Members of the cat food commission have consistently said that they will put a priority on spending cuts with their recommendations for deficit reduction. Co-Chair of the commission Erskine Bowles has, in fact, made a long-term spending target of 21% of GDP. The Center for Budget and Policy Priorities has written a report on this target, and finds it completely inadequate and bordering on numerology.
The average level of federal spending over the years since 1970 — about 21 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) — does not provide a reasonable benchmark for the level of spending that will be necessary or appropriate in the future [...] Such recommendations, however, fail to take account of fundamental changes in society and government — the aging of the population, substantial increases in health care costs, and new federal responsibilities in areas such as homeland security, education, and prescription drug coverage for seniors. These factors make the expenditure levels of several decades ago inapplicable today.
A careful analysis of these factors indicates that it will not be possible to maintain federal expenditures at their average level for decades back to 1970 without making draconian cuts in Social Security, Medicare, and an array of other vital federal activities.
Over the 40 years from 1970 through 2009, revenues averaged a little over 18 percent of GDP, and expenditures averaged nearly 21 percent of GDP. Those averages reflected a federal government with far less responsibility than today, and a country with a much smaller percentage of elderly people and considerably lower health care costs. Averages for federal spending and revenues in past periods consequently are not very relevant for discussions about how to reduce deficits to economically sustainable levels in the decades to come.
CBPP’s analysis boils down to “things cost money.” Now, if the government wants to give up on the surveillance state (they don’t) or the military-industrial complex (uh-uh), maybe they can get closer to that target. But with an aging population, higher health care costs, more federal responsibilities, and interest on the debt, a 21% target will basically wipe away a host of “unnecessary” domestic programs.
Matt Miller, who I normally wouldn’t quote, points out that federal spending under Ronald Reagan averaged 22 percent of GDP, above Bowles’ target (and insufficient to the task). In Reagan’s time, health care costs were only 10% of GDP; they’re 17% today. And anyone paying attention to this knows that Bowles would try to cram those “entitlement” programs back down through pure benefit cuts rather than, I don’t know, putting America on the same path as other countries in the world with a more efficient health care system.
If the target of the cat food commission is wrong, the results will be skewed. And it seems that they have been deliberately shrunk to allow commission members to take a knife to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Richard Trumka of the AFL-CIO, previewing the long fight ahead this year, made a great speech on Social Security this morning. I’ll put it on the flip.
Good morning. Working people around the country know the value of Social Security, and the Labor Movement has long been one of its staunchest supporters.
The American Federation of Labor was there in 1935, advocating for passage of the Social Security Act. In the decades following, the AFL-CIO played a lead role in designing the evolving Social Security system — supporting efforts to strengthen and broaden the program, and opposing weakening of its protections. During the last Administration, we were key to defeating privatization.In a misplaced effort to reduce the deficit, Social Security is under attack again –this time by proposals to raise the retirement age. And the right wing spin machine has convinced many Americans that Social Security won’t be there for them, anyway.
Working America, the community affiliate of the AFL-CIO, goes door to door every night talking to thousands of people a week. What they hear is that working families — including young people — are deeply worried about their retirement security. They are hearing that their Social Security benefits may be cut — and they don’t see how they can possibly make up the difference.
At a time when retirement is less secure for working Americans than it has been in many generations, only Social Security remains a defined and stable retirement benefit — not to mention the important family protections it provides when a worker is injured or dies. Unions know exactly what is happening to retirement income in this country because we see it at the bargaining table. Fewer traditional pensions. More riskier 401(k) plans — not a great benefit for workers with stagnant incomes who find it difficult or impossible to save. Now is the time, to strengthen, not weaken, Social Security.
Raising the eligibility age for a full Social Security benefit would be disastrous for millions of Americans. It is a benefit cut, plain and simple. It is a cut that is unnecessary and one that Americans can ill-afford.
For those born in 1960 or later, the retirement age for a full Social Security benefit is now 67, rather than 65. These younger workers have already been hit with a 13 percent benefit cut — and some now want to impose another cut on top of that.
