For all the flinging of insults at those individuals in the blogosphere, with little relative power to influence either public opinion or public policy, for saying mean things about the President, to the extent that anyone is responsible for “ruining” Obama’s presidency, it’s his own economic political advisers, who have been prioritizing deficit reduction over economic recovery for the last six months, and whose policy prescriptions would doom any chance at a comeback in the medium term. Voter understanding of the economy is weak at best – heck, elite opinion-maker understanding of the economy is almost non-existent – but they generally take their cues from their own experience with the economy. If they’re able to find jobs, spend money, have a vacation and access to some luxuries every now and again, they will give the party in power high marks for their performance. If they see mass joblessness, a lack of increase in wages, creeping insecurity about their personal job positions or their retirement options, they will blame the government. It’s a pretty simple rule of thumb that has completely escaped the President’s political team, not his economic team.
I don’t know that you could make a blanket statement anymore that the economic advisers know best – economic advisers have made a habit of letting the nation down these days – but in a contest between the economic team and the political team, I’ll take the economic team most of the time. The public doesn’t rely on economic theory to shape their opinions, they rely on results. They can be told that deficits drove the recession or some other pabulum, but the greatest antidote to this fearmongering would be tangible improvements in their economic picture.
The most frustrating part about this is that not only would austerity budgeting, or even a lack of stimulus at this point, have the opposite effect in the near term, but there’s credible evidence that it would worsen the long-term deficit, precisely the problem that such actions are meant to solve.
Unemployment checks have the added benefit of helping these people feel like they’re still a part of the labor force. When the checks run out, and with few glimmers of hope in their job searches, they’re more likely to drop out of the labor force and turn to a program like disability.
And unlike a relatively short-term fling with jobless benefits, their attachment to disability is more likely to be permanent.
“Current program incentives make it highly likely that marginally qualified applicants drawn into the program by the business cycle will provide a long-term burden for the disability rolls even if business conditions Improve and the severity of the person’s disabling condition(s) does not worsen,” according to a 1995 study by Kalman Rupp and David Stapleton.
Other studies have shown that for each percentage point increase in the unemployment rate, disability rolls increase anywhere from 2% to 7%. Some studies show that effect grows larger in the following two years.
That’s just one consequence of not renewing unemployment benefits, for a small sector – the 50 and over crowd. In fact, austerity programs have a tendency to make the long-term budget outlook worse in the long term over a broader segment of the economy.
So here’s the outline. Suppose you slash spending equal to 1 percent of GDP. That looks like a budget saving, right? But if you do it in the face of an economy up against the zero bound, so that the Fed can’t offset the demand effects with lower rates, it’s going to shrink the economy [...]
The WSJ piece showed one example: workers driven permanently out of the labor force. There’s also the negative effect of a depressed economy on business investment. There’s the waste of talent because young people have their lifetime careers derailed. And so on. And here’s the thing: if the economy is weaker in the long run, this means less revenue, which offsets any savings from the initial austerity.
How big do these negative effects have to be to turn austerity into a net negative for the budget? Not very big. In my example, the real interest payments saved by a 1 percent of GDP austerity move are less than .02 percent of GDP; if the marginal tax effect of GDP is 0.25, that means that a reduction of future GDP by .08 percent is enough to swamp the alleged fiscal benefits. It’s not at all hard to imagine that happening.
In short, there’s a very good case to be made that austerity now isn’t just a bad idea because of its impact on the economy and the unemployed; it may well fail even at the task of helping the budget balance.
This is not to say that you can never cut budgets because they always increase deficits – this is not Laffer curve talk. It is the case that cutting budgets during an economic downturn, with no private investment to pick up the slack, and with monetary policy at the zero bound, does in fact worsen budgets. That’s just a mathematical reality.
And yet we have a White House political team putting into action a deficit-cutting strategy that will increase future deficits, and which does not speak to the concerns of the electorate, which are about economic performance. This passage from Ryan Grim’s excellent piece on the subject crystallizes the insanity at work:
The Obama political team’s focus on the deficit raises the question: Just who is this hypothetical midterm voter who was leaning to the GOP because of deficit concerns, but will vote Democratic if only Congress trims a spending bill from, say, $250 billion down to $80 billion? Most voters — and most reporters, for that matter — can’t guess within a few hundred billion what the budget deficit is, and would struggle to put a dollar figure on the latest jobs-bill proposal. So how is it, then, that a voter would cheer saving a few billion dollars by cutting off COBRA subsidies?



