When I was leaving Las Vegas (don’t break into song), I encountered a guy on the elevator who was talking to his friend about his loss of home equity. “It’s like playing at the casino,” the man said. “You have a bunch of chips, and after a few hands, you look down, and they’re gone.”
This was a common theme at the Netroots Nation conference. Not specifically a guy relating home equity to a loss of blackjack chips, but attendees casually mentioning their interactions with people in Nevada who are struggling. Ryan Grim and Arthur Delaney, in a superior piece, basically extend out that anecdata by talking to numerous residents about the state of things in Nevada during the Great Recession. They muse that the reality of Nevada could equal the future of America.
On a cul-de-sac in the once-pleasant neighborhood of Silverado Ranch, Larry Wood is the last remaining resident. Two of the four homes are in foreclosure and a third is a “party rental” only occupied by rowdy tourists on weekends. One of his neighbors made a few bucks before abandoning the home, he says. “They sold all the palm trees and just walked away from it,” says Wood, sporting a “Freedom Isn’t Free” T-shirt. “It’s a great neighborhood. I guess that people weren’t financially set up to get through the crash.”
Wood takes little comfort in being the last resident. “Sometimes it’s scary. There’s a possibility someone would try to rob me and I wouldn’t have any neighbors to help me,” he says, recounting a previous attempted intrusion when his then-neighbor called to warn him not to answer the door because there was a group of thugs knocking. Armed and ready, he huddled near the door but the gang gave up and left.
You don’t have to go far to find these stories in Nevada, where the unemployment rate sits at 14.2%, and where nearly 6% of all homes received a foreclosure filing in the first half of the year.
This is a heartbreaking story, and I urge you to read all of it. But sadly enough, Grim and Delaney’s thesis about this being the future of America isn’t all that hard to predict. The White House’s Mid-Session Budget Review predicted 9% unemployment by the end of 2011, and won’t fall below 6% until 2015. But that last bit seems like a wishful scenario. Corporations have figured out how to make money while keeping labor costs down, raising the spectre of long-term structural unemployment. An entire generation of Americans, known as “Generation Y,” is experiencing a lack of jobs, ballooning loans, and a difficult future. The unemployment rate for those aged 20-24 was 15.3%, which significantly retards their career growth and earning potential.
This may not be able to last. I don’t know how you can have consumer confidence down and corporate profits up well into the future. Consumer spending makes up too much of the US economy. At some point, corporations have to give the people some money so they can buy their wares. And maybe the unemployed can organize and take out, one by one, those whose policies are threatening their hope.
Among the biggest sites in the unemployment netroots is LayoffList, managed by Michael Thornton, a native of Rochester, N.Y. Thornton stared LayoffList in 2008; five months ago, he began writing articles and posting legislators’ information. He now receives hundreds of emails and has logged more than a million hits. Thornton is finding that, rather than losing interest in politics since the end of the fight for extended benefits, the unemployed are “energized and motivated” and have started looking forward to the fall.
“Even Republicans say they aren’t voting Republican anymore,” the soft-spoken former technical writer says. “You have millions of unemployed people out there. If even half of them voted, they could swing a nationwide election.”
What I know is this: the middle class has been gutted from the inside, and without a mass movement created to stop those doing the deed, we could submit millions in the middle class to a horrible fate.



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Isn’t it interesting how docile we all are.
conditioned to believe that it’s our own fault, or there’s nothing that can be done.
poor people in Chicago, Detroit, this is their life, has been for quite a while, as far as I know.
kids gunned down while sitting inside watching T.V. . Houses with razor wire around the yard. ( saw that last one in person, in Los Angeles… Compton.)
It’s been tolerated there, so why not elsewhere?
Consumer spending, sure. But that doesn’t mean it has to be US consumers:
I think Michael Lind hit pretty close to the truth, even if he thought he was kidding:
I just had a conversation with my daughter. She just moved to Las Vegas to take a nursing job. She couldn’t find one anywhere else since she was a new grad. She said that she has no neighbors. All of the homes have been foreclosed in the development where she works. She has twenty months left on the contract at the hospital. It is like she is serving some weird kind of sentence.
