a stimulative effect for the sluggish economy. Finally, I think it is worth observing the slow-to-act business sector and find ways to let these business leaders know gov’t can remove other supports and benefits if necessary to push money into the hands of the public instead of the hands of a few rich bastards who want to hurt America.
All they have to do is sit on the money instead of using it and the political pressure will build for Congress to DO SOMETHING — and Congress will act to the dismay of the Rich. “Let them eat cake [bread]” is not a satisfactory statement from the Rich today, just as it was not when originally uttered.