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Fixed; However the elites understanding of their bank balances and net worth is outstandingly excelled.
Obama and Rahm are so eager to serve their corporate masters that they’re willing to lose in 2012. If he thinks I’m voting for him, he’s nuts.
It would be comical how woefully craven Obama is if it wasn’t so destructive.
Been away just who is insulting us for ruining Obama’s Presidency? I’m pretty sure Obama would not have gotten any Lefty votes if he ran on his Present stands on the War, Economy, Healthcare etc.
People just don’t like liars so deal with it.
This is what President Hoover tried during the Great Depression Obama really is trying to give Bush a run for his money as worse President ever.
If the System fails Hitler or Stalin become our choices.
Your watching to much Fox News the Tea Baggers are not a majority people want jobs they want healthcare they are willing to end both wars and tax the rich to get them.
Cutting Social Security nope.
I have never been part of a majority in my life :)
The fact that Obama surrounded himself with the kind of people that he did, imho, strongly indicates the kind of person and politician that he is.
Higher crime rates thanks to higher unemployment. Plus I bet the GOP is counting on African American riots this summer I bet they are praying for global warming. The GOP wants this election to be about unemployed African Americans burning down stores and shooting cops.
Obama’s team claims they are from Chicago they should understand this. I think they are all really from the Burbs.
I haven’t a clue as to who David is talking about, but I will say I’ve found humor in some of the trolls over the past few days stopping by and insulting a great many of us for not realizing what a great and wonderful leader O and the D’s have been for us.
It’s funny because I really don’t think any credible person could say with a straight face that Obama and the Democrats have governed the way their campaigns made it appear they would govern. They have, to sum it up in a easy way, moved further right than what I, and I’m sure many others, would’ve guessed.
Which is fine. They’re allowed to do that. THey probably feel there’s a lot of center right votes out there to be had these days because the Republican Party has moved so far right they’re nuts and maybe they could “claim” these center right votes for a generation for the D’s and be a permanent majority. (ala, Karl Rove thinking).
OK, fine. Good luck with that.
But then, when they move right and no longer represent those of us on the left, and we therefore look for someone else that will represent us, MY GOD THE WORLD IS ENDING THE FDLERS ARE FIREBAGGERS ARE AS BAD AS TEABAGGERS PURISTS PERFECTIONISTS BABIES, yadda yadda yadd.
Assholes, if the Party’s decision is to move center right and go for those votes, then they must’ve already determined they NO LONGER NEED OUR VOTES.
SO WHAT’S YOUR PROBLEM WITH US LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO REPRESENT US???? Are you getting a little worried the D’s might’ve fucked up and instead of replacing our votes with new center right votes, they might lose our votes but not get the new center right votes?????
Well, jeez asshat, WHOSE FAULT WOULD THAT BE???
Sometimes I want to try and talk to the trolls. Sometimes I want to reach in the screen and smack ‘em upside the head, but often, very often, I laugh out loud and just how stooopid they’re lack of logic and following things out to their logicial conclusions leaves them.
OBAMABOT TROLLS: If Obama wants our votes, he can govern in a way to earn them. Or he can choose to govern in a way to get center right votes. But he can’t govern in a way to have earned both. He and the Democrats made their choice, now they and you D apologists must live with the consequences.
The Savior taught that “by their fruits ye shall know them” (Matt. 7:20)
Was true, is true, and will be true.
The trolls don’t hang around very long. It’s more like hit & run.
Really do we lie like the Tea Baggers we don’t have to lie we got facts links and are willing to debate anyone!
The choices may be Palin or another Bush, which is just as frightening.
Obama get Righty Votes sorry no matter how much he begs the Racists will never love him. Just look how Rahm treats Obama leaking all over the place he has no respect for Obama.
( Rahm’s message to House Dems to run against Immigrant Rights qualifies him as a Racist. )
Yes Hitler and Stalin both had some brains and ideas. Those two don’t have a single thought that wasn’t decided in a right wing think tank. They don’t have any ideas backed up by real world experience, The entire GOP stopped having new thoughts with Reagan even Newt just rehashed Reagan.
By another Bush I take it you mean Jeb.
Yes, John Bush.
Nope just the sellouts who work in Media lots of econ blogs thought Bush was a disaster.
Mexican Wife Jeb wants to run as someone who can bring Hispanics back to the GOP. The Tea Baggers however will bolt I wonder how Jeb will handle that problem?