Of course the chips are gone. Barack Obama sat down at the poker table with the straight flush and the huge stack we gave him, and then proceeded to fold his hand and slip the chips to the republican party, under the table.
I believe that’s the entire Obama economic strategy
Sorry to hear about your daughter Mary. My son lives in Los Angeles (yikes!)..is a very multi-talented, multiple skilled 36 year old who has been unemployed for almost 18 months. Can’t move out, can’t move on…basically locked down where he is because of lack of resources. So when you say serving some type of weird ‘sentence’…I think I know what you mean.
There might not be any bars or locks, but for a lot of folks, living in this economic hell is like a prison.
We are all going to be sharing quarters with kids, parents, friends soon especially, if Social Security is cut.
Some people have all the luck. Every single neighborhood in Las Vegas is shutting down? So, she can find friends elsewhere?
She said that she has found people to hang with who share her interest in swimming and biking. But says it is just so strange to go to parties and hear people talk about foreclosures, no jobs, etc.
It’s going to get worse, much much worse. Give our corrupt, arrogant, whoring political class another 10 years and you won’t recognize your country.
I think that’s happening everywhere. Don’t you? She’s got a job and that’s all good.
Thank you for that. I was just enjoying my peeled grapes.
Thank you for that. I was just trying to enjoy
ingmy peeled grapes.Slight edit… ☺
Ha! Actually, barbequed burgers. My friends are always astounded that I do my burgers like meatloaf. With an egg and chopped onions. I guess I’m just strange.
Nah it sounds good.. kind of like meatballs…but different spices ☺
I’ve lived in Vegas for 18 years.
Yeah, we’re a harbinger. We’re the next Anasazi Ruin. Lake Mead is down to 43% of capacity and dropping. 3/4 of our residential mortgages are underwater (mine is not, but neither will I cash out any appreciable value when it comes time to emigrate). Our NV taxable sales receipts have been dropping month by month for more than 2 years.
The larger picture is this: The U.S. comprises 5% of world population while consuming 25% of world resources. But, it’s bigger than just us. Since 1986 humans have been running a sustainability deficit that is now up to about 130% and is expected to go to 200% by 2050 or sooner.
We have been consuming the future. At some point that will stop. It will be ghastly, absent concerted, rational, unified action.
Which is unlikely.
We are pretty much screwed.
The best revenge is making a good life.
Imagine, going to Vegas and getting screwed.
I always make hamburgers that way — and get rave reviews. Primarily because I can fire the piss out of them. Brilliant minds …
When you put love and effort into any task, it usually reaps good results. Just my experience. PS. love your mind.
Question is why isn’t Oilbomber doing a damn thing to help people? The guy’s useless. Worse than Hoover.
So out of touch.
My whole 40 some odd years and all we’ve had are crap presidents, one after another. It’s bound to take a toll. America is in trouble folks.
Hmmm. You know there was that “Bonus Army” way back when.
In these times there will probably be another Bonus Army; when people march on DC and/or NY when Goldman Sucks announces their bonuses again.
a friend told me today, in all innocence that mid-range priced homes are selling like hotcakes around here.
My immediate, suspicious response was ” yeah, but who’s buying them?”
Corporations would be my bet or banks at half the value
Where do you live?
Democracy died with JFK and Bobby.
I still think someone had a hand in Teddy’s demise as well; The timing was just too convenient
High Desert….. and that’s as close as I’m telling on a site that I’m sure is assiduously read by the NSA…it’s the least I can do for my peace of mind…although I know they can find me anytime they want. Why make it easier?
Dream on, Kelly. Yeah, the Bonus Army happened way back when. Citizens of today? Not so much.