A 62-year old worker who would receive $800 a month if the retirement age for a full benefit were 65, will get only $700 a month when that retirement age becomes 67.
Further increasing the retirement age for a full benefit to 69 (and some are even saying 70) means another 13% cut in benefits — for a total benefit cut of more than 25% for anyone who is now 50 or younger. That probably includes many of you in this room.An age increase a particular hardship for workers in physically demanding jobs who don’t qualify for disability — workers like my father who spent his life in the mines and couldn’t work another day by the time he qualified for Social Security — and those older workers who may no longer be able to find work due to age discrimination.
I know that America can do better than this. And that’s why the AFL-CIO, as part of a broad campaign, is mobilizing to protect Social Security. I look forward to working with our many coalition partners to create a secure retirement for our baby boomers, our children, and grandchildren.
Thank you.




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And I suppose doing away with the cap on income (about $106,000/year now, I think, so income above that isn’t taxed for Social Security) has not occurred to these catfood commissioners. Infuriating that we the “small people” subsidize the better-off in many ways and whether we like it or not. They get the breaks. We get the benefits they allow us to have.
The thing about this site is that you keep posting the same story over and over. Not meaning to nit pick, but just adding my two cents. For what it’s worth.
Yeah well as long as the deficit chickenhawks, the MSM and the right-wing noise machine continue to hammer the same bullshit mythology day after day after day it’s incumbent on sites like FDL to keep hitting back with the facts. Don’t for a minute assume that the point gets across because it’s said or published once. You can never let up against those assholes.
Given the number of stories in TradMedia from the WaPo0 and other outlets have been spouting how dire the situation is for Social Security, even though the evidence directly contradicts that, I think it probably does not hurt for folks to learn that the Cat Food commission is blowing a lot of BS.
Or do you want to see the US default in the Treasury Bonds that are just pieces of paper in a file cabinet and refuse to honor the commitment made when they increased FICA withholding back int he early ’80s after the Greenspan Commission? An increase that was put in place specifically to build up a Social Security surplus to cover the Boomer generation. A surplus that was then looted by tax cuts for the rich that they now don’t want to have to pay back.
So what would you have folks cover on this if not the actions of the Catfood/Sovereign Default Commission? Lindsay Lohan going to jail? Or maybe Chelsea Clinton’s wedding?
Quibbles and Bits… mmmm
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This is simple math we a shorting ourselves or being shorted 3% of needed revenues. Let’s see do you have more to give like your social security which will pay out in inflated dollars.
We were billed a trillion dollars for the war, at a 20% profit the richest, gluttonous, piggish 1% took home $200 billion at LEAST in war profits plus all the plundering and double dealing that goes with it. Anybody see a missing 9 billion in Iraq for instance ?
Bring back the 90% income tax rate on the wealthy. Come on it will feel good to bring those million dollar sports stars back to earth.
Shoot me if I’m wrong, but if the average tax rate is somewhere around 30%, and federal spending is only 21% of GDP, we shouldn’t have a deficit.
Oh wait, I forgot, we have so many tax loopholes for corporations that we’re not collecting at that rate! Only us little people have to pay our 30%. That explains the discrepancy.
Can’t get over how truly deeply shockingly gratuitously evil the CFC actually is. And I’m blown away by the depth of Democratic Party, and this Administration’s, complicity in it.
Nah, they’ll just strike until they’re able to get a new collective bargaining agreement, and we’ll have to pay twice the price for tickets. LeBron et. al. will make $60 million a year instead of $15 million.
Which is why some of us or someone better start pointing out that our bloated military industrial complex was given its structure in 1947 to address the Cold War, which ended 20 years ago. It is time for a rethinking of national security and the structures in government needed to support it. One would think that some on the right would be allied with us in our concern about the surveillance state but apparently team spirit comes before “conservative principles” or “libertarian principles”.
Sorry for quibbling. Sorry to tweak your interests. I said what I said, what I meant. Thanks for hearing me. I’ll keep my mouth shut. For a little while.