Wouldn’t an increased deficit give the administration “more fuel for the fire” as to why a reduction of social security and medicare benefits is absolutely necessary? This may be the strategy the administration plans to implement after the 2010 elections to get ‘r done.
Good question. Hard to head a racist party when you have crossed racial boundaries.
My thought, too. Seems like a strategy to crash the economy further, and then say: welp, “sorry” folks, guess we just gotta do away with that SOCIALIST Social Security that you serfs don’t deserve because you’re lazy cheating scum anyway. And the righties will lock step behind that for double sure. The righties I know are already beating the drum about how none of us deserver SOCIALIST social security… conveniently forgetting or ignoring how most of us have been paying into it for years.
So, yeah, seems like their plan: more depression for the “small” people, while the “big” people make out like bandits. Leftie trolls scold us here for not being Obamabots, and rightie trolls scold us for being lazy bum scum commies who never did a damn thing to contribute to anything because we’re all sitting around smoking reefer and listening to rock ‘n roll, ya hippie scum you! And none of us “deserve” SOCIALIST Social Security because none of leftist ever saved a dime; nope, we all just spent it on reefer and tunes and sitting around enjoying life and stuff. So: eat **** and die, you lazy non-contributing hippies. Dog frowns on you.
Got it.
Oh I wish…
Well—I wouldn’t say all that. I was just sayin’ that it may play into the administrations hand as to why we got to do some cuttin’
I couldn’t care less what the mouthbreathers on either side think. They’re desperate, and you can hear it in their squeaks.
: )
I don’t know how they’ll get that when the democrats have already stopped the funding for Medicaid/state aid…doesn’t look like it’s coming back either. and I’ve heard nothing about this on the so-called progressive media. Schultz has spent his whole program on illegal aliens.
We’re going to lose even more jobs as states slash their budgets and alot of employees.
As for Medicare; only the gods know what’s going to happen to that program.
I’m really pretty worried because I think Obama is willing to be a one term president in order to cut these programs.
He’s already mentioned a one term which I’ve never heard a serious president say that before.
Morning Joke was tapping Palin for 2012! Maybe it’s time to just come out and quit the fiction of the presidency at all and just go ahead and call themselves “EMPEROR”
If you’ve got ‘em, smoke ‘em
The Democratic leaders, including Obama, listen to dumbass tea baggers more than they do their own base that got them elected.
Actually, it’s clear to me they don’t listen to anybody except corporations.
I’ve seldom been so frustrated with a presidency as I have become with this one, creating more problems than it fixes.
We need to primary Barry’s ass.
I guess I disagree with the premises of your post. The creatures who become “economic advisers” will be found almost inevitably to have the standard neo-liberal biases such as “you can’t spend money in the the real economy because “the markets” won’t like it.” I actually had more hope for the politicians who, for all their craven venality, might have been expected to have had some basic instinct for political survival.
I have to ask folks, do you honestly “believe” theres really any difference between any candidates and their “partys” anymore?
the fact is that their all OWNED by the corporations!
the country will continue its economic decline until the people demand it stops, but the whining gutless american citizenry has no testes anymore.
the CURE for corruption is public execution of state officials and corporate heads, the Chinese seem to understand the simplicity of this problem, the reason we have such problems with public corruption is that the PEOPLE have no desire to remove the aristocricy, those politicians that agree with their insane religious views to keep their vote, not to mention the vast number of mental incompitents on the voting rolls!
It is the PEOPLES responsability to make these changes, stop voting for morons that want to over turn the constitution as the corporations desire and vote for those that would use the constitution to inprison the corrupt scum!
those that are unwilling to clean their closet have no right to expect some one to clean it for them, so get the garbage can and remove the scum from your enviroment!
have to ask folks, do you honestly “believe” theres really any difference between any candidates and their “partys” anymore?
the fact is that their all OWNED by the corporations!
the country will continue its economic decline until the people demand it stops, but the whining gutless american citizenry has no testes anymore.
the CURE for corruption is public execution of state officials and corporate heads, the Chinese seem to understand the simplicity of this problem, the reason we have such problems with public corruption is that the PEOPLE have no desire to remove the aristocricy, those politicians that agree with their insane religious views to keep their vote, not to mention the vast number of mental incompitents on the voting rolls!
It is the PEOPLES responsability to make these changes, stop voting for morons that want to over turn the constitution as the corporations desire and vote for those that would use the constitution to inprison the corrupt scum!
those that are unwilling to clean their closet have no right to expect some one to clean it for them, so get the garbage can and remove the scum from your enviroment!