The rightwing noise machine has an impact on ALL citizens, no matter what their affiliation, and everyone’s been carefully taught that it’s all our fault. The Republics have been singing the tune that if you’re unemployed, it’s because you’re a shiftless, lazy-@**ed, drug addicted loser, expecting others to be your nanny. If your home foreclosed, it’s because you didn’t believe in Jesus or some other nonsense.
Too many citizens are far too willing to roll over and blame current economic conditions on the poor and middle classes. I’ve been lectured very recently by Republicans I know – one who’s been unemployed for over 2 years no less (but has enough savings to live on) – about how the top 1% pay *so much* in taxes… and that’s why the top 1% is *forced* to off-shore jobs. No ****. But I’ve had Democratic voter pals say similar kinds of nonsense to me, too.
Citizens of the USA have really been brainwashed, that’s all I can say. I expect nothing anymore. Much easier that way (sorry for nihilism).
Oilbomber……that’s a good one! Kudos
For what it’s worth, I agree
I totally understand. I felt a little unease after asking.
See rewilding of North America…Google comes up with VERY interesting side notes if one looks
I hear similar stories in my area of CA, but I’m not so sure. I do hear that there are often bidding wars at the very bottom end, so that the really cheap foreclosures (if they’re in a reasonably decent neighborhood) are being bid up in price.
That was happening this past spring and early summer.
Yet I notice now some houses in our area (which is pretty good) now going into 2d & 3rd foreclosures, and the housing prices overall have dropped like a stone just lately.
I see real estate articles in the local newspaper that don’t seem to “sync” with the reality of the kinds of prices I see in our neighborhood… and the amount of homes on the market for many months at a time.
I dunno… I don’t get a good feeling in general, and I think (gasp, shock) that we’re being lied to by the corporate media (who’d a thunk it???).
In feel the jackboots getting closer and closer.
has a million interpretations, like one person’s junk is another person’s treasure!
My interpretation of the good life is to have loved ones, family and friends in good health, a job where you get a honest day’s wages for an honest day’s work, the ability to speak and express your beliefs without persecution, and to pursue your dreams without harming others, or they harming you…and to have the trust and confidence that those elected people who are supposed to represent the country’s best interests are not sucking the lifeblood out of it’s citizens and being amused by doing it!
Basically life, liberty, and the pursuit of some form of happiness. That good life seems a distant memory for many these days.
Hard to believe isn’t it?…until one sees that absolutely NOTHING is being reported on TEEVEE about either the theft of state aid for the WAR chest or the behind closed doors attack on SS.
And the gods know, if it isn’t on TEEVEE it’s isn’t happening. Ah! blissful ignorance…until Dec.
I wish I could’ve come to nutroots ( I’ve always called us the nutroots, Limbaugh picked it up from ME!) and meet all you people….but the condition my condition is in just won’t allow that.
I would have loved to see Pelosi screaming from the podium. say what we will about her, that granny is HOT!
What I remember of the “good life” was aspects of the 1950s through the early 1980s or so. Since then it’s all been a slippery slope down hill, serendipitously happening around the time that the really nasty rightwing noise machine started kicking into high gear (and Reagan and the usual suspects grabbed us all by the short & curlies).
This last half decade or so, though, hooo boy… really bad and seems like it’s just gonna get worse. I really feel badly for the younger generations cuz I think they’ve been robbed. The Greatest Generation and the Boomers have a lot to answer for. Now don’t shoot the messenger cuz I’m a Boomer, too. But I don’t think our ge-ge-ge-generation has done a s***hot job, imo. And I’m kinda glad that I’m getting up there in age so that I can just fa-fa-fa-fade away. Not gonna be pretty.
I’ve lived in 3rd world countries. Most people here have NO clue what they’ve sold themselves short on by kowtowing to the uber-wealthy, who as one prior post indicates, the super rich no longer have to rely on dumb idiotic US peons anymore to make their money. We are home and hosed, my fa-fa-fa-fa-friends….
Nevada is the future of the USA. There was no economy in Nevada besides hyper-inflated land values, the service industries surrounding it and gambling. Nevada’s most prominent natural resource is drought. I truly do not mean to be cruel but there is a real problem here. Why should any hard working American who didn’t get caught up in the” I can make a killing in real estate” get socked for the bailout. The Banks and mortgage brokers need to pay till they bleed. But the buyers need to take some responsibility too. If you have a household income of $60k you could never under any circumstance, in any way, afford a $400k home. EVER! You made a horrible decision. It is insanity to think that any amount of help will result in this scenario working or helping most of the people upside down. Obama not only continued to let the crooks off the hook he gave them a fine multi-trillion dollar going away prize. I agree with veganrevolution “America is in trouble folks”
You’re talking dignity and we can have that in ourselves. We don’t have to tie it to conditions.
Still, it would be nice to have all those things the fascisti are taking away
Hey: remember linking pinky fingers and going: JINX?? I think we just did a vitual Jinx… ha ha … gave yourself away, Kassandra, and now they be coming to take you away ha ha ho ho hee hee (sorry, couldn’t help myself; don’t mean it)… ;-)
I wonder if I’ll have to put my money under a mattress pretty soon. Sure feels like the Thirties to me, except instead of FDR we have a useless flunky in charge, surrounded by amoral capitalist cretins.
The corporatists will eat all our money eventually. Time to put some away so they don’t get it all.
I refuse to take responsibility for the idiots who buried their heads in the sand of my generation. I was at the front of every damned social & environmental movement that came down the pike in the late 60′s and 70′s. We fought the good fight and what we see today is the end result of the PTB reaction to their fear of us…all of it.
Remember, all of the boomers weren’t of “the tribe”
FOO!
I quit using a bank, any bank about three months ago.
For all the pain it’s causing, it seems to me that housing prices just HAD to go DOWN, and I fear that they probably still must go down further.
What I saw in CA was sheer utter madness that made no sense, and from what I heard about Las Vegas or NV, in general: more of the same.
I moved during the height of the boom, and I was told by nearly everyone that I HAD to buy, and buy NOW NOW NOW bc the prices would just “keep going up into infinity.”
I was like: WTF??? For some reason, I seem more able than some to see reality a bit more clearly (I hope that doesn’t sound rude). But I ran some figures on it, and it made NO sense to buy, even IF somehow the prices kept going up. But when I learned more about all of the crazy loans out there, I was: no effen way!
Hey, I’m not some real estate genius, and I hope not to offend anyone, but it was N-U-T-T-Y to think the boom would never end. Much like the dot.com boom that preceeded it. Nutty.
So I have feeling that, no matter what, housing prices just have to keep coming down. I really don’t feel like even now is a good time buy, as I think the prices will drop some more (sad to say; don’t wish to harsh anyone’s buzzzzzz).
I’ve always got some stashed…always
Well, yes: and me too. But I’m speaking generally. I do certainly get it that most here at sites like FDL did not participate much in the madness, yet we’re caught up in paying the price.
So I suppose I could say: present company excluded!!!
Here’s how some, I suspect many, companies propose to do it. It’s one way to get an economy that adapts to those permanently higher average rates of unemployment: accept a shrinking market.
Industries Find Surging Profits in Deeper Cuts
Combine permanently smaller, profitable markets for enough consumer goods with a shift of the balance of the most remunerative sectors away from manufacturing goods altogether and toward juggling financial hot potatoes, and one might wonder whether Michael Lind was kidding at all.
It’s a good plan. Same here. Guess we’re just kids of Great Depression parents, so what goes around, comes around.
Now MY problem is REMEMBERING where my stash is… lemme see here… lol
I have sweet dear grandchildren whose very presence in my life gives me the will to keep on hoping and striving for a better day. But when I gaze into their trusting eyes, I am also struck by fear and worry for what the future may hold for them. I gather the tethers of my dignity and varied experiences of the years of living through the sixties right up to the present day, and insist on making a hallowed space somewhere within myself that I can share with them as we travel the road ahead together…I owe that to them and to myself.
I will fight with every breath before I let that space be robbed from within me. I think we all must fight for some shred of dignity and hope, no matter what.