I, on the other hand, am not surprised at all. It is in fact COMPLETELY consistent with the anti-working class agenda of the millionaires who control the democraven party. Please, people, wake up: the democrats and Obama are our enemies, and we are theirs.
$15 million we take 90% to build the arenas, the high way system and public transportation, hospitals to be waiting if you get injured and the education system to have informed fans and the malls to sell your goods and he’s still left with $ 3,000,000. after tax *. I can get by on that.
* endorcements following not included.
Notice as an aside this is what prevented a 1950s housing “bubble”.
I know I said I’d keep my mouth shut, but I just have to say, my comment was way less divisive, less mean or yelling and shouting than many. And, usually, I’m a very nice person who many here enjoy chatting with, so I’m a little confused why you called that comment out.
It’s called “disagreeing with you.”
They didn’t say anything about you.
Wasn’t meaning to pick on you demi. But if we don’t keep hollering about this commission, how are we to stop them?
Yes, a lot of articles happen to be on the same topic. Just as there are a lot of articles on things like employment issues.
We have to keep raising the same issues in order to stop the same issues from hurting us.
10% of $15,000,000 = $3,000,000?
Did you run those numbers on Megan McArdle’s calculator?
Mr. Obama seems destined to get the recommendations he wants; let’s see what our courageous Congress does to implement them into law.
This is on par with the Tory Party’s David Cameron in the UK, demanding up to 40% cuts in government departments, calling them “efficiencies” when, in fact, they are an attempt at the wholesale and debate-less restructuring of government and its priorities, little of which was actually approved by a very close general election.
If Oama were to read the polls or ask us what 90% of Americans want, it woudl be less war, less surveillance, and stronger Social Security and Medicare. It would include other items he disregards – jobs, education and credible health care reform that focuses on expanding access to health care, not improving the bottom lines of health care insurers.
Mr. Obama seems determined to “make more efficient” our tattered social safety net, and equally determined to expand, to prop and pretend to legalize the legal, surveillance and warmaking excesses of the Bush administration. What’s wrong with that picture?
Sorry to take it personally. I was wrong.
It’ll prolly happen again in my life time. Thanks for the support.
Picking on me is not going to stop them. I don’t think.
Ironically, it is the CFC that is patronizing us by telling us what we want, in the face of polls that show them to be dead wrong. Then they come up with the 1950′s parental saw, issued just prior to spanking a child still young enough to be bent over the knee: “This will hurt me more than it hurts you.” Wasn’t true then, isn’t true now.
Obama is acting as if he had read a caricature of the evils of government bureaucrats and progressive government in a David Brooks column and is trying pattern his government after them.
No, but I was only pointing out why we need to keep seeing the same topic, no matter how much the refrain sounds the same.
Okay, I hear you. Nuff said.
That’s a duh
My mind was on the 20% overall tax.
Demi –
See, the problem is, the only alternative to repeated postings would be, ugh, organizing real demonstrations, you know, the kind that would piss off the Democratic Party. Heaven forbid that progressives and folks who want to protect SS and Medicare should undertake, you know, actual street protests. Why, we’d be accused of being no better than tea partiers! And the organizers would just get cut off at the knees when it comes to those coveted invitations to events. Talk about saving SS at Netroots? You’re a hero. Organize a “milion man march” on DC to save SS, you’re a pariah.
If dday writes it, I’ll read it and this story needs to be pounded into the heads of everyone so they will understand they are about to get screwed.
Oh, I understand how screwed we are. My head hurts from being pounded. Geez Louise. Take the message outside of this venue if you want people to be educated. People here get it, don’t they?
Relax, they didn’t call you an Obama-bot or anything.
Social Security does get a lot of front page space here. It also just got some air play via an email from Move On. Counteracting the deficit peacocks is important, and FDL is doing its part.
Organizing a “trick or treat” event against bio-exclusives and having grass roots and medical students show up at Congressional offices and the Capital?
Check this out:
What Orszag took from Congress
Unitary executive, indeed!
I have to point out to you that in… 2006 or 2007, Jane Hamsher and FDL were critical in organizing the purchases of copies of “Crashing the Gates“, plus a whole bunch of rubber stamps, and then organizing the purchase and delivery to every single one of the US Congressional members.
The FDLers and Netrooters involved in the purchase and delivery of all those books and rubber stamps appeared to be phenomenally well-organized, smart, courteous, and competent. They may not have led a ‘march’ on DC, but they definitely ‘sent a message to D.C.’ in a witty, informative, creative fashion.
‘Marches’ would be fine if they actually achieved reasonable outcomes. I don’t see that they accomplish all that much, when all is said and done. If you want decent legislation, you have to chase down the devil — who is almost always lurking in bogus budget numbers, a crapola pseudo-scientific ‘report’, or an obscure line of legislative language.
In other words, the Cat Food Commission has the easier task: produce anxiety, cook up some numbers that ‘appear to be’ legitimate, and talk in woeful, Very Serious Sober Tones.
It’s no small thing to go up against the CFC.
Nevertheless, informed citizens, supplied with accurate, relevant information that enables them to advocate for their interests strikes me as the better route.
No doubt Pete Peterson and his ilk would love it if we all marched. Then they could really dismiss us as ‘DFH.’ Which, if you actually look at the data of who reads and comments on the left, is not an accurate snapshot. (Particularly around FDL and some other blogs, where it’s quite apparent that people bring broad experience, focus, and curiosity to quite serious topics.)
But from the CFC (with Wall Street hiding behind the curtain) is a huge drumbeat about SS ‘going broke’. My personal view is that it’s one of the last big honeypots for global finance to try and make ‘fees’ from, and/or that some big players are hedging bets on the outcome of the Cat Food Commission and are playing for billions.
Meanwhile, the arrogance of these Cat Food Commissioners, who never dealt with our addiction to oil while they held public office, who never addressed a failing health care system despite 20+ years of growing evidence that it was a mess, and who never addressed the grim economic implications of the extraordinary growth of ‘the finance sector’ as a percentage of GDP, while manufacturing declined, should be shunned by sensible people.
They are blinded by 1980′s-era ideology that they are using to justify their lust for the Big SS Honeypot. They’re dumber than field mice when it comes to rethinking our economic systems — which is what really needs to happen moving forward.
However, that would make their lil’ ol’ heads essplode, so they’re not equipped to take on that challenge. Their economic assumptions are outdated, and their analyses are flawed. But they’ll be the last people on the planet to recognize that sad truth.
They failed in reorienting national policies on energy, transportation, finance, industrial productivity, public health, and environmental protection.
Their ‘score card’ legislatively?
Fail. Fail. Fail. Fail. Fail. and Fail.
They don’t have any other tricks in their pocket.
They could not reengineer American productivity, or move us to a greener economy, or restrict the lunacy of paying billions to Wall Street if their lives depended on it.
They are outdated.
So of course they’re trying to weasel into everyone’s SS.
It’s all these dumbasses know how to do.
They are not capable of the real heavy lifting that needs to happen to make a more sustainable, sane economy.
But it is important to expose just how economically outdated their assumptions are — over, and over, and over.
BTW: D-Day — Naked Capitalism has had some awesome posts in recent months on economic indicators that show there’s no need for all the CFC hullaballoo. (Sorry, I don’t have handy links or references.)
But enough about me! Let’s talk about you – what do you think of my hair?
Obama is delivering for his bosses on Wall st. that’s for sure. He has to know if he keeps it up he’s for a one termer. I’m starting think he’s a “Manchurian candidate” and never expected a second term. He’ s been sent in as a spoiler to finish off whats left of the New Deal reforms for the Oligarchs and his reward will be a solid position for life in one of the big Corps. He’ll then disappear just like Condi Rice has.
We’re not going to get anywhere until someone with balls — like Grayson — states that s/he will hold Obama directly responsible for any cuts in SS and begins to use the I-word: Impeachment. IMHO, cutting SS using the bogus numbers pointed out above — while continuing to bail out banks, tripling down in Afghanistan, and extending tax cuts — calls for impeachment to be put on the table.
I voted for this clown but enough is enough.
I think Obama was damned if he did, and damned if he didn’t.