True, and maintain a sense of humor. Best to your grandkids (and you).
Funny…..I’m going now to read ” The Subtle Knife” which someone here, I think it was Margaret, recommended. Fantasy books are my sanity these days…and Joseph Campbell’s “Masks of God” series. I’m on “Creative Mythology” ( the last one) now and it’s mindblowing because its’ exactly what I believe.
I do so love being proven right! ;^)
good night, sweet Prince…..
Thank you onitgoes…
and you are absolutely right about possessing a sense of humor. When you have grandchildren it is essential, or your’e toast!
Sounds like you made and are still making well thought out choices.
“The rightwing noise machine has an impact on ALL citizens, no matter what their affiliation, and everyone’s been carefully taught that it’s all our fault. The Republics have been singing the tune that if you’re unemployed, it’s because you’re a shiftless, lazy-@**ed, drug addicted loser, expecting others to be your nanny. If your home foreclosed, it’s because you didn’t believe in Jesus or some other nonsense.”
If you go back and study the Great Depression, you’ll find the same phenonema — people believed during the first few years that their unemployment, their loss of houses and all, was all their fault, and if they just tried a bit harder, they would succeed. It was not until 1932, nearly three years into the mess, that movements based on any critique of the system began to catch on. It was in 1932 that the Bonus March took place, when the Farm Holiday movement emerged, and hundreds of other local and national “solutions” caught fire. I put the word “solutions” in quotes, largely because many were half-baked notions, but one has to understand that real system critiques don’t catch on, unless people are prepared to listen.
If you want to study seriously how “solution movements” relate to actual reform politics, read yourself into the “Technocracy” movement in the first two years of FDR’s administration. It was a totally half-baked idea, but several million people joined Technocracy Clubs, (It is all about expanding a consumer economy so as to support the poor elderly) and comprehend how the discourse laid the political groundwork for passage of the Social Security Act in 1935. Technocracy was as nuts as some of the stuff the Tea Party types advocate — but it jolted millions out of faith in the nostroms of the Hoover Era — or the Coolidge/Harding era. Only then can congress be shaken to take risks, and create new programs based on new paradigms.
We are still at the stage where folk expect the “market” to repair itself and then repair their personal situation. Too few people have yet begun to seriously and loudly question the Free Market economic Paradigm of the last several decades — too many people still have FAITH and TRUST. And Congress just reflects this reality. Neither Obama nor even the most progressive Congresscritter is going to openly question that essential Faith and Trust in “the Market” until that questioning comes up through a movement quite independent of our election centered parties.
We need to keep in mind the difference between a movement and Political Parties. A movement is temporary, it introduces a new paradigm, a new ideology if you will to the general political discourse — it is not so much centered on electing officials and maintaining Governing Powers, though it does intend to change the terms of governing, and frequently introduces new personalities into the governing classes. (Interest groups as well as elected officials). In the 1932 election, you won’t find the name, John L. Lewis, in the historical reportage, but by the end of 1934, and for the rest of the decade, Lewis is the king of movement leaders, forming the CIO, creating the groundwork for serious labor law, minimum wage and hour law, and much else. Workers came to believe in collective action and collective representation. We don’t see that kind of movement or personality yet — but I suspect the form of our current condition will be somewhat similar to the 30′s — in form only however, not so much in content.
Yeah it irks me to hear “housing prices need to recover.” No, going down IS recovering. To sanity.
I’ve said it for years, even before the housing bubble. We can’t have an economy built on consumption when there isn’t enough production. When the most “important” occupation involves moving vast sums of money around on spreadsheets, a nation is doomed. And so here we are.
Have Ensign and his abettor from Oklahoma been jailed yet?
vegasboomer’s comment brought to mind the yeast conundrum: undistilled alcohol products can never be more than around fourteen percent because that is the concentration which kills the yeasties. Yeasties pig out on all that abundant sugary goodness until they pass on and end up in that great filter press in the sky. I guess we’re all Yeasties.