The bigger task is to expose the CFC claims as fraudulent.
It is my understanding that Mr. Obama is a very big fan of David Brooks.
Not sure I get your point but NO ONE who voted for him demanded that he create a “bipartisan” commission — full of folks who want to eliminate entitlements — to cut SS.
I agree. For heavens sake, it was Mr. Obama created the cat food commission back around February by executive order after Congress voted down such a commission. Why did he do that? Why was the commission necessary? Mr. Obama appointed every one of those ignorant, conservative anti-social security, etc. commissioners. Of course he is responsible for the harm that they will do. He knows what he did. The tragic thing is that so many liberal and progressive Democrats are conveniently forgetting to point this out. Or they attack anyone who does point out the obvious. Are they cowards? Obama should be held accountable for this and everything else that he has done or refused to do.
But his smile is SO purty!
If he hadn’t allowed the CFC, he’d have been pilloried by the Pete Peterson types.
But I agree with you; agreeing to hold it in this way does seem like a self-inflicted wound.
But the CFC exists.
Personally, I say we all enjoy the hell out of mocking and ridiculing their dumb assumptions and their failure to deal with REAL problems.
These guys always go after the low hanging fruit, and the SS money is their idea of ‘low hanging fruit’. They don’t have the fortitude to do the more fundamental economic rethinking and retooling. And IMVHO, this is a chance to point that out over, and over, and over, and over….
These guys do 1982 pretty well. But 2020, not so much.
You got that right and as he tucks those sweet young girls of his to bed some asshole , under obama’s orders, pulls the video triggger and offs another family. Sleep tight my darling young ones.
Thanks for FUCKING NOTHING Mr. obama
If he hadn’t allowed the CFC, he’d have been pilloried by the Pete Peterson types.
Not sure if I understand you. Pete Peterson, Bob Rubin and others like them were early supporters of Obama and were people that he respected and still respects. Larry Summers and Tim Geithner also fall into this general category. I know much less than most who comment here, so please point out where I am mistaken. Also, Obama did not allow the CFC. After Congress voted down such a commission, Obama created his own by executive order and appointed the members himself.
Ah yes. A smile I can believe in. Not!
You mean they would have said mean things about the President! OMFG! No President, especially such a wonderful annointed beautific one as Obama should have to endure criticism. It’s praise and praise only.
Gimme a fuckin’ break.
As others here did, Obama appointed this commission and stacked it with SS rapists because that’s the outcome he and his moneybags bosses want.
Yes, we have to do the other things you’re talking about but we can’t stop with them. That’s the problem; substituting on-line actions (petitions, emails, calls to reps) for old fashioned physical presence. I’ve been told that personal letters carry more weight with politicians than emails. Why? Because emails are easy, whereas to write a letter you have to be motivated to write it, put it an envelope and address the envelope, attach a stamp, etc. If that’s true, the politicians have to give even more value to the extra effort it takes to organize and attend a big rally.
On the subject of the effectiveness of demonstrations: Don’t know how old you are, but marches have been effective when big enough and carried out for long enough in support of the proper causes. Seesm to me MLK uses marches as a big leverage tool. Something about the Vietnam War eventually ending because of pressure from demonstrations. More recently, seems that everybody paid big attention to all those immigration reform rallies a few years ago.
I submit that if politicians get scared shitless by a couple of hundred angry folks at a town hall, then the sight of a million or so besieging capitol hill will have an effect. As will thousands outside their local district offices and in front of their homes.
I also disagree that marchers today would be characterized as DFH’s. Why? Many anti-Vietnam war marchers did look like hippies, with beards, long hair, peace symbols, American flag jeans, and Grateful Dead t-shirts. That was then, this is now. Most marchers today would tend to be 40+, probably even 50+ years old, well dreassed, or at least cleanly dressed, bathed and groomed. (In short, they’d probably look a lot like tea partiers without the racist signs and dumb-ass teabags hanging of their hats.) And any young people that joined in would also not appear very hippie-ish. Tattooed maybe, hippie-ish, no.
Sadly, that would explain a lot